Tesco and sat nav

chippy:
Stan said, "also, you get a risk assement for each store, plus a route, you can`t go wrong really. " What is this risk assessment? :unamused: How do they give you the route? What if you go off route?

Thats a good question. A lot of the ā€˜routes’ they give will not actually apply when you come to do them. They will give you maybe three drops (for example) and you’ll approach every drop from the south when the map shows coming from the north !!

Wheel Nut:
How does a risk assessment work…There may be a car parked awkwardly or some pallets in a slightly different place since the assessment was done…How about the skip driver who doesnt put the skip back in exactly the same place? how about the driver who turns up in the LHD truck?

That’s about it, matey …and if a horse were designed by a committee it’d turn out looking like a camel, etc.

Gotta laugh, eh…cos it’s all a game intended to pay the mortgage…which’ll pay for the Care Home at the end of it all.

This all seems a bit weird to me. They give you a route on a sheet of paper. So maybe you have to stop and look at the paper or even worse read it while you drive. Then you make a risk assessment of the drop. You then inform Tesco that your’e not happy with the situation. The line manager tells you to do what you can. You then either run someone over, or smash into something…

the company are then in a serious breach of H&S regulations, being that is you who did the risk assessment and you have quite clearly conformed with the policy. The line manager and all others involved with the audit trail will then be in deep ā– ā– ā– ā–  . The floodgates will then open… If the policy is to consider the H&S implications of a reverse or otherwise then to refuse due to the said compliance with the company policy, I would say you can refuse to do anything that breaches that clause, written statement or other such agreement

Tesco could find themselves in big trouble by saying one thing then ignoring their own H&S guidelines.

which agency was that chippy? ADR Network?
I’ve just spent last 4 months in Tesco Hinckley, they say in no uncertain terms is anyone to use satnav but they stick em in the screens as soon as theyre out the gate. It’s the foreigners in there that you see using em. Probably can’t read the risk assessments anyway!
The directions on the RAs are generally ok but some of them miss out some vital junctions/turnings etc and then the fun begins. Watch out for the one for Hucknall it actually directs you to tNott’m Top Valley store down the road instead. Agency drivers keep falling foul of that one but they don’t bother to change it on the R.A/directions. :unamused: :imp:

As I said earlier, THE RISK IS ALL YOURS :open_mouth:

But, if you can do the B-O-T store, in 4 shunts, with 13.6m you can get in anywhere :laughing:

ā€œYOU MADE THAT LOOK EASYā€ was the comment I got from the lad on the back door, BUT, I did listen to his advice before attempting the manoeuvre :wink:

Who ever designed that back door layout needs chucking in the river next door :unamused:

its about time direction sheets and RA
stated the sat nav setting to get you to the back door
or even gave the correct address

or these places should turn away drivers who do not have the tools for the job
vis a vis Truckers Atlas and a box full of maps

I am possibly going to work at Tesco ( Fradley ) for a few days a week mainly weekends.I am just trying to find out information good or bad from those that know,meaning you lot the ones on the front line so to speak.

Is Tesco fradley easy work?

How many drops per day ( I have been told 2)

After the first drop,no empties will be put on. Empties will only be put on when the trailer is empty. (H&S regulations)

How long are the shifts

And last but not least I smoke.

Being one who is involved with H&S at work with regards to drivers. Tesco may get shot of me very quickly. Or give me a job :wink:

One other thing . It appears VOSA are keeping a close watch on the Tesco operation, because of it’s size and use of Polish ect drivers.

Regards chip

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I’ve just spent last 4 months in Tesco Hinckley, they say in no uncertain terms is anyone to use satnav but they stick em in the screens as soon as theyre out the gate. It’s the foreigners in there that you see using em. Probably can’t read the risk assessments anyway

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Yea Bloody jonny foreigner it’s always their fault…You’ll more than likely find most ā€˜migrant workers’ speak far better English than most of the knuckle dragging muppets you see around these days, not that I’m saying you are like this , so please don’t take offence. But sometimes we(The British Truck driver) don’t do ourselves any favours…

Deepinvet:
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I’ve just spent last 4 months in Tesco Hinckley, they say in no uncertain terms is anyone to use satnav but they stick em in the screens as soon as theyre out the gate. It’s the foreigners in there that you see using em. Probably can’t read the risk assessments anyway

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Yea Bloody jonny foreigner it’s always their fault…You’ll more than likely find most ā€˜migrant workers’ speak far better English than most of the knuckle dragging muppets you see around these days, not that I’m saying you are like this , so please don’t take offence. But sometimes we(The British Truck driver) don’t do ourselves any favours…

Spot on, too many D.A.M.T. around, ruining it for all the others :blush: :blush:

Deepinvet:
ā€˜ā€¦But sometimes we (The British Truck driver) don’t do ourselves any favours…’

Agreed…although I’ll stress only sometimes - cos at other times we are priceless…

chippy:
I am possibly going to work at Tesco ( Fradley ) for a few days a week mainly weekends.I am just trying to find out information good or bad from those that know,meaning you lot the ones on the front line so to speak.

Is Tesco fradley easy work?

How many drops per day ( I have been told 2)

After the first drop,no empties will be put on. Empties will only be put on when the trailer is empty. (H&S regulations)

How long are the shifts

And last but not least I smoke.

Being one who is involved with H&S at work with regards to drivers. Tesco may get shot of me very quickly. Or give me a job :wink:

One other thing . It appears VOSA are keeping a close watch on the Tesco operation, because of it’s size and use of Polish ect drivers.

Regards chip

IMHO, youre wasting your time, especially if you start spouting the H+S crap, they are bigger than you, they have more H+S freaks than most, and, they dont like it if you try to get smart with them :unamused:

Your initial queries, regarding workload ect, sounds like you want the easy life, Tesco is easy, but, don`t take the urine, It will ā– ā– ā– ā–  it up for the ones who get on with the job.

TBF, I have`nt seen that many poles driving, there are millions working inside though.

Also, if you get the start, beware of the polish packing, they booby trap the cages, I`m not sure whether its deliberate, but its expensive for Tesco with all the breakages :open_mouth: :open_mouth: :open_mouth:

They are paronoid about VOSA, so, the kit is all pretty well looked after IMO.

And DO NOT forget to weigh out, as your paid by the hour, just join the queue :laughing: :laughing:

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Yea Bloody jonny foreigner it’s always their fault…You’ll more than likely find most ā€˜migrant workers’ speak far better English than most of the knuckle dragging muppets you see around these days, not that I’m saying you are like this , so please don’t take offence. But sometimes we(The British Truck driver) don’t do ourselves any favours…
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Sorry, I just speak as I find.
My experience of johnny foreigner (the trucker) leaves alot to be desired.
Until I’m proven otherwise…

Back to chippy’s question… At Fradley you may get one ā€œlong runā€ E.g skegness/boston split load. They go all the way up the east coast as far as about scarborough.

A ā€œshort oneā€ may be something like a worcester or norhtampton and then you come back and do another similar run.

Shift lengths vary, Depends on what you get and what you encounter at the store. If you get to a store and there’s one or two in front you can be in for a long wait. I read loads of books in my time at tesco.

When trailer is empty backload with silver cages, back to Fradley, stick it on a bay.

Easy life? yep. But why not if you can get it! Why break your balls.

There is no pressure, no-one on your back, as long as you can give a good reason as to why you were five hours at cov arena they’re happy.

However, keep your head down just get on with it don’t antagonise them with H/S etc etc. Any agency driver deemed to be awkward or a thorn in their arris is soon out the door never to return. Like anywhere else I suppose.

Thanks for that Mig 69 and no I won’t stick my oar in.
Is 8 hours the usual guaranteed minimum payment by agencies?. Your 45 minute break is deducted so it seems. So say 9 hours -45 mins brake equals 8h 15 mins you’re paid for. I thought 9 hours was the minimum on the agency.

As you can tell I have not done any of this for ages.

regards

chippy:
Is 8 hours the usual guaranteed minimum payment by agencies?. Your 45 minute break is deducted so it seems. So say 9 hours -45 mins brake equals 8h 15 mins you’re paid for. I thought 9 hours was the minimum on the agency.

8 hours WAS the usual guaranteed minimum. I think it may of been Carl who worked out of Tescos at Magor (?) who recently said they have now only been guaranteed 6 hours? At Tescos at Middlewich they said whatever suited them. In practice i got paid a guaranteed minimum of 8 hours. However when i returned after 9 hours they insisted i go out on another run taking me to near or just on 15 hours, when i questioned this they told me i was booked for a minimum of 11 hours work. Of course i could refuse but that would of meant no more work for me at the depot. I also (i posted it here before) know where they have left a day man with no night out kit at Lymm services and would not send anyone out to return him to base to collect his car and go home. Every one whinged about Tescos drivers doing short hours and ā€˜having it easy’, now there’s lots of Stobarts drivers doing the work, sleeping with their trailers in laybys of a day and asking people if they can jump the queue as they are going to run out of hours soon and they only have x amount of pallets on !!!
Tescos, great for shopping, ā– ā– ā– ā–  to work for !!!

Mike-C:

chippy:
Is 8 hours the usual guaranteed minimum payment by agencies?. Your 45 minute break is deducted so it seems. So say 9 hours -45 mins brake equals 8h 15 mins you’re paid for. I thought 9 hours was the minimum on the agency.

8 hours WAS the usual guaranteed minimum. I think it may of been Carl who worked out of Tescos at Magor (?) who recently said they have now only been guaranteed 6 hours? At Tescos at Middlewich they said whatever suited them. In practice i got paid a guaranteed minimum of 8 hours. However when i returned after 9 hours they insisted i go out on another run taking me to near or just on 15 hours, when i questioned this they told me i was booked for a minimum of 11 hours work. Of course i could refuse but that would of meant no more work for me at the depot. I also (i posted it here before) know where they have left a day man with no night out kit at Lymm services and would not send anyone out to return him to base to collect his car and go home. Every one whinged about Tescos drivers doing short hours and ā€˜having it easy’, now there’s lots of Stobarts drivers doing the work, sleeping with their trailers in laybys of a day and asking people if they can jump the queue as they are going to run out of hours soon and they only have x amount of pallets on !!!
Tescos, great for shopping, [zb] to work for !!!

I don’t like queue jumpers. Stobart will have to wait his turn.

10 hours will do me. I know people will come back for more. Me I’m sensible.
I would presume that doing 15 hours may put you in a position depending on circumstance of having a night out. What would be the response from Tesco should this occasion arise? And is there a night heater :bulb:

As for working for Tesco" Every penny helps us to make a huge profit" I technically won’t be working for them… :question:

Last time I went to drop at tesco 15 years ago in Bristol I waited 15 hours to get unloaded. What a night that was :wink: Some owner drivers had been there for days. I do hope things have improved

Don’t know about Tesco’s but Somerfields in East Kilbride had a minimum 6 hours. I was there with an agency for a few months, then it got a bit quieter and ending up doing a run to Pitervie to take over ambient stuff, picking up a fridge taking it back to East Kilbride then having to sit about till 6 hours where up then getting told to go home, needless to say i left.

I do Sainbury’s East Kilbride on off, its minimum 8 hours like most other agency jobs.

Somerfields i did nightshift, was usually 10-12 hours, mostly because we did a short trunk to Pitervie in Fife then deliver a frozen for them usually south like ā– ā– ā– ā– ā– ā– ā–  or the Borders by the time you got back was 10 hours. Occasionally would get a short frozen delivery like Glasgow, then would go back after about 7 hours, in Somerfields you were finished unless you asked for another run.

Sainsbury’s after 8 hours, if they have another run for you they will ask you if you want it otherwise your free to go. When i was doing agency full time i’d try do 15 hour shift, because i’d rather work Sunday, Monday, Tuesday nightshifts and try and get over 40 hours in three days then call it quits for the week, have some decent free time.

They Tesco’s, Waitrose, Morrisons always give you a map anyway so why would you need a satnav? unless of course you think that you know more than the 500 drivers that have been to the store before you :exclamation:

I’ve worked at Tesco Fradly, and every map/set of directions i’ve had issued has had errors.

Mixermerc:
I’ve worked at Tesco Fradly, and every map/set of directions i’ve had issued has had errors.

It was similar out of Kiln Farm (now closed) & Fenny Lock because as ā€˜line drawings’ they often lacked scale & relational detail regarding anything that wasn’t Big ā€˜T’.

However, their RA’s & yard maps were OK for being reasonable with good accuracy & scale - a first?
Maybe it’s in hand, but maps would improve if they were Ordnace Survey or Multimap…though they still beat a ā– ā– ā– -packet jobby.

Thats what I mean . If the maps have errors ect , whats the use in giving you them. You would of thought that someone with Tesco’s clout could organise this. So according to Tesco the sat nav could send you onto a housing estate. Then what about the maps misleading information?. Would this not cause similar problems?

Think I will use the sat nav and forget the drawings until I can see the store. :bulb: