Hi can I ask u a question
A debate with someone
On time directive
I need a break at least 15 minutes before 6 hours
30 mins break between 6 and 9 hours and after 9 hours you need to have had a 45min break to meet time directive
And if 4.5 hours after driving needs a straight 45 mins held to meet driving
So I start at
7am other work(doing checks)
7.15 driving
8am other work
9am driving
10am other work
10.45 driving
11am other work
11.30 driving
12 other work
Break 15 mins to meet time directive 5 hours worked
Driving is just 2.hours and 30 mins
yes as you had 15 minutes before 1pm which is your 6 hours then gives you until 4pm before needing 30 minutes break. that’s the way I do it and don’t get infringements.
Bigbb09:
What I can’t understand is you need a 15 min break first and 15 or 30 mins later
But if you done 30 mins and 15mins later is a infringement
The simple reason is that under Drivers Hours rules (nothing to do with Working Time Directive) that’s the only way a 45 minute break can be split.
It used to be allowable to split a 45 minute break any way you liked (even splitting it into three 15 minute breaks) but that changed a decade or so ago. The reasoning behind the change was that it was possible under the old rule to start a shift, drive across the yard for a minute, book a 30 minute break while gassing/having a coffee and then set off for a 9 hour drive with only a further 15 minute break at halfway.
Bigbb09:
Hi can I ask u a question
A debate with someone
On time directive
I need a break at least 15 minutes before 6 hours 30 mins break between 6 and 9 hours and after 9 hours you need to have had a 45min break to meet time directive
And if 4.5 hours after driving needs a straight 45 mins held to meet driving
So I start at
7am other work(doing checks)
7.15 driving
8am other work
9am driving
10am other work
10.45 driving
11am other work
11.30 driving
12 other work
Break 15 mins to meet time directive 5 hours worked
Driving is just 2.hours and 30 mins
1pm driving
2pm other work
2.30 30 mins break
Is this correct without infringements
30 mins break between 6 and 9 hours = no such rule applies if doing over 9 hours work in a shift
your second break needs to be taken as 30 mins if the driving time gets to a total 4.5 hours but if 6.15pm comes first then 15 mins break is needed for WTD - but you might as well make that a 30 break to cover WTD for the whole shift and to reset the driving time
