Hi guys
I recently ended my agreement with a well known company which I used to pull for them. We was agreed on payment of 1.60ppm all miles paid empty or loaded, but when I got the rate confirmation …surprise!
According with them I was 120 mile less in just a week work, which is taking me on the price of 1.40ppm. Their word was, as they are using google and the AutoRoute for the mileage planning and thats why are the missing miles , and they cannot pay the difference 
( so working as a dedicated subcontractor like they said, but only you have to run your truck by the google maps )
Questions for you guys as I am new in the business. If you are paid ppm, are you paid on tacho miles basis or from google?
Have I done good refusing to work for them anymore or I should continue to work by the Google miles and losing money every time which for me to be honest looks like suicide?
And last question, if anyone from here know any good company to sub for in Birmingham area or in West Midlands, just pm me and I will appreciate? 
Thank you.
Erm…you are a business and as such should be setting your own rates per mile. You get no medals in this game for being cheap and cheap is what you are. How you make a profit is anybody’s guess. Tell THEM what you charge and how it is calculated, don’t let them dictate to you.
Their software or google will calculate the route as if you were in a car, not a high lorry where there may be low bridges or weight restrictions en route.
Ask yourself…who is the boss?
Truckbling that is not how it is in real life, if you are in that position good luck to you. In my experience 99.9% of the time I work for rate quoted by the customer I have friends in bulk tipper, container and traction only, they are all the same.
The way to deal with those calculating with google/autoroute is to ask for rate before each mission, the except or decline.
Tarmac Duck is correct in that subbie/traction rates are dictated but you have the option to bounce a bum deal.
i had a ‘discussion’ with a planner over a rate for a job, they had massively underpaid for the distance
when i queried it, they said that it was the AA miles, so, i then asked him which route the AA miles had taken him
he told me the route, so, i duly informed him of weight restrictions and low bridges along that route, and the following 5 alternatives he came up with
in the end, the AA route actually matched the route i had taken to within 1 mile, and, yes, i did get the extra owed
if they tell you that is the route, ask them which way it sends you, then query it due to ‘obstructions’
Tarmac duck:
Truckbling that is not how it is in real life, if you are in that position good luck to you. In my experience 99.9% of the time I work for rate quoted by the customer I have friends in bulk tipper, container and traction only, they are all the same.
Exactly !!
As a subbie you will normally be given a rate which you can either accept or decline as you are your own boss.
When quoting for work the contractor either accepts or declines, either way it is the contractor who ultimately decides what they will pay, obviously in either case some negotiations may be involved.
The company I work for I cannot fault there route mileages there nearly always within a couple of miles . The only jobs we do that go via woodhead I tell them and im paid via the m62
When you work for said company did you get the miles in and wot did you earn , or should I say wot you expecting to earn cause you will find it very hard to get Good rates , they all pay the same .
Tarmac duck:
Truckbling that is not how it is in real life, if you are in that position good luck to you. In my experience 99.9% of the time I work for rate quoted by the customer I have friends in bulk tipper, container and traction only, they are all the same.
Double yes on that one !, If you are subbing then its the rate that the customer quotes Im afraid… No easy money to be had in this game.
When I was od 5 yrs ago,I was paid on micro soft auto route,a lot of the time the confermation milage was not too far off my tacho milage but if there was a big difference we’d have a chat and they were ok and meet me in the middle
Some forwarders make me think, that they buy their maps from airlines.
wasiuu:
Some forwarders make me think, that they buy their maps from airlines.
I know some planners that use the same supplier