So I might be doing european work shortly, but this ‘ferry tacho rest’ shinnanagans is freaking me out, I thought I just switched the tacho to POA during the crossing, but the gaffa is now saying there is a ferry mode, I need to take 11hrs rest after the ferry, can drive an hour before/after crossing, bla bla bla.
Can some one please just give me the newbie stupid version plz.
I would be coming from glasgow to hull.
For a start, you should have access to a bunk or couchette for the crossing. So Dover - Calais doesn’t count.
I’m a bit confused as to why you’d use POA on a ferry crossing at all.
Even if it’s only a couple of hours, you are not working, you’re sitting in a cafe with a coffee/tea or whatever, resting. I’d have thought you’d have it on rest/break.
Doing a ferry movement is pretty straight forward to be honest.
You drive to the port and arrive some time before boarding time. The time on board might be less than 9 hours.
When you park up, you sign off end of shift country and put it on break.
Some time later you get called forward to board, scroll through the options to ferry/train movement and click on it.
Drive onto the ferry, put it back on break.
After the crossing, check your tacho. If you’ve had 9 hours static on the ferry you’re good, sign on with start country and go.
If not, scroll down and click on ferry movement again, drive off the ferry, find somewhere to park up, get the last bit of an 11 hour rest. Sign on start of shift country and go.
The total driving time allowed, counting both movements, is 1 hour.
I’d recommend you find where ferry/train movement is in the options before you need to, so it’s easy to find if you have to do it quick.
It isn’t a ‘mode’ as such. All you have done is put a flag on your tacho to show that this movement is for the purpose of boarding a ferry.
Take a print out, you’ll see the little symbol at the time you clicked on it.
But you’re doing a ferry crossing from Hull, to Zeebrugge or Europoort?
Whichever, you’re on the ferry for well over 11 hours, so you won’t need any of this anyway. Just drive onto the ferry at Hull, sign off with finish country, put it on break, go have a beer or two.
In the morning, unless you’re in pole position, you’ll have plenty of time to get to your wagon, sign on with start country leaving it on break. Drive off and go wherever you’re going.
I’ll be on the Zeeby ferry tomorrow night.
Simon:
For a start, you should have access to a bunk or couchette for the crossing. So Dover - Calais doesn’t count.
I’m a bit confused as to why you’d use POA on a ferry crossing at all.
Even if it’s only a couple of hours, you are not working, you’re sitting in a cafe with a coffee/tea or whatever, resting. I’d have thought you’d have it on rest/break.Doing a ferry movement is pretty straight forward to be honest.
You drive to the port and arrive some time before boarding time. The time on board might be less than 9 hours.
When you park up, you sign off end of shift country and put it on break.
Some time later you get called forward to board, scroll through the options to ferry/train movement and click on it.
Drive onto the ferry, put it back on break.
After the crossing, check your tacho. If you’ve had 9 hours static on the ferry you’re good, sign on with start country and go.
If not, scroll down and click on ferry movement again, drive off the ferry, find somewhere to park up, get the last bit of an 11 hour rest. Sign on start of shift country and go.
The total driving time allowed, counting both movements, is 1 hour.I’d recommend you find where ferry/train movement is in the options before you need to, so it’s easy to find if you have to do it quick.
It isn’t a ‘mode’ as such. All you have done is put a flag on your tacho to show that this movement is for the purpose of boarding a ferry.
Take a print out, you’ll see the little symbol at the time you clicked on it.But you’re doing a ferry crossing from Hull, to Zeebrugge or Europoort?
Whichever, you’re on the ferry for well over 11 hours, so you won’t need any of this anyway. Just drive onto the ferry at Hull, sign off with finish country, put it on break, go have a beer or two.
In the morning, unless you’re in pole position, you’ll have plenty of time to get to your wagon, sign on with start country leaving it on break. Drive off and go wherever you’re going.
I’ll be on the Zeeby ferry tomorrow night.
Everything you said makes complete and utter…sence, thanks
I just need to find the ferry option.
Thanks again.
Stoneridge Tacho? To find Ferry/Train movement click on “OK” Scroll down to find it and press “OK” again. It should now be registered.
se5000.com/simulator/defaul … drawal=2h&
The simulator shows how to get to the Ferry mode, but doesn`t show the “countdown” of available time.
gov.uk/guidance/drivers-hou … vers-hours
“Journeys involving ferry or train transport
Where a driver accompanies a vehicle that is being transported by ferry or train, the daily rest requirements are more flexible.
A regular daily rest period, that is one of 11 hours duration or 12 hours if split, may be interrupted no more than twice, but the total interruption must not exceed 1 hour in total. This allows for a vehicle to be driven on to a ferry and off again at the end of the crossing. Where the rest period is interrupted in this way, the total accumulated rest period must still be at least 11 hours or 12 hours if split. A bunk or couchette must be available during the rest period.
Drivers who are engaged on multi-manning can also interrupt a rest period however they may only do so where the rest period in the 30 hour spreadover is a regular daily rest of at least 11 hours or 12 hours if it is a split daily rest.
Any rest that is interrupted must be completed within the 24 hour period (if single manned) or within the 30 hours period (if multi-manned). The 24 or 30 hour period commences at the point of starting duty following the end of a daily or weekly rest period.
It is also permitted to have one of the interruption periods falling in the 3 hour part of the split rest period and one interruption period falling in the 9 hour part of the split rest period or for both parts of the interruption period to fall within the 3 hour part of the split daily rest.”
Notes: from previous posts on the subject,
Assuming single crewed and not split-rest: Keep your spreadover (start of shift, to end of shift) below 12hrs. If not you won`t have a full 1 hr possible movement available.
Remember to pay-back any of your rest period spent on the movement.
Which routes are you likely to use?
Daresay someone will give you a few more hints specific to the times you are likely to encounter. Some ferry crossings can burn up your hours movement with stop/start shunting in queues. And parking isnt always readily available to all ports.
Once you`ve done it a couple of times it should be easy enough.
Edited to add links
Tonymcg:
So I might be doing european work shortly, but this ‘ferry tacho rest’ shinnanagans is freaking me out, I thought I just switched the tacho to POA during the crossing, but the gaffa is now saying there is a ferry mode, I need to take 11hrs rest after the ferry, can drive an hour before/after crossing, bla bla bla.Can some one please just give me the newbie stupid version plz.
I would be coming from glasgow to hull.
If you are shipping Hull you wont need Ferry Mode unless you are on the boat every day
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deanbrownn:
Simon:
For a start, you should have access to a bunk or couchette for the crossing. So Dover - Calais doesn’t count.
I’m a bit confused as to why you’d use POA on a ferry crossing at all.
Even if it’s only a couple of hours, you are not working, you’re sitting in a cafe with a coffee/tea or whatever, resting. I’d have thought you’d have it on rest/break.Doing a ferry movement is pretty straight forward to be honest.
You drive to the port and arrive some time before boarding time. The time on board might be less than 9 hours.
When you park up, you sign off end of shift country and put it on break.
Some time later you get called forward to board, scroll through the options to ferry/train movement and click on it.
Drive onto the ferry, put it back on break.
After the crossing, check your tacho. If you’ve had 9 hours static on the ferry you’re good, sign on with start country and go.
If not, scroll down and click on ferry movement again, drive off the ferry, find somewhere to park up, get the last bit of an 11 hour rest. Sign on start of shift country and go.
The total driving time allowed, counting both movements, is 1 hour.I’d recommend you find where ferry/train movement is in the options before you need to, so it’s easy to find if you have to do it quick.
It isn’t a ‘mode’ as such. All you have done is put a flag on your tacho to show that this movement is for the purpose of boarding a ferry.
Take a print out, you’ll see the little symbol at the time you clicked on it.But you’re doing a ferry crossing from Hull, to Zeebrugge or Europoort?
Whichever, you’re on the ferry for well over 11 hours, so you won’t need any of this anyway. Just drive onto the ferry at Hull, sign off with finish country, put it on break, go have a beer or two.
In the morning, unless you’re in pole position, you’ll have plenty of time to get to your wagon, sign on with start country leaving it on break. Drive off and go wherever you’re going.
I’ll be on the Zeeby ferry tomorrow night.Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
do you have to leave card in or out during ferry
IN , otherwise how will it record your entries ?