Supermarkets

UK PROFESSIONAL DRIVERS FORUMS THE UK PROFESSIONAL DRIVERS FORUM (INTERACTIVE)
61

yourhavingalarf:

Juddian:
Winseer old mate, give it up there’s no arguing with the collective borg, they are convinced they are right on and anyone who has different thought of their own has to be shouted down, its where were are in the present world.

Just go and do your own thing mate, same as i do.

Shouted you down?..

Quite the opposite. I’ve asked you twice in recent posts to explain where we ‘the collective Borg’ are going wrong and supply the answers.

Twice, you’ve refused to do so.

Likewise, you’re convinced you’re right. That makes you a tad hypocritcal.

People on that side of the debate always get a tizzy and claim their being shouted down, in this instance clearly missing that on a forum you can’t exactly shout.

62

switchlogic:

Winseer:
They are still finding time to bust this driver who run someone over this morning, I might add… Shame that they cannot actually save some lives whilst going about their daily business though. :frowning:
Man dies after being hit by lorry on A20 in Farningham
“Prevention is better than cure” - but we really need to isolate this country rather than each other.

Using the death of a man and the arresting of the driver to make a lame point is in incredibly bad taste, even for you. Little Englanders like you are reason this country has effectively become a basket case. I’d rather be isolated from Little Englanders than the vast majority of those awful foreigns you and your type hate so much.

I stand by my remark there, and this guy is no better.

NO - I don’t believe “this could have happened to any of us” in this industry.
Oddballs might be surrounded by idiots, but by definition an idiot cannot be surrounded by oddballs… I just don’t have the girth to surround anyone myself.

At least “Oddballs” - don’t give the industry a bad name. We don’t own Iphones or drive with our masks on for reduced visibility, you see… :neutral_face:

63

Winseer:

switchlogic:

Winseer:
They are still finding time to bust this driver who run someone over this morning, I might add… Shame that they cannot actually save some lives whilst going about their daily business though. :frowning:
Man dies after being hit by lorry on A20 in Farningham
“Prevention is better than cure” - but we really need to isolate this country rather than each other.

Using the death of a man and the arresting of the driver to make a lame point is in incredibly bad taste, even for you. Little Englanders like you are reason this country has effectively become a basket case. I’d rather be isolated from Little Englanders than the vast majority of those awful foreigns you and your type hate so much.

I stand by my remark there, and this guy is no better.

NO - I don’t believe “this could have happened to any of us” in this industry.
Oddballs might be surrounded by idiots, but by definition an idiot cannot be surrounded by oddballs… I just don’t have the girth to surround anyone myself.
Lorry driver who killed two in M58 crash was using phone apps | Daily Mail Online

At least “Oddballs” - don’t give the industry a bad name. We don’t own Iphones or drive with our masks on for reduced visibility, you see… :neutral_face:

You know what quotation marks are? They are to contain a quote so you can comment on it…so point me to exactly where I said “this could have happened to any of us”…

My previous fairly good opinion of your intelligence is really plummeting the more I engage with you :smiley:

64

Winseer:
We don’t own Iphones or drive with our masks on for reduced visibility, you see… :neutral_face:

I don’t have any particular issue with your stance on masks. My own personal view is that it’s too little too late and they are merely a phsycological sop to encourage the timid to venture outdoors. No, my question is how TF are you wearing your mask so it affects your visibility in a manner to reduce it? You do realise that it covers your nose and mouth and not your eyes don’t you?

65

the maoster:

Winseer:
We don’t own Iphones or drive with our masks on for reduced visibility, you see… :neutral_face:

I don’t have any particular issue with your stance on masks. My own personal view is that it’s too little too late and they are merely a phsycological sop to encourage the timid to venture outdoors. No, my question is how TF are you wearing your mask so it affects your visibility in a manner to reduce it? You do realise that it covers your nose and mouth and not your eyes don’t you?

Reckon he uses the chemical weapons respirator mask from his underground home made bunker just in case the end of days arrives. Along with 12 years supply of Corned Beef and rooms decorated with tinfoil lining paper to stop the authorities tapping into his intelligence.

On a more related note… I dont wear one when driving. Its not obligatory after all

66

I also don’t wear a mask while driving…damned glasses keep steaming up :laughing:

67

Carryfast:

Trucking sideways:

Winseer:
I’m sick of the government pandering to deep state ideals, and pushing everyone around, taking their jobs away, making us all a lot poorer, just because they won’t be honest about Covid and just admit that it was a Chinese Biowarfare attempt that even from the Chinese point of view - was a bit of a failure, simply because it simply isn’t killing enough people.

[quote/]
And there it is, exactly what I thought you were getting at. It was not a Chinese biowarfare attempt at all, it came from their lab yes, but it was a mistake due to their poor control methods. The CCP are evil and don’t care about their people, but they wouldn’t release it upon themselves and shut down their economy because that will affect how the people see them and make emperor xinping Weak, the economy and how the CCP are viewed by their people are the only things they care about.

I’ve always thought it was a bioweapon and it makes no difference whether it got out prematurely by accident or not.What do you think they were doing at that lab just playing around at genetically altered viruses for a laugh.
It’s obvious that we’ve seen a civil defence response to a bio event including military involvement even at routine testing places.In addition to emergency powers transferred to local authorities just like those of a nuclear attack scenario.
I agree with Winseer blaming CCP but not his conclusions.
Ironically he never agreed with any CCP connections but now he obviously does.
Then he says let’s just make up our own minds on something as simple as masks.
What’s the big deal with using a mask in the shops.
It’s far too early days yet to know what this thing is capable of but the way in which it took off in April was an unacceptable clue.

I also agree that the government has tried to cover it all up for obvious reasons.
They knew the threat and the nature of CCP and its military capabilities including what was going on at Wuhan lab.
Then they said let’s bring it in.
As for accidental what would/could have been the delivery system for CCP’s known bioweapons programme.
The fact is there’s no way that they could have got it from the lab to the infected carrier passengers on the delivery system flights without incurring some collateral damage on route.
The government has put financial gain above national security in this dangerous relationship with this evil Communist empire.Assuming the western government officials aren’t acting under duress.

Only reason the army has been at testing stations is because we’re already being paid, with little to do, and if we catch it then it’s just collateral damage. Rather than put nurses at testing stations when they’re better used in hospitals they use troops. Nothing sinister there.

But yes, agreed on the wuhan lab. They say it’s gain of functions tests but why would they want to make it bind to receptors more effectively if not for biowarfare reasons. CCP would take some collateral damage, but they wouldn’t have locked down Wuhan the way they did if it was deliberate. It escaped by accident, and the CCP knew they were going to suffer economically so they banned internal travel and sent flights around the world, so on that sense yes I guess it was a bio warfare attack, just an unintentional one that they decide to roll with.

Hopefully trump gets back in this year and world governments stick together in standing up to the communist poison that the CCP are. The world is in flames and governments cannot be allowed to “forget” it and allow us to go back to lining the pockets of china with money to build up their military power. They are already rivals of the US, we CANNOT allow them to become number one and enforce their ideals upon the world. It will be a very depressing world with China calling the shots.

68

Trucking sideways:
Only reason the army has been at testing stations is because we’re already being paid

Combined with transfer of powers from government to local authorities which is unprecedented other than in the case of a major civil defence response ?.That’s a tall order to believe just for a natural virus transmission outbreak.

Winseer is correct on that issue.The government have covered this thing up laughably so.Whether to avoid embarassment for their complicity in it or to avoid panic who knows.

So far it looks like we’ve dodged a potentially catastrophic bullet that originated in a PLA bioweapons facility.No thanks to MI5/6 and CIA.Or the thing has only shown the tip of the iceberg regarding its capabilities and the government knows it.The situation as it reputedly stood in April suggests that it contains a nasty sting in its tail in that regard.

In which case having been sworn to secrecy regarding what I’d unbelievably seen at our facilities during my involvement as a council driver in the Able Archer stunt it all seems chillingly reminicent of that to me.
Probably with the exception in this case of the need to open up and equip the bunkers. :wink: :open_mouth:

69

I’ve no idea if masks are worth wearing but personally I don’t wear one but on the radio a couple of days ago it said that so far in this country 1300 people have died from the virus who didn’t have anything else wrong with them and the average age of the people who have died is 81 so from that I don’t think we have anything to worry about

70

mac12:
I’ve no idea if masks are worth wearing but personally I don’t wear one but on the radio a couple of days ago it said that so far in this country 1300 people have died from the virus who didn’t have anything else wrong with them and the average age of the people who have died is 81 so from that I don’t think we have anything to worry about

Who said those figures?
A doctor?
An investor wanting people working and buying his goods, so he can turn a profit whilst staying safe on his isolated yacht?
.
Only a small percentage of deaths happen to totally healthy people? Well, given the level of obesity, smoking, drinking, heart disease, and other underlying health issues that people are unaware of, that isn’t surprising. Totally healthy people are in a minority. Some C19 victims who died with underlying issues were living normal lives and were unaware of those conditions. They only showed post mortem.
.
Average age of C19 death 81? I’ve had a look at the ONS site and can’t (at a quick look only) see that figure?
Where did that come from?
.
1,300 deaths to the healthy, if true, is a bigger rate than road deaths.
No one says you shouldn’t travel by road, but you’re a fool if you don’t take basic road safely precautions.

71

There are always a lot of people who choose to brush of the potential risk to themselves of this disease claiming that it is little more than a bad cold… A watch of this from BBC1 on Wednesday might be a good idea: “Surviving the Virus my brother and me”

bbc.co.uk/programmes/m000ljnb

72

Apart from the risk of death, those who have serious forms of the virus, are taking many months to recover. Some may have scarred lungs for life.
And, all of these health problems, cost money too!
The common cold costs
cityam.com/sick-employees-a … each-year/
4.2billion quid a year in lost productivity etc. (Other estimates available)
Those advocating a quick return to normal seem to be ignoring (Apart from deaths) the on going costs of any disease.

73

Winseer:
If an Atheist were asked to cross themselves, and say their prayers every morning - would you rebel against that edict, or would you comply to “fit in”?

Surely many of us in our schooldays - would have been subjected to things like “School Assemblies” with “Prayers”, when we at that age already knew what faith, or lack thereof we already have by that point?

I’m not falling to my knees for this fake, godless religion that puts China in charge of the entire world, and everyone’s lives on it - merely because they happen to be the largest group of people and political party membership on the planet.

Democracy is failing, HAS failed. Now that Evil is in the majority… Do you let it continue when it orders you “in the majority” to act against your very nature, OR do you wake up, smell the coffee, and start pushing back?
0

Pearls before swine here i fear.Mass tv hypnotised,ill informed ‘anything for a quite lifers abound’ You can bet the farm they’ll be getting their DNA upgrades from that nice mr Gates sometime soon.

74

elsa Lad:
Winseer, Words fail me for how stupid you are, I think I bale out now because how can I reason with someone like you. If a family member dies due to the virus don’t shed a tear because remember its people like you who helped spread it.

Yep the predictable next step,Winseer the serial-killer.Wake up ffs.

75

Franglais:
Apart from the risk of death, those who have serious forms of the virus, are taking many months to recover. Some may have scarred lungs for life.
And, all of these health problems, cost money too!
The common cold costs
cityam.com/sick-employees-a … each-year/
4.2billion quid a year in lost productivity etc. (Other estimates available)
Those advocating a quick return to normal seem to be ignoring (Apart from deaths) the on-going costs of any disease.

But strangely, no large groups of such “victims” among your extended family…

I bet everyone on here knows acquiantences that have:-

Been to the beach recently
Been shopping without a mask recently
Been out and about for reasons other than “Work” or “Food Shopping” recently.
Been on Holiday recently
Been out socializing recently.
Been out for a spin in their 4x4 recently.
Conducted an affair recently

But NOT (1) Been perfectly healthy (2) Caught Covid (3) Since Died.

Odd that…

Yes, we all know someone who’s died of Covid, but in very low numbers, all people with pre-existing health conditions.
In my case for example, I have an aunt in hospital with the final stages of cancer, but she’s hanging on despite now having caught Covid in that hospital.

I’m seeing thousands of people out and about every day during this nice weather, plenty of them not wearing masks whilst driving or merely walking about at politically correct social distance…
Where are the promised “Clusters” of people now falling ill at very least?
This has been going on for well over a month now. More than long enough for the “Incubation Period” eh?

Back in 2005, Blair hung on in the general election that year, despite being despised for “Iraq” by that point.
How are people going to treat the Boris Johnson government of today with a very similar majority when judged for this appalling lie told us all - that compared to Blair’s Lies… Are actually seeing us poorer, closer to death from things OTHER than Covid, and distanced from our families?
Blair was hated - for killing a bunch of innocents abroad at the end of the day.

Do we Brits now deserve to be “culled by crushed mental health” as some kind of hand-wringing “Sorry” for Blair’s actions, rather than Boris Johnson’s?

It’s almost as if someone laid a big Body Snatcher “Pod” next to his hospital bedside - since he came out of Hospital markedly shifted to the Left, and blowing all former Tory reputation for “Protecting the Money” in one fell swoop?

To suggest that I am spreading Covid when I don’t have it - is slander btw.

76

Trucking sideways:

Winseer:

edd1974:
What I don’t get is this.
Since this started were told wash our hands wash our hands. Everyware you go there’s sanitizing stations
etc. The virus lives on surfaces were told.
The government should make us all.wear gloves.
It occurred to me weeks ago I walk around tesco.pushing my trolly. I always wear disposable gloves…
Yet 99% of the shoppers don’t.
I always try n wear gloves when possible.

I don’t, because there have been no reports of hundreds of people suddenly dying anywhere near a supermarket.

I’m sick of the government pandering to deep state ideals, and pushing everyone around, taking their jobs away, making us all a lot poorer, just because they won’t be honest about Covid and just admit that it was a Chinese Biowarfare attempt that even from the Chinese point of view - was a bit of a failure, simply because it simply isn’t killing enough people.

To listen to the scaremongers, anyone would think that we’re talking something between the Black Death and Flu Pandemic of 100 years ago.

It’s not.

It never was.

It is a cold that has been bigged-up to control the masses for something deeper down, and far more insidious whilst we’re at home, wearing masks, and not bloody well looking at what world governments acting in cahoots are up to.

As for “gainful employment” - Can you imagine how difficult it would be to keep one’s job if you so much as caught a heavy cold now?

Anyone on here currently working, but throwing a sickie, now that they didn’t get furlough pay?
…I doubt it actually. To go “sick” now is to invite dismissal.

And there it is, exactly what I thought you were getting at. It was not a Chinese biowarfare attempt at all, it came from their lab yes, but it was a mistake due to their poor control methods. The CCP are evil and don’t care about their people, but they wouldn’t release it upon themselves and shut down their economy because that will affect how the people see them and make emperor xinping Weak, the economy and how the CCP are viewed by their people are the only things they care about.

Deep state? Control? What are you talking about? Deep state are senior intelligence, senior military & civil service that have been in the job for years and out last The government, it’s not the rothchilds or bill gates or whatever else YouTube is telling you. I work directly for the top echelons of the military and believe me, they aren’t the type of evil blood drinkers plotting the downfall of the U.K, they are patriots that love the U.K. and have devoted their lives to the service of the country, and YOU.

Jesus Christ you have sealed my opinion of you, idiot.

What fresh hell is this…work for the highest echelons of the military :open_mouth: ?..Majesty 12 ? Committee 30 ? what utter cobblers…mind we did previously have a Hereford neck-snapper on here,but guess he’s been to busy chez Afghanistan,Iraq to give us further tales of derring-do’ery.Your knowledge of the ‘Deep-State’ is laughable,to put it mildly,if you think the ‘intelligence’ networks constitute the ‘Deep-State’ you’re the idiot here chum.China has it’s own deep-state,why do you think the Rockefeller clan set up shop there decades ago?..who owns the pharma-cartel ?..clue-The Rockefellers…research-‘Operation-Lockstep’ it’s coming to a cinema near you and youtube doesn’t speak as one voice,Vernon-Coleman has a platform there as do others of a more,let’s say ‘imaginative’ persuasion.

77

manalishi:

Winseer:
If an Atheist were asked to cross themselves, and say their prayers every morning - would you rebel against that edict, or would you comply to “fit in”?

Surely many of us in our schooldays - would have been subjected to things like “School Assemblies” with “Prayers”, when we at that age already knew what faith, or lack thereof we already have by that point?

I’m not falling to my knees for this fake, godless religion that puts China in charge of the entire world, and everyone’s lives on it - merely because they happen to be the largest group of people and political party membership on the planet.

Democracy is failing, HAS failed. Now that Evil is in the majority… Do you let it continue when it orders you “in the majority” to act against your very nature, OR do you wake up, smell the coffee, and start pushing back?
0

Pearls before swine here i fear.Mass tv hypnotised,ill informed ‘anything for a quite lifers abound’ You can bet the farm they’ll be getting their DNA upgrades from that nice mr Gates sometime soon.

You dismiss those of us who want a quiet simple life but to what end does your fight with Rothschild/Soros/Gates/Shirley Bassey et al serve? If they are the all powerful overlords you believe them to be the fact is you can think you are fighting against them for your entire adult life and the result? It all just be as exactly the same at the end as it was at the beginning.

Personally I think these theories dramatically over exaggerate humans capability. Yes there’s lots going on behind scenes that we don’t know about, always was always will be but one family controlling the entire world? Nah sorry, pie in the sky

78

switchlogic:

Winseer:

switchlogic:

Winseer:
They are still finding time to bust this driver who run someone over this morning, I might add… Shame that they cannot actually save some lives whilst going about their daily business though. :frowning:
Man dies after being hit by lorry on A20 in Farningham
“Prevention is better than cure” - but we really need to isolate this country rather than each other.

Using the death of a man and the arresting of the driver to make a lame point is in incredibly bad taste, even for you. Little Englanders like you are reason this country has effectively become a basket case. I’d rather be isolated from Little Englanders than the vast majority of those awful foreigns you and your type hate so much.

I stand by my remark there, and this guy is no better.

NO - I don’t believe “this could have happened to any of us” in this industry.
Oddballs might be surrounded by idiots, but by definition an idiot cannot be surrounded by oddballs… I just don’t have the girth to surround anyone myself.
Lorry driver who killed two in M58 crash was using phone apps | Daily Mail Online

At least “Oddballs” - don’t give the industry a bad name. We don’t own Iphones or drive with our masks on for reduced visibility, you see… :neutral_face:

You know what quotation marks are? They are to contain a quote so you can comment on it…so point me to exactly where I said “this could have happened to any of us”…

My previous fairly good opinion of your intelligence is really plummeting the more I engage with you :smiley:

Didn’t you make the assumption that the killed pedestrian was somehow not purposesfully “in harms way” there? I find it hard to believe that some lone trucker out on a road at 04:30hrs would run into anyone on the road that wasn’t purposely there to be hit… If your assumption is correct, they’ll name the pedestrian, but not name the driver. If I’m correct, they’ll name the driver, and not name the pedestrian.

…For instance, this “pedestrian” might have been trying to hold up the truck, when trucker decided they were not having any of it… We know what Plod are like when “members of the public take the law into their own hands”, rather than submitting to criminal’s demands, which would have been ruinous should trucker be an Owner-Driver - Right?

It is unusual for the police to arrest the driver, keeping them in custody who also was likely to be the one who called them in.. Who else would be about as witness at that time of the morning, and trust me - that road IS quiet at that time of the morning, as I have parked in that very layby there often when I was working at Brakes, whereas now it will be quieter still @4:30am - because of the lockdown…

Let’s hear what the police have to say about this case in due course - BUT I wouldn’t hold my breath for any straight answers…

79

FFS Winseer, you just keep on digging don’t you. I post about you making up things I’ve said then you go on and make up another. ‘If your assumption is correct’…I didn’t make or state any assumptions or opinions, you’re making them up

80

switchlogic:

manalishi:

Winseer:
If an Atheist were asked to cross themselves, and say their prayers every morning - would you rebel against that edict, or would you comply to “fit in”?

Surely many of us in our schooldays - would have been subjected to things like “School Assemblies” with “Prayers”, when we at that age already knew what faith, or lack thereof we already have by that point?

I’m not falling to my knees for this fake, godless religion that puts China in charge of the entire world, and everyone’s lives on it - merely because they happen to be the largest group of people and political party membership on the planet.

Democracy is failing, HAS failed. Now that Evil is in the majority… Do you let it continue when it orders you “in the majority” to act against your very nature, OR do you wake up, smell the coffee, and start pushing back?
0

Pearls before swine here i fear.Mass tv hypnotised,ill informed ‘anything for a quite lifers abound’ You can bet the farm they’ll be getting their DNA upgrades from that nice mr Gates sometime soon.

You dismiss those of us who want a quiet simple life but to what end does your fight with Rothschild/Soros/Gates/Shirley Bassey et al serve? If they are the all powerful overlords you believe them to be the fact is you can think you are fighting against them for your entire adult life and the result? It all just be as exactly the same at the end as it was at the beginning.

Personally I think these theories dramatically over exaggerate humans capability. Yes there’s lots going on behind scenes that we don’t know about, always was always will be but one family controlling the entire world? Nah sorry, pie in the sky

The Rothies aren’t all powerful in the occultic sense of the word,they just have the most bread,as you’d expect from the high-priests of Babylonian, money magik,finance.Real power currency exists with (sangreal) blood-purity ,al a -Medicis,Orsini,Brakespears,Merovingians ,i.e-Black-Nobility. Compared to this lot the Rothschilds are merely’in-trade’ they are essentially the arch-intriguers and shakers of the planet,a working knowledge of their story would be a good side project.