FFS all you had to post was “You can get away without wearing a mask at Lidl, but not Tesco, Aldi and I’m not sure about Sainsburys” or something similar.
…Always the tirade instead though. If I moan about the establishment, which shouldn’t be anything personal to any of yous out there - you don’t ever need to retaliate against me, as all I ever try to do on here is open people’s eyes to a wider everything.
For a bunch of folk who keep saying how they are going to avoid my posts as being too long-winded to read all the time, it is amazing just how many go out of their way to moan at me, even on threads I’ve started about something that surely should just get a straight answer from people, rather than these endless bash-thump things that don’t do anyone any favours, not even those wasting their time posting non-constructive replies to me all the time. Yes, I get it if you all think I’m an oddball, and you probably dislike me for the same reason Lefties dislike Dominic ■■■■■■■■■ despite the fact that he’s no more a member of the Conservative Party than I am.
The reason all these things get politicial - is because others make it so, if I haven’t already.
If I were to draw a conclusion right now to my OP here, I’d have to unwillingly conform, because if I don’t - I can rely on all you gits out there to grass me up to plod first chance I get, so perhaps it is best I shrink back to some kind of anon status, where you might walk right past me, mistaking me for any other random “Conformer”.
robroy:
I’m getting the idea that Winseer sees himself as some kind of a rebel hero here.
I’m guessing this is the first time he’s ever non conformed to anything…I’ll show em, I won’t wear my mask.
Winseer mate nobody gives a [zb]!! …If you want to wear one wear one if you don’t then don’t. simples.
Newsflash.
NO [zb] CARES !!
This this this! It’s given the disgruntled a way to fight back against ‘the man’, Rothschild, Soros, Gates, Elton John. The ones I’ve engaged with are so full of themselves for ‘thinking differently’ and being a rebel but when you try and challenge them you find they couldn’t debate their way out of a paper bag, that’s on fire. And they inevitably snootily call the likes of me a sheep that knows nothing. Seems the idea that someone could be well read but come to different conclusions is an alien one to them.
Talking in general here, not all necessarily Winseer directed
robroy:
I’m getting the idea that Winseer sees himself as some kind of a rebel hero here. [emoji38]
I’m guessing this is the first time he’s ever non conformed to anything…I’ll show em, I won’t wear my mask.
Winseer mate nobody gives a [zb]!! …If you want to wear one wear one if you don’t then don’t. simples.
Newsflash.
NO [zb] CARES !!
This this this! It’s given the disgruntled a way to fight back against ‘the man’, Rothschild, Soros, Gates, Elton John. The ones I’ve engaged with are so full of themselves for ‘thinking differently’ and being a rebel but when you try and challenge them you find they couldn’t debate their way out of a paper bag, that’s on fire. And they inevitably snootily call the likes of me a sheep that knows nothing. Seems the idea that someone could be well read but come to different conclusions is an alien one to them.
Talking in general here, not all necessarily Winseer directed
Those who are against mask wearing, generally, don’t engage in discussion on the facts, you’re right.
They may throw out an unsubstantiated ‘fact’, then just carry on about sheeple/control/independence etc.
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There is a place for independent and original thought, but it needs to be backed up with actual facts!
If anyone wants to say that 2plus2 equals summat other than 4 they need to say why. They need some sort of narrative and evidence.
Saying 2plus2 equals a conspiracy, is not good enough.
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Those who correctly changed the way we think about a subject, did so with reason, not through arguing the alternative is a conspiracy.
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There are only “opinions”, with our lying cheating poltiicans getting elected on one set of promises and policies - only to implement and rigidly enforce a bunch of other stuff before their electoral promises even begin to be completed.
The correct way to have done this lockdown - was to complete Brexit first, pull up that damned drawbridge, and deny this “right” to come here without id from countries not even in the EU, and probably riddled with all manner of diseases. That way we keep out what was once threatening to be another 1349 Venice-originating scourge across Europe.
The way it is going now - I cannot see us actually completing anything bar a soft “Brexit-in-name-only” by December 31st, as we’re so reluctant to pull up that drawbridge, even with a DOUBLE mandate now to do so - we’ve force-fed everyone in this country with these rigid enforcement of “rules” that wouldn’t be the case had we isolated our island properly, using our offshore moat as the obvious means of protection to both illegal immigrants AND unwanted foreign diseases at the same time.
The continuing suppression of freedom - is what eventually kills off our economy altogether. The Self-Employed - are feeling it already. Job applicants are alreay racing to undercut each other’s bids to be taken on as a member of staff with rights. I have no idea what is happening in the world of agencies any more, as I’ve since left that.
The Police - should be rounding up, and deporting illegals rather than following dog walkers and shoppers about, slapping £100 fines on them.
They are still finding time to bust this driver who run someone over this morning, I might add… Shame that they cannot actually save some lives whilst going about their daily business though.
“Prevention is better than cure” - but we really need to isolate this country rather than each other.
Winseer, you really are a bit pathetic sometimes with the rubbish you spout on here.
Me personally, I have my own views on being asked to wear a mask 5 months into the pandemic, the words “horse” “stable” “door” and “bolted spring to mind.
However, we have been asked to wear them by the government when we go into shops or supermarkets so I put one on. It really isn’t difficult or an inconvenience. I put mine on before I go in the shop and take it off when outside, simple.
I think it especially sad you are boycotting where you usuallly shop because you can’t do something so easy but hey if you want to inconvenience yourself then go ahead. I’m sure Tesco will survive just fine without your custom now that you are not going to “darken their door any more”
Life is to short for me to worry about being called a “sheep” or that I’m being “manipulated” because I’m doing as I’ve been asked, whatever my thoughts may be on the matter. But you keep up your pointless one man crusade that is only going to be an inconvenience to yourself.
Winseer:
They are still finding time to bust this driver who run someone over this morning, I might add… Shame that they cannot actually save some lives whilst going about their daily business though. Man dies after being hit by lorry on A20 in Farningham
“Prevention is better than cure” - but we really need to isolate this country rather than each other.
Using the death of a man and the arresting of the driver to make a lame point is in incredibly bad taste, even for you. Little Englanders like you are reason this country has effectively become a basket case. I’d rather be isolated from Little Englanders than the vast majority of those awful foreigns you and your type hate so much.
Winseer:
I’m sick of the government pandering to deep state ideals, and pushing everyone around, taking their jobs away, making us all a lot poorer, just because they won’t be honest about Covid and just admit that it was a Chinese Biowarfare attempt that even from the Chinese point of view - was a bit of a failure, simply because it simply isn’t killing enough people.
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And there it is, exactly what I thought you were getting at. It was not a Chinese biowarfare attempt at all, it came from their lab yes, but it was a mistake due to their poor control methods. The CCP are evil and don’t care about their people, but they wouldn’t release it upon themselves and shut down their economy because that will affect how the people see them and make emperor xinping Weak, the economy and how the CCP are viewed by their people are the only things they care about.
I’ve always thought it was a bioweapon and it makes no difference whether it got out prematurely by accident or not.What do you think they were doing at that lab just playing around at genetically altered viruses for a laugh.
It’s obvious that we’ve seen a civil defence response to a bio event including military involvement even at routine testing places.In addition to emergency powers transferred to local authorities just like those of a nuclear attack scenario.
I agree with Winseer blaming CCP but not his conclusions.
Ironically he never agreed with any CCP connections but now he obviously does.
Then he says let’s just make up our own minds on something as simple as masks.
What’s the big deal with using a mask in the shops.
It’s far too early days yet to know what this thing is capable of but the way in which it took off in April was an unacceptable clue.
I also agree that the government has tried to cover it all up for obvious reasons.
They knew the threat and the nature of CCP and its military capabilities including what was going on at Wuhan lab.
Then they said let’s bring it in.
As for accidental what would/could have been the delivery system for CCP’s known bioweapons programme.
The fact is there’s no way that they could have got it from the lab to the infected carrier passengers on the delivery system flights without incurring some collateral damage on route.
The government has put financial gain above national security in this dangerous relationship with this evil Communist empire.Assuming the western government officials aren’t acting under duress.
Winseer:
They are still finding time to bust this driver who run someone over this morning, I might add… Shame that they cannot actually save some lives whilst going about their daily business though. Man dies after being hit by lorry on A20 in Farningham
“Prevention is better than cure” - but we really need to isolate this country rather than each other.
Using the death of a man and the arresting of the driver to make a lame point is in incredibly bad taste, even for you. Little Englanders like you are reason this country has effectively become a basket case. I’d rather be isolated from Little Englanders than the vast majority of those awful foreigns you and your type hate so much.
I’m not the Xenophobe remember. There was no mention that the arrested driver was “Foreign” neither.
When was the last time police turned up in time to actually save lives, rather than being a complete pain in the arse to everyone?
Decided to double down on the poor taste then You’re an interesting character, sometimes you sound intelligent then other times you can’t see what’s right in front of you and get confused by simplest comments, not to mention the absolute nonsense you come out with
Winseer old mate, give it up there’s no arguing with the collective borg, they are convinced they are right on and anyone who has different thought of their own has to be shouted down, its where were are in the present world.
Juddian:
Winseer old mate, give it up there’s no arguing with the collective borg, they are convinced they are right on and anyone who has different thought of their own has to be shouted down, its where were are in the present world.
Just go and do your own thing mate, same as i do.
And as if by magic he proves all I said earlier
switchlogic:
This this this! It’s given the disgruntled a way to fight back against ‘the man’, Rothschild, Soros, Gates, Elton John. The ones I’ve engaged with are so full of themselves for ‘thinking differently’ and being a rebel but when you try and challenge them you find they couldn’t debate their way out of a paper bag, that’s on fire. And they inevitably snootily call the likes of me a sheep that knows nothing. Seems the idea that someone could be well read but come to different conclusions is an alien one to them.
Borg though, good reference, only slightly less tediously predictable than calling us sheep, bravo
Winseer:
FFS all you had to post was “You can get away without wearing a mask at Lidl, but not Tesco, Aldi and I’m not sure about Sainsburys” or something similar.
…Always the tirade instead though. If I moan about the establishment, which shouldn’t be anything personal to any of yous out there - you don’t ever need to retaliate against me, as all I ever try to do on here is open people’s eyes to a wider everything.
For a bunch of folk who keep saying how they are going to avoid my posts as being too long-winded to read all the time, it is amazing just how many go out of their way to moan at me, even on threads I’ve started about something that surely should just get a straight answer from people, rather than these endless bash-thump things that don’t do anyone any favours, not even those wasting their time posting non-constructive replies to me all the time. Yes, I get it if you all think I’m an oddball, and you probably dislike me for the same reason Lefties dislike Dominic ■■■■■■■■■ despite the fact that he’s no more a member of the Conservative Party than I am.
The reason all these things get politicial - is because others make it so, if I haven’t already.
There have been people going about their business maskless, and more relevantly to your op, unchallenged wherever I’ve been.
The answer to your question in most cases is this; it really isn’t so much of a case of finding which retailers etc are using a relaxed approach towards masks. It has more to do with whether the staff in these places wish to challenge customers about it. When I worked in retail on minimum wage by the way, would I have challenged a customer who decided not to wear one? Would I heck.
This is clearly a topic which splits opinion. As I’ve previously stated, each to his own. I’ll carry on wearing mine and won’t judge anyone who chooses not to whether I agree with their reasoning or not.
See? There is a capacity on tnuk to have a balanced and sensible discussion even if we aren’t all in agreement?
Juddian:
Winseer old mate, give it up there’s no arguing with the collective borg, they are convinced they are right on and anyone who has different thought of their own has to be shouted down, its where were are in the present world.
Just go and do your own thing mate, same as i do.
Shouted you down?..
Quite the opposite. I’ve asked you twice in recent posts to explain where we ‘the collective Borg’ are going wrong and supply the answers.
Twice, you’ve refused to do so.
Likewise, you’re convinced you’re right. That makes you a tad hypocritical.
simples.
