I straight away thought of Felgates, and they had tag axles. You should have been more help to us, and got a chassis number or something !!!
man-tga:
stumbled upon this today…Wasnt anybody around that i could speak to about this belter… so need to do some more investigations about it methinks…
Does anybody think they know what the livery would have been…■■
please enjoy…
No don’t think I owned this one definitely an added on tag axle, its an old trailer axle! But passed it’s sell by date now
Can’t think of a possible former owner either, the paint work is not distinctive enough for a name to immediately spring to mind!
Regards Pat
Dieselcowboy:
I straight away thought of Felgates, and they had tag axles. You should have been more help to us, and got a chassis number or something !!!
I thought felgates straight away although the years do play tricks on your memory
Dunno who it belonged too. but it is a sad sight. To think that at one time, someone was proud to own it, and no doubt some driver proud to drive it. Here’s the old girl looking neglected and dying, at least she might yield some spares and save another one I guess.
Poor old thing…bless…
someone should put it out of its misery my cousin who had a large breakers at hendon in the 60s would have had it by now in the scrap and engine g/box for export job done
possibly tommy bakers from oldbury looks like it has the same shine on the paintwork
looks like ake johanssons from sweden same blue and white.
Its not Felgates 'cos a) he didnt have any 141’s in his first fleet, only years later when they were yellow and blue, and b)his first fleet (up to around 1980) didnt have six wheelers.
My guess is Pentons also
K
some cracking comments here lads and glad to see you all like the pic…
hopefully gonna get down there tomorrow with me camara… (these pics here are on my phone). and get some more pics … and some pics of the inside of the cab… and ask around the few companys that are down there if they own it and its history…
Regarding if it was a heavey Haulage unit or not… i zoomed into the original pic on the drive axle… and there is two sets of Leaf springs on it… would this mean sense as a heavy hauler… and also above where the tag axle is there is a big plate where i think it has been extended … but alas i dont know anything about that sort of thing …
man-tga:
some cracking comments here lads and glad to see you all like the pic…hopefully gonna get down there tomorrow with me camara… (these pics here are on my phone). and get some more pics … and some pics of the inside of the cab… and ask around the few companys that are down there if they own it and its history…
Regarding if it was a heavey Haulage unit or not… i zoomed into the original pic on the drive axle… and there is two sets of Leaf springs on it… would this mean sense as a heavy hauler… and also above where the tag axle is there is a big plate where i think it has been extended … but alas i dont know anything about that sort of thing …
That is Defo a Blacksmith job if ever there was one ! It never came of the production lines at Soldetjal (spelling not good ) or Zwoll in Holland where Scanias did build some “animals” !! If it had been a heavy haulage motor it would probably have had a Hub Reduction axle ! But I hazzard a guess that if that old girl had been asked to pull it would have pulled its A**e off first !! Bewick.
Hi,
All Scanias of that age had two springs per side on the drive axle, the top spring was the “helper” , the tag axle on the other hand is an absolute codge. An original LBS 6x2 had an electric/hydraulic tag. The colour scheme reminds me of Leighton transport (Kidderminster?)
Nearly all lorries in those days had two springs, the upper set were helper springs, basically a stiffer set of springs for when it was loaded, that supposedly gave a better ride when part loaded or empty, although anyone who has driven a steel sprung Scania solo will tell you they were still a bit bouncy, especially when braking.
As it’s in Scotland & it has the same colour scheme as Mcsomething or other from Perth it could be one of theirs, although they run ERFs & Fodens (well they did when you could get them) & I remember talking to the guvnor when I was doing something about the Foden alpha when I was at TRUCK mag & I’m sure that he was very patriotic & would only run British built lorries, so unlikely it was one of theirs, seems that Pentons is the most likely, they had Scanias, they had add on tags etc etc
i fink it needs a set of cab mounts at the back, an a set of mirrors…
it would make a great restoration project…if you got enough cash and the spares are easy to get hold of.
when you find out who it is ill phone them and see if they need a driver for the old girl, it has wheels and half a cab…be better than driving an iveco
I’m sure it’s not Pentons ,more like Birds. Is it for sale as I’m rebuilding one and the cab is better than this one just
It is definitely a hatchet job Bewick, the right hand drive Scania would have been run in the UK with 2 axles at 32500kg. You can see the standard leaf springs and you can see the added chassis extensions & flitching, bolted not riveted to the original chassis. Again if you look closer you can see the single leaf suspension with the mountings for a pair of air bellows, something not generally available in 1976/77
Hi Trev
This scania 141 certainly looks like one of my old ones that was sold at my sale
but we never had a 141 six wheel tractor unit. Who ever bought the unit must have had the conversion done
Do you have any idea where the photos were taken ?
Regards Geoff Leighton
SWEDISH CRAP.
This truck has gone from here probably sent to the scrapyard
Mortimers . . a la “eat more chips” ?