Those are some great shots of Carryfast you have there.
Brentanna:
Those are some great shots of Carryfast you have there.
For such a so called clever person as yourself,who usually likes to put down different comparisons when it suits you,I’m surprised that you did’nt seem to want to do that with the comments related to the compression ratio possible,with a small capacity high revving racing bike/car engine,in the context of it’s ability to avoid ‘detonation’ issues.
So you’ve obviously never heard of valve overlap and the high inlet gas velocity that creates the type of turbulence that allows the use of much higher compression ratios than would be the case with lower revving engines.
In addition to that we’ve also got the added cylinder pressure issues related to forced induction in the case of a truck diesel and the type of engine (large capacity,supercharged relatively low revving,spark ignition) which I’m advocating as being far more suited to making best use of the alternative fuel options which we’ve got available.I doubt that his racing bike has forced induction.
So would you be up for seeing which type comes out on top,both in relation to economics and performance,in a decent test of my type of motor,running on LPG,versus a compression ignition diesel engine running on alternative fuels 
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But as for the pics I’m not surprised that you’d like to think that they relate to me considering that you seem to be on a different planet where everything is upside down. 
DoYouMeanMe?:
Brentanna.
I saw this and couldn’t resist.ps. My race bikes run at 15+:1 CR and I wish they would carry on running and self combust when a plug goes down, the failure rate of plugs is much higher in recent years.
Who said anything about ‘self combustion’.‘Detonation’ is the type of scenario that I’m talking about which is’nt generally an issue with race bikes.But a large capacity slower revving motor,especially if it’s got forced induction,is a different matter.
well carrytwit still at it lets see for a motorbike especially race you could have reed, rotory, as well as a host of other valve types. Secondly you were not paying attention in class we were talking about one thing you were off in your own little world you have yet to prove any of your BS with reliable data so just shut up you are an idiot you have proven that beyond a shadow of a doubt, the jury is no longer out, the jury of your peers found you guilty of being one super dense person. Done over turn out the lights Elvis has left the building. The fat lady has sung, the final curtain has fallen. THATS ALL FOLKS.
Brentanna:
well carrytwit still at it lets see for a motorbike especially race you could have reed, rotory, as well as a host of other valve types. Secondly you were not paying attention in class we were talking about one thing you were off in your own little world you have yet to prove any of your BS with reliable data so just shut up you are an idiot you have proven that beyond a shadow of a doubt, the jury is no longer out, the jury of your peers found you guilty of being one super dense person. Done over turn out the lights Elvis has left the building. The fat lady has sung, the final curtain has fallen. THATS ALL FOLKS.
A jury of my ‘peers’ would be a jury made up of those who can understand basic engine design differences.So far I’ve not seen any thing here which says that I’ve had a fair trial yet.But you’ve just shown again the level of your understanding if you think that the valve type is the relevant issue as to why a relatively much higher revving engine,which produces it’s power at relatively much higher engine speeds,because it does’nt fill it’s cylinders with as much of a charge at low revs as it does at higher revs,can tolerate relatively higher compression ratios than a relatively slower revving one.
But you’ll notice that I’m confident enough about my arguments,and intelligence, not to need to resort to calling you everything under the sun to try to make my point. 
You can stop yapping anytime carrytwit my brother raced motorcycles for years and snowmachines in the winter. You keep yapping but have yet to prove any of your point your just keep going and going with nothing new or actually important to say. So just stop as you can see there has not been one soul here that has supported your view of things, you have not supplied one reliable source even the engine manufacturers which were linked to you obviously disagree as they are using the technology, the university engineering dept obviously disagrees as they are doing testing and experiments with this technology and system. So many of the people in the world are doing what you say cant be done and you are still yapping like you know better than they do shut the ■■■■ up already you are not inpressing anyone, as a matter of fact you are totally annoying and thats putting it kindly. Never mind the rolling eyes in all your posts most people who read the crap you have put up are shaking there heads going can this person reallyy be that stupid. So stop already you were proven wrong on so many levels and you are the only one who seems to think you were not.
Brentanna:
You can stop yapping anytime carrytwit my brother raced motorcycles for years and snowmachines in the winter. You keep yapping but have yet to prove any of your point your just keep going and going with nothing new or actually important to say. So just stop as you can see there has not been one soul here that has supported your view of things, you have not supplied one reliable source even the engine manufacturers which were linked to you obviously disagree as they are using the technology, the university engineering dept obviously disagrees as they are doing testing and experiments with this technology and system. So many of the people in the world are doing what you say cant be done and you are still yapping like you know better than they do shut the [zb] up already you are not inpressing anyone, as a matter of fact you are totally annoying and thats putting it kindly. Never mind the rolling eyes in all your posts most people who read the crap you have put up are shaking there heads going can this person reallyy be that stupid. So stop already you were proven wrong on so many levels and you are the only one who seems to think you were not.
You can rant as much as you like but the fact is it’s my idea that would allow the sole use of a much cheaper (at present),widely available alternative fuel to diesel,assuming that the choice is between running a compression ignition diesel engine on an alternative fuel,that’s more suited to a spark ignition engine,or just using that fuel in that type of engine that’s designed to run on it.
But it’s not just me who knows that a 15:1 compression ratio race bike engine is’nt comparable,in the context of the type of large capacity,slow revving,forced induction engine,needed to run a truck.The question is why did someone who says they’ve got experience of race bikes not question that issue as I did considering that you’ve made enough issues about other,more relevant,types of comparisons which I’ve made .
visordown.com/workshops/sque … /2423.html (last sentence).
I haven’t taken any notice of this thread but just noticed it had reached 13 pages so took a look. Surprise surprise it’s Carryfast
switchlogic:
I haven’t taken any notice of this thread but just noticed it had reached 13 pages so took a look. Surprise surprise it’s Carryfast
But I have’nt said anything much different to what wheelnut said but it’s Brentanna who seemed to want to make an issue about that in my case not his for some reason .
Carryfast:
switchlogic:
I haven’t taken any notice of this thread but just noticed it had reached 13 pages so took a look. Surprise surprise it’s CarryfastBut I have’nt said anything much different to what wheelnut said but it’s Brentanna who seemed to want to make an issue about that in my case not his for some reason
I don’t think I have posted anything since page 2 and that was about Mr. Tinkler winning a CBI business award. The other thing I mentioned was gas fumigation which no-one is arguing with, yet!
Wheel Nut:
Carryfast:
switchlogic:
I haven’t taken any notice of this thread but just noticed it had reached 13 pages so took a look. Surprise surprise it’s CarryfastBut I have’nt said anything much different to what wheelnut said but it’s Brentanna who seemed to want to make an issue about that in my case not his for some reason
I don’t think I have posted anything since page 2 and that was about Mr. Tinkler winning a CBI business award. The other thing I mentioned was gas fumigation which no-one is arguing with, yet!
Last post on page 1.It’s ironic that it’s this topic where we’ve found something to agree on. 
Wheel Nut:
swansea jack:
Wheel Nut:
This company has been involved with gas trucks for some time, and supplies many of the fuel stops in the UK and are often seen abroad.chive-ltd.co.uk/chivefuels/a … efuels.htm
The lads who ran the Vauxhall trailers out of Purfleet to Ellesmere Port and Luton were on gas too. Hardstaffs have a mention on Chives website!
This company supply lng not lpg as the 2 get mixed up the stobart trucks run on lng liquified natural gas or can run on liquid biomethane from waste great idea according to volvo trucks website they are doing trials in the uk ie stobarts and in sweden and are looking to bring production line duel fuel gas trucks to the market this year but where do u get the gas from?
A diesel will not run on LPG without a spark and you would probably knock the bottom end out even if you could fit plugs.
Brentanna:
LPG needs spark ignition so it’s not compatible with diesel engined trucks or cars
Pardon me. that has got to be one of the stupidest things you’ve said so far. Oxygen for pete’s sake will combust if enough compession is applied. LP gas will combust with enough combustion pressure is applied. Autoignition temp is 1004 degrees F. Now the pressure required to bring the temperature to 1004 degrees will cause combustion. Dont know where you went to school carry but I think maybe they made a mistake, and just let you slide through.
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Now if I can just find a spare Meteor out of an old Centurion tank and bolt a supercharger to it and fit it with liquid phase LPG injection I’m just wondering if Brentanna would be up for that test with that fitted in an old Antar instead of the Meteorite,versus a diesel running on LPG instead,pulling a fully freighted Canadian A Train.
See told you carryfast cant read. There is nothing there that has been disputed the spark is being supplied by the 5% + diesel injected into the cylinder, there is therefore an ignition source. Dont need to put in sparkplugs no need to make gas only engines. As well Wheelnut said you would likely however the physics and thermodynamics proves that likely would not happen. So no you and he have not been saying the same thing. He never once stated that the gas would ignite permaturely on the compression stroke. He did not say anything in regard to the compressabilit of the gas or its temperature of ignition. Sorry Carry you are still on your own with that.
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by Carryfast » Fri Jan 07, 2011 2:20 amSoldier z wrote:
The ESL units are dual fuel - Diesel / LPG
I assume it similer to a car in taht you caqn run on either then switch about
The units are more expensive but teh cost of LPG shopuld offset thatLPG needs spark ignition so it’s not compatible with diesel engined trucks or cars and it’s got less calorific value than petrol or diesel.But it’s got much better octane rating than petrol so what’s needed is a supercharged spark ignition truck engine.But when everyone’s fitted one of those the zb’s in the government would just raise the tax on LPG.
Who’s name is on top of the quote that I quoted ? Doesnt look to me like Wheelnut Nevr seen that name with the spelling Carryfast is that the French spelling ?
Want to try again ?
Brentanna:
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by Carryfast » Fri Jan 07, 2011 2:20 amSoldier z wrote:
The ESL units are dual fuel - Diesel / LPG
I assume it similer to a car in taht you caqn run on either then switch about
The units are more expensive but teh cost of LPG shopuld offset thatLPG needs spark ignition so it’s not compatible with diesel engined trucks or cars and it’s got less calorific value than petrol or diesel.But it’s got much better octane rating than petrol so what’s needed is a supercharged spark ignition truck engine.But when everyone’s fitted one of those the zb’s in the government would just raise the tax on LPG.
Who’s name is on top of the quote that I quoted ? Doesnt look to me like Wheelnut Nevr seen that name with the spelling Carryfast is that the French spelling ?
Want to try again ?
To which wheelnut replied to a similar type of post,probably correctly,that it’s probably fumigation not 97% LPG with a 3% diesel pilot light.
Wheel Nut:
swansea jack:
aldi supermarket scanias are running on duel fuel LPG/DERV system and mc donalds and owens llanelli had a few volvos the gas is sucked into the air inlet system then mixed with diesel and air i think
I believe you are talking of gas fumigation which can make a diesel run smoother, but not sure it does anything for economy.
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■■■■ you have to be the stupidest man on earth, really. Wheelnut did not have the data I provided the data and the proof that lpg gas with a shot of diesel will ignite, any ■■■■■■■ gas even xylene will ignite with a percentile of diesel. You are so ■■■■■■ up you are trying to imply someone else has said the same thing you did and he didnt. So try again. Not one statement besides yours have implied it would not work. Noone has come in here and said Carry is right here is the proof, noone has come in and said they agree with what you are saying WHAT DOES THAT TELL YOU.
Carryfast:
But I have’nt said anything much different to what wheelnut said but it’s Brentanna who seemed to want to make an issue about that in my case not his for some reason
Hi Carryfast,
You might not have noticed that you’ve been moving the goalposts and evading perfectly sensible questions for several pages, but others have.
IMHO, you’ve posted nonsense, irrelevance and obfuscation (in varying ratios) at Olympic standard and in biblical proportions.
Scarily, some of it is even at weapons grade.
Brentanna:
[zb] you have to be the stupidest man on earth, really. Wheelnut did not have the data I provided the data and the proof that lpg gas with a shot of diesel will ignite, any [zb] gas even xylene will ignite with a percentile of diesel. You are so [zb] up you are trying to imply someone else has said the same thing you did and he didnt. So try again. Not one statement besides yours have implied it would not work. Noone has come in here and said Carry is right here is the proof, noone has come in and said they agree with what you are saying WHAT DOES THAT TELL YOU.
It all depends on your definition of ignite and combust versus detonate instead.
So let’s hear from wheelnut and see if he really has changed his mind based on your data.