Stobarts lose tesco contract

dozy:
they can’t make money on tesco ,tesco won’t pay anymore too make it profitable for stobarts so there sourcing work from elsewhere .

I don’t know a lot about this, (mainly as I aint really interested tbh) but did Tesco not have their own transport originally, and Stobart stormed in with a low rate and took it all over?
If that is right it serves the ■■■■ s right if they can not make it pay, ■■■■ them, and if like minded heads up their own arses type ‘Logistic Specialists’’ :unamused: firms like DHL rock up with an even lower rate, let them all crack on, make a balls of it, and let them all go ■■■■ bust…, who would care anyway, not the real drivers I would bet, because they are treated like schoolboys not men, and are on average money anyway.

Rottweiler22:
There was a famous story about a foreign agency driver at Goole who went all the way down to Daventry, with a load bound for the North-East, because he couldn’t read the paperwork or understand the planners, but Daventry was the only place name he saw, so he went there. :blush:

Well, as you know, there is nothing wrong with my English.

I once collected a load at an unmanned yard at about 3am, with delivery paperwork that was ambiguous - one address northwards, one southwards. So I tried ringing the planner, no answer. After a good while, I made a decision on which address was the correct one and headed south - but to be on the safe side, I continued to call the planner every 20 minutes or so. They did answer eventually, about 2 hours later, and told me the correct address was north.

The planner whined angrily in a Lex Luthor style (or some other bad guy with a plan foiled by an incompetent minion) “youuu iiiidiot!” :laughing:

After turning back though, I heard no more about the matter, presumably because they accepted the paperwork was ambiguous and that somebody should have answered the phone sooner. In retrospect, I should have put my feet up instead, but tired and irritated that the one number I had was not being answered, I chose to go double or nothing.

They are funny stories but the root cause is organisational failure, not driver incompetence.

I love the way you phrase that mate. You were unsure which address to attend, so you picked one and it was wrong.

Yet it wasn’t driver incompetence? Lol.

Evening all, it’s been a long while since I posted anything, usually just have a quick browse every month or so but can I just say, I work with Stobarts doing Tesco work out of Widnes and there are a lot of rumours going round about us losing the contract. If we did (can’t say that they will or won’t I’m just a driver), but we would be the last to know. Have heard its DHL, XPO, in fact I’ve heard there’s 5 companies interested. How true that is I don’t know. What I do know is that DHL have just lost the contract for Iceland RDC in Warrington, XPO have taken over from them.
Everything else is just rumours until it gets made official either way.

eagerbeaver:
I love the way you phrase that mate. You were unsure which address to attend, so you picked one and it was wrong.

Yet it wasn’t driver incompetence? Lol.

No, because in the first place I was given ambiguous information - that was organisational failure number 1.

It’s some time ago so I can’t remember exactly what the problem was. It wasn’t a question of me misreading the documentation. Perhaps there were two delivery notes or something. I do recall that one of the addresses I had been sent to deliver to before - the other, never before.

But I didn’t just toss a coin and drive off, I sought advice from those in a position to verify my instructions. But they didn’t answer the phone despite several attempts at 3am - and clearly at that hour, I’m not calling for a chat. That breakdown in communication channels was organisational failure number 2.

How long was I supposed to wait for the phone to be answered? 8am? 9am? Would it ever be answered? Would they have preferred me to sit around rather than make a judgment? Or were they ignoring the phone (which had occurred on previous occasions)? It turned out the planners were intentionally ignoring it as a form of demand control.

Obviously, in hindsight I could have done more things on my own initiative that might have compensated for the organisation’s failings (including failings caused in consequence of its mistreatment of the planners), but that puts the cart before the horse.

When tired and mildly irritated, in an unfamiliar place on an unfamiliar run, without access to advice, and frankly already worn down by other experiences, the most straightforward thing to do was to make a decision on the address and head for it.

There was certainly no obvious alternative course of action which wouldn’t expose me to one or the other of suspicion or blame. In an organisation with so little mutual trust, the consequences of sitting tight and coming under suspicion of swinging the lead, may have been no better for me than taking a chance on the correct address and getting it wrong. Other courses of action, like driving to the nearest manned depot for help, would have been a plan too mentally demanding to conceive, let alone to execute - and such a depot may have been closed or unmanned itself in the middle of the night.

What I’ve really learned from experiences such as that, is just not to bother working for such firms in the first place, and what I hear is that Stobarts at Goole is suffering precisely this outcome en masse.

What you do mate, is ring a couple of times. Then you set the alarm function on your mobile phone to a time that is near the end of your shift.

Then you get on the bunk and go to sleep. If they ring back with an instruction, carry it out (if you want to).

Failing that, wake up, take your hand off your ■■■■ and drive back to the yard. Then go home.

And put your hand back on your ■■■■.

eagerbeaver:
What you do mate, is ring a couple of times. Then you set the alarm function on your mobile phone to a time that is near the end of your shift.

Then you get on the bunk and go to sleep. If they ring back with an instruction, carry it out (if you want to).

Failing that, wake up, take your hand off your ■■■■ and drive back to the yard. Then go home.

And put your hand back on your ■■■■.

I would do just that, exactly the same, but would draw the line on putting my hand on EagerB’s ■■■■. :smiley:

Problem? Can’t reasonable sort it yourself? Call office/24 hour number provided.

No response? Either go home (client failure to provide suitable instructions )and get paid 8 hours.

Errr … that’s it.

Tarrman:
Evening all, it’s been a long while since I posted anything, usually just have a quick browse every month or so but can I just say, I work with Stobarts doing Tesco work out of Widnes and there are a lot of rumours going round about us losing the contract. If we did (can’t say that they will or won’t I’m just a driver), but we would be the last to know. Have heard its DHL, XPO, in fact I’ve heard there’s 5 companies interested. How true that is I don’t know. What I do know is that DHL have just lost the contract for Iceland RDC in Warrington, XPO have taken over from them.
Everything else is just rumours until it gets made official either way.

That sounds the most plausible, most contracts that come up for tender will be tendered for by several of the bigger players, generally the one with the lowest price will win, that is the way it goes.

Again being a DHL employee I can’t state was has or hasn’t happened as I know only as much as the rest of you but either scenario is just as likely or as unlikely.

robroy:

eagerbeaver:
What you do mate, is ring a couple of times. Then you set the alarm function on your mobile phone to a time that is near the end of your shift.

Then you get on the bunk and go to sleep. If they ring back with an instruction, carry it out (if you want to).

Failing that, wake up, take your hand off your ■■■■ and drive back to the yard. Then go home.

And put your hand back on your ■■■■.

I would do just that, exactly the same, but would draw the line on putting my hand on EagerB’s ■■■■. :smiley:

Likewise, in that situation phone in until given correct details. When i was on the stobart side of the company there was a 24hr helpline. Phone that and relax until they contact you.

At no point would i feel the need to touch Rob or EBs ■■■■.

happysack:
At no point would i feel the need to touch Rob or EBs ■■■■.

Can’t speak for EagerB, but I can’t make my mind up whether to be offended or relieved. :laughing:

robroy:

happysack:
At no point would i feel the need to touch Rob or EBs ■■■■.

Can’t speak for EagerB, but I can’t make my mind up whether to be offended or relieved. :laughing:

If i touched it, you would possibly be, ahem, relieved [emoji110] [emoji97]

happysack:

robroy:

happysack:
At no point would i feel the need to touch Rob or EBs ■■■■.

Can’t speak for EagerB, but I can’t make my mind up whether to be offended or relieved. :laughing:

If i touched it, you would possibly be, ahem, relieved [emoji110] [emoji97]

You are definitely scaring me now. :neutral_face:

robroy:

happysack:

robroy:

happysack:
At no point would i feel the need to touch Rob or EBs ■■■■.

Can’t speak for EagerB, but I can’t make my mind up whether to be offended or relieved. :laughing:

If i touched it, you would possibly be, ahem, relieved [emoji110] [emoji97]

You are definitely scaring me now. :neutral_face:

Fear not petal. I jest. Old men do nothing for me, not even old forum tarts. And certainly notones with tarty curtains. [emoji6]

‘happysack’:
Fear not petal. I jest. Old men do nothing for me, not even old forum tarts. And certainly notones with tarty curtains. [emoji6]

Ok, I’m desypete’s ‘forum tart’ I suppose.
Tarty curtains? yeh that’s fair.
But Old man? :open_mouth: …how very dare you, I can still pass for 35, …ok admittedly on a dark night, but I aint written off yet…you, you, English Jock you. :smiling_imp:

DHL have taken the contract at Livingston but what that entails is the big question. It has always been a tesco site with stobarts in as a third party

I wonder who the five interested firms could be? Stobarts, DHL, XPO, and Wincanton I can think of, but I can’t think of anyone else. Turners, possibly even Waberers if they want a good price! :grimacing:

Maritime are getting big, but they won’t touch supermarket deliveries.

I was told by a source that Stobarts aren’t the cheapest haulier out there, and DHL can, and have undercut them in the past. Like it’s been said, Tesco will probably want a better service, for less money.

Rottweiler22:
I wonder who the five interested firms could be? Stobarts, DHL, XPO, and Wincanton I can think of, but I can’t think of anyone else. Turners, possibly even Waberers if they want a good price! :grimacing:

Maritime are getting big, but they won’t touch supermarket deliveries.

I was told by a source that Stobarts aren’t the cheapest haulier out there, and DHL can, and have undercut them in the past. Like it’s been said, Tesco will probably want a better service, for less money.

I’m sure maritime do the tesco stores at Milton Keynes,I may be wrong though.

robroy:

‘happysack’:
Fear not petal. I jest. Old men do nothing for me, not even old forum tarts. And certainly notones with tarty curtains. [emoji6]

Ok, I’m desypete’s ‘forum tart’ I suppose.
Tarty curtains? yeh that’s fair.
But Old man? :open_mouth: …how very dare you, I can still pass for 35, …ok admittedly on a dark night, but I aint written off yet…you, you, English Jock you. :smiling_imp:

Ooofff scathing