At the end of the day it is tattoo5984’s choice, if he he happy with it then good luck to you my friend, I hope it goes well.
We all have different commitments and finance obligations, like others have said there are some companies paying less.
If you are getting more driving a van or 7.5t, then think yourself lucky next time you decide to start moaning about your job.
I am sure there are many people out there who would like to be able to earn £500 per week plus, needs must! For those who are on more or who wouldn’t get out of bed for it, again think yourself lucky you are in that situation.
the nodding donkey:
ezydriver:
bjd:
lets say its 8 .53 so 13 hours =110.89 -23% = 85.39 +15.00= 100.39 + 23.00n/out= 123.30 x5 =616.00 take home so is that really that bad ?For a 65 hour week with everynight sleeping in a tin can? That’s terrible.
Without wishing to enter into the debate of wether we drivers get paid enough or not, I’d like you to show me a job, where you work 40 hrs a week, home every day, with minimal qualifications, where you take home £600+ per week.
He’s not working 40 hours a week. Looking at his working out, he’s factored in a 65 hour working week.
There are many jobs that compete with 8.53 an hour - almost all jobs do, in fact. Particularly factoring in that this is a straight-through rate for up to 15 hours, that start times can be early and irregular, which is unheard of in any other occupation.
I’m happy and I’m on less than that.
I am nuts though.
the nodding donkey:
ezydriver:
bjd:
lets say its 8 .53 so 13 hours =110.89 -23% = 85.39 +15.00= 100.39 + 23.00n/out= 123.30 x5 =616.00 take home so is that really that bad ?For a 65 hour week with everynight sleeping in a tin can? That’s terrible.
Without wishing to enter into the debate of wether we drivers get paid enough or not, I’d like you to show me a job, where you work 40 hrs a week, home every day, with minimal qualifications, where you take home £600+ per week.
McShift Manager, though you are expected to give up an hour on a Monday for a mangers meeting even if it’s not part of your planned shift.
bjd:
…new truck well looked after and maintained noyt expected to do anything illegal…
Biomass constantly run you out of hours when you have plans giving you two options - miss your plans or run bent.
General also do the whole we will make you run bent thing. They also don’t like admitting they’ve made a mistake and will pressure and unqualified driver to take a load of ADR and just claim they didn’t know it was dangerous goods.
Stobart Aggregate Industries, the one more pertinent to the OP’s case, sent me out with an XET trailer to do a full week on AI. (Which came to three brick and block runs and about six general jobs.) When I asked at the depot for ratchet straps as the side lockers were empty I was told they were in the roof of the trailer. A quick check in the back and there were 13 straps hanging from the roof of the trailer and as the whole combination was brand new, I went on my way.
First collection was a full load of concrete breeze blocks. Each pack weighed in at 1300kg. The straps, of which only 7 actually worked on this brand new vehicle, were only rated for 750kg so I phoned up the planners to let them know I had a problem. I was told, by the planner and the AI contract manager and the fleet manager that, and I quote, “750kg straps are enough because the curtains are EN-XL. Really the curtains by themselves are enough and the straps are just for safety. We’ve checked the rules.”
They really didn’t like it when I responded with the fact that I had read the rules too and for load restraining curtains to be a valid restraint the load needs to be a full fit. Whereas this load was 20 packs of concrete products with a sharp edges and a run up. I also argued the case that the AI Induction they had put me through the day before made it clear that this method of restraint wasn’t good enough. In the end I had to buy my own straps to do the job because Stobarts wouldn’t supply the right equipment. I lasted a week before I blacklisted every company with Stobart in the name.
If you get on an MOL trailer you should be OK. They appear to be run properly and have the right tools for the job. If you are stuck doing flatbed work on one of their XET curtainsiders, then you are in for a life of the occasional brick and block load followed by loads of Coke and Schweppes work, constantly trying to make ESL’s stupidity look intellegent with a truck and equipment which is such a compromise its wrong for every job, rather than being right for the job it was purchased to do.
Cant comment on rates, I was agency.
I’ve said it before and I’ll no doubt say it again. Eddie Stobart Limited and Stobart Group are the same. They are exceptional marketing companies that happen to own a few lorries. What they are not is a professional haulage company, not anymore. I’ve given three different types of Stobart a chance and each one has screwed it up so I have as little to do with them as possible. In fact if they didn’t own Widnes rail terminal, I’d have nothing to do with them at all.
I would rather go back to flipping burgers than go back to driving a Stobart wagon.
But its each to his own and the OP may find he gets lucky, gets a good wagon, a good planner, some good work and a good experience. If it might be for you, try it and find out. Not everybody is as judgemental and bitter as I am!
Going by all previous postings and replies about working for ES, T&C wages etc etc I wouldn`t think its anything special
the nodding donkey:
ezydriver:
bjd:
lets say its 8 .53 so 13 hours =110.89 -23% = 85.39 +15.00= 100.39 + 23.00n/out= 123.30 x5 =616.00 take home so is that really that bad ?For a 65 hour week with everynight sleeping in a tin can? That’s terrible.
Without wishing to enter into the debate of wether we drivers get paid enough or not, I’d like you to show me a job, where you work 40 hrs a week, home every day, with minimal qualifications, where you take home £600+ per week.
JLR factory drone. £42k p/a, 36 hours per week.
qualifications: GCSE maths and English.
nsmith1180:
[…] In the end I had to buy my own straps to do the job because Stobarts wouldn’t supply the right equipment. I lasted a week before I blacklisted every company with Stobart in the name.[…]
Cant comment on rates, I was agency.
Good god, you were on agency and bought your own straps?
I’d have required appropriate straps or equipment to be provided. ESL would be in a hell of a lot of trouble if they retaliated against you for standing your ground, because the law treats it as a “protected disclosure” whenever you raise a legitimate point that your job is not being organised to be safe and compliant with the law.
And for bosses who don’t give two hoots about trying to organise the work properly or comply with the law, then penalties (such as the failure to complete a job) are the only language they understand.
Though as you point out, it’s better just to blacklist Stobarts. 
Why is it Drivers work out their take home pay to include meal allowance a n/o money.
Take home pay is the money you have left after normal statutory deduction for the hours & bonus`s you have earned,not including allowances for meals or n/o
£500-600 is not good if it includes £100 plus of meal allowance and n/o money
Money is money
Would you not accept a job that paid 200 basic plus 1000 meal allowance per week?
maga:
Without wishing to enter into the debate of wether we drivers get paid enough or not, I’d like you to show me a job, where you work 40 hrs a week, home every day, with minimal qualifications, where you take home £600+ per week.
JLR factory drone. £42k p/a, 36 hours per week.
qualifications: GCSE maths and English.
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Well that’s most lorry drivers out of the running then…
Could someone pass me the bunker key, please? 
Is there actually really that much difference in pay in working for any of the big companies like Stobarts, Maritime, Wincanton, Downtons, Gregory’s etc? Say for a Monday - Friday tramper doing average 4 nights out some Saturdays on general haulage? just giving that working week and job as an example but would there be much difference in take home pay between them?
Why grumble about the Status Quo? If you want better try and look for it? upskill yourself? The rates for general haulage on any of the big companies aren’t suddenly going to see you on £1000’s a week so be content with your lot or try for better, don’t blame the beast.
RB84:
Is there actually really that much difference in pay in working for any of the big companies like Stobarts, Maritime, Wincanton, Downtons, Gregory’s etc? Say for a Monday - Friday tramper doing average 4 nights out some Saturdays on general haulage? just giving that working week and job as an example but would there be much difference in take home pay between them?Why grumble about the Status Quo? If you want better try and look for it? upskill yourself? The rates for general haulage on any of the big companies aren’t suddenly going to see you on £1000’s a week so be content with your lot or try for better, don’t blame the beast.
The “beast” in this case is low-pay employers who charge too little and pay too little, and displace those with decent pay and conditions. I’d feel quite content to blame the beast.
Well I did 0530 to 0830 yesterday on salary that works out@ £38.66hr after tax!!![emoji2] [emoji106]
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commonrail:
Money is moneyWould you not accept a job that paid 200 basic plus 1000 meal allowance per week?