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ncooper obviously doesnt haul up and down the a9 every week a good straight road if you run at 56 the cars tend to wait a little longer before they lose there patience sit at 40 and whatch the near misses as mr business man in the middle gets fed up and goes for it have lost count of the near misses i have seen any trucker will tell you this if safety is so important make everyone go at 40 or 50 or 56 problem solved .
No, you are quite right, I donât.
The question was should we sign a petition to have the 40 mph limit raised and I stand
by my original remarks.
I am sure that 56 mph is quite safe on the A9, just as it is elsewhere on good quality wide single carriageways.
My point is that at least with a theoretical 20 mph differential between trucks and cars,
overtaking for the cars should be easier and therefore safer.
What you are describing is nothing to do with speed limits, itâs just plain ordinary bad driving.
A â â â â behind the wheel is still a â â â â at whatever speed he/she is driving.
The solution to that is no overtaking, relatively rare over here compared to France and Spain.
Regards,
Nick.
Hi, if nothing else i have caused a discussion by asking people to sign the petition Increase the maximum speed limit for HGVâs on single carriageway A roads. I like some of you think 40mph is too fast on some roads. The government itself does not know what it is doing, it is limiting the white van men to i think 70mph with limiters and then proposing to raise the speed limit on motorways to 80mph to get them to go faster?. Thank you to the people that have signed he petition to Increase the maximum speed limit for HGVâs on single carriageway A roads
How many white van men know that they are restricted to 50 on a sc and 60 on a dc.
waddy640:
How many white van men know that they are restricted to 50 on a sc and 60 on a dc.
Probably the same number of L200, Nivara etc drivers
I agree with the sentiment that 40 is too slow on many roads but only because of the differential.
One of the things I appreciate, as now a car driver using single carriageway roads all over France, is the fact that all the lorries are restricted to the same as me, 90km/hr. Apart from hills I am quite happy to sit behind them as most have the power these days to keep up to the limit, and I appreciate the automatic kerb on my enthusiasm. 
However, I wonât be signing the petition as I donât live in that country and hardly ever visit it. 
Fallmonk:
you need to drive to the conditions !
couldnt agree more. raising the speed limit to 50 does not make it safe to drive at 50 in a truck between speed limit changes but there are stretches of road where it is safe to drive at that speed. they trust car drivers with wet ink on their licences to judge when the speed limit is too fast for the road or weather conditions yet dont trust professionals to make that same judgement? am i the only one who finds that insulting 
scanny77:
Fallmonk:
you need to drive to the conditions !couldnt agree more. raising the speed limit to 50 does not make it safe to drive at 50 in a truck between speed limit changes but there are stretches of road where it is safe to drive at that speed. they trust car drivers with wet ink on their licences to judge when the speed limit is too fast for the road or weather conditions yet dont trust professionals to make that same judgement? am i the only one who finds that insulting
That depends on your answer to the following question:
Have you seen some of the absolute â â â â â â â â â â â that drive trucks?
Experience doesnât always equal skill, and upto 44t can do a â â â â â â â lot of damage in the wrong hands.
I have always thought 40 mph on single carriageways was stupid. When I drove for Tesco union rules caused us to drive at whatever limits there was, not that I minded because it meant more hours and more money, however ⌠the lines of fustrated drivers behind me cause a lot of near misses as they tried to overtake. Driving at speeds according to the load and how it feels is far safer. To drive along the A5 for instance and constantly sitting at 40 mph with an empty trailer was riddiculous, 50 mph should be the limit.
Over here speed limits for trucks are the same as for cars on such roads and itâs a far safer situation. I could compare route 22A in Vermont to a B road, winding, twisty and narrow with a 50mph limit for every vehicle, you just use common sense. To say that it is unsafe is not true, you donât have to actually drive at the limit do you ? you just drive according to how safe your vehicle feels in conjuction with whatever load you are carrying. I drive along 22A witha fully loaded liquid tanker with no baffles and drive a 50 where it fells safe to do so, slowing for the bends to a safer speed and it causes less dangerous passing. On return trips I just drive at 50 all the way with my empty tank. In every other state than Vermont the speed limit on such routes is 55 or even 65 in some and it makes for safer roads.
Limiting trucks to 56 mph is extreemely dangerous.
I have never understood why coaches and buses can go faster than HGVâs 
waynedl:
scanny77:
Fallmonk:
you need to drive to the conditions !couldnt agree more. raising the speed limit to 50 does not make it safe to drive at 50 in a truck between speed limit changes but there are stretches of road where it is safe to drive at that speed. they trust car drivers with wet ink on their licences to judge when the speed limit is too fast for the road or weather conditions yet dont trust professionals to make that same judgement? am i the only one who finds that insulting
That depends on your answer to the following question:
Have you seen some of the absolute [zb] â â â â that drive trucks?
Experience doesnât always equal skill, and upto 44t can do a [zb] lot of damage in the wrong hands.
every group has its fair share of muppets but you cant judge the majority based on the actions of the minority. besides, how many accidents involving trucks are the result of someone elses mistake ie a car driver? we have all had near misses due to someone elses mistake (or arrogance) on every type of road and whether its 6 or 56 mph. accidents happen and the person at fault is not necessarily even involved. raising the speed limit for us is not going to transform us into professional driver killers and the evidence is out there right now breaking the 40 limit perfectly safely albeit illegally. just because its law does not make it correct
bubsy06:
I have never understood why coaches and buses can go faster than HGVâs
Yeah, crazy 1 that, a double deck bus with 70 people swinging from it can legally do 70mph, some are limited either by limiters or by the diff they run, but we had a year 2000 double decker thatâd do about 80mph and could legally do 70 on the motorway.
scanny77:
every group has its fair share of muppets but you cant judge the majority based on the actions of the minority.
I entirely agree. ButâŚ
âŚthis flies in the face of what any H&S bod will preach at youâŚthey always judge the majority on the actions of the minority!! 
An unstoppable machine guilty of the worst type of scaremongering, backed up by parasitic ambulance chasing lawyers⌠
Sorry! Off topic slightly⌠
You say you havenât been the same since you had your little crash
But you might feel better if I gave you some cash
The more I think about it, old billy was right
Letâs kill all the lawyers, kill 'em tonight
Eagles - Get Over It
well worth a listen pretty much sums it up
Piston broke:
scanny77:
every group has its fair share of muppets but you cant judge the majority based on the actions of the minority.I entirely agree. ButâŚ
âŚthis flies in the face of what any H&S bod will preach at youâŚthey always judge the majority on the actions of the minority!!
An unstoppable machine guilty of the worst type of scaremongering, backed up by parasitic ambulance chasing lawyersâŚ
Sorry! Off topic slightlyâŚ
we can be more realistic though as we are not trying to think up new BS rules to justify our titles and authority. objectivity is not much use to people like injury claim lawyers, H&S representatives, management or politicians so they have to fabricate claims and statistics to serve their own purposes
chicane:
You say you havenât been the same since you had your little crash
But you might feel better if I gave you some cash
The more I think about it, old billy was right
Letâs kill all the lawyers, kill 'em tonightEagles - Get Over It
well worth a listen pretty much sums it up
Bang on, ahead of their time for the UK, but the US was already a compensation nation by then
scanny77:
Fallmonk:
you need to drive to the conditions !
couldnt agree more. raising the speed limit to 50 does not make it safe to drive at 50 in a truck between speed limit changes but there are stretches of road where it is safe to drive at that speed. they trust car drivers with wet ink on their licences to judge when the speed limit is too fast for the road or weather conditions yet dont trust professionals to make that same judgement? am i the only one who finds that insulting
+1
Too many so call professional drivers on here talking BS. Iâve seen loads of post from professional drivers saying this speed for this kind of A road and a other speed for different kind of A roads. Along with this speed for loaded trucks and this speed for unloaded trucks. BLA BLA BLA, But at the end of the day âyou need to drive to the conditions !â If thats 20-30-40-50-56mph then its up to YOU as the âprofessional driverâ to make that decisions !!!
I am not interested in teararsing through the countryside at 50 or 60 mph and do not have a problem with 44tonne at 40mph on single carriageway roads.
All this mention of cable brakes is correct, in fact they were prestretched rod brakes and 28 tonne gross limits on 6 axles, with a trailer and trailer boy. Things have moved on, there are millions more vehicles on the roads,
I reckon if you are simply driving on your brakes, you are driving too fast for the conditions anyway.
It is quite poor that many professional drivers still cannot recognise a single carriageway road despite the many clues. The A74 was strictly 40mph for a long way in the 80âs, but journey times have not increased much since those days, despite the upgrades.
I shall not be voting in this petition or any other to raise the speed limits
Denis F:
merc0447:
11 signatures just another 99,989 signatures to trigger a debate in parliamentSign the Fair Fuel one at fairfueluk.com/ , it only needs 211 more signatures to trigger the debate
Just heard this has broken 100,000 signatures 