Speed limit for std cab Ford pick-up

Can anyone confirm exactly what the dual-carriageway speed limit is for Ford Ranger (or any make) long bed pick-up that does not have a double or 1/2 cab.
Reason i ask is someone piped up on a forum that its classed as a commercial and therefore should only do 60 mph, not 70.

A car derived van (in which category this will most likely fall) has the same speed limits as a car. So in the case of a D/C it will be 70mph unless otherwise posted.

And I’m piping up to confirm it! The only commercial vehicles allowed to drive to car speed limits are “car-derived”, I.E Corsa vans and suchlike, everything else is restricted to goods vehicle limits.
Bernard

the maoster:
A car derived van (in which category this will most likely fall) has the same speed limits as a car. So in the case of a D/C it will be 70mph unless otherwise posted.

No mate, a pickup is not classed as “car derived”, which basically means only vans based on a car bodyshell, Corsas, Astras, Fiesta, Partner, that sort of thing. Everything else, 60, 50 on a S/C.
Bernard

The Ford Ranger I drove had 5 seats as well as a cargo area.

check the log book to see if it registered as a commercial vehicle

You’re correct there Bernard, I couldn’t picture one in my head so opted for the car derived van one. My mistake. As an aside though all vans (unless limited) can legally match the car limit on a motorway.

Oh yard lad just got done on the a49 in the works transit van pick up at 65mph and it stated it was commercial

Can of worms this one, to benefit from car limits the pick up in question must be a dual purpose vehicle, which means it must have 4WD and be a twin cabbed design, if one of those conditions isn’t met it’s not dual purpose as defined by the act and is a normal commercial vehicle.

There’s other things in the legislation about the window area too but far too complicated to go into.

I know this as i had a twin cab Hilux a few years ago which was able to travel legally at car limits, and kept a copy of the relevant legalise i the vehicle just in case.

albion1938:

the maoster:
A car derived van (in which category this will most likely fall) has the same speed limits as a car. So in the case of a D/C it will be 70mph unless otherwise posted.

No mate, a pickup is not classed as “car derived”, which basically means only vans based on a car bodyshell, Corsas, Astras, Fiesta, Partner, that sort of thing. Everything else, 60, 50 on a S/C.
Bernard

This is correct, my wife has the speeding ticket to prove it !

Thanks Juddian and the OP for asking the question.
Something I’d often wondered myself.

thanks to everyone who has replied. Much appreciated.

I looked in the log book, its classed as a Light Goods Vehicle. So then it means 50mph on a single carriageway, 60mph on the dual carriageway and 70 on the motorway.

I was baffled, when I’ve just seen on the BBC series ‘A1 Britain’s Longest road’ when a 3.5T van driver got a ticket for doing 70mph on a dual carriage way. I thought that the speed limit below 3.5T is the same for all vehicles.But it looks it isn’t. What a ■■■■■■■■ is this.
You can drive a car classified vehicle with 70 mph on dual carriage way like the
Cadillac Escalade 6.0 V8 Hybrid Sport Luxury, Max. permissible mass: 3402 kg
but, you can not drive an another vehicle with the same parameters, cos it’s painted white,and has no windows at the back
Mercedes Sprinter WB2 313 CDI, Max. permissible mass: 3500 kg

So, if I would paint it black,and cut windows at the back, that would reduce the braking distance,and inprove the handling.It makes sense.
Another great law in place.

Other examples which are good to do 70mph,and same or similar GVW like the 3.5T Sprinter :

Hummer H2 SUT 6.2 V8 Luxury, Max. permissible mass:3490 kg
Toyota Land Cruiser V8 4.5, Max. permissible mass:3350 kg
Lincoln Navigator, Max. permissible mass:3300 kg
Mercedes GL 450 CDI 4Matic, Max. permissible mass:3250 kg
Land Rover Discovery SDV6 3.0 S, Max. permissible mass:3240 kg
Mercedes G 500, Max. permissible mass:3200 kg
Audi Q7 4.2 TDI quattro, Max. permissible mass:3115 kg

Richardjw1:
thanks to everyone who has replied. Much appreciated.

I looked in the log book, its classed as a Light Goods Vehicle. So then it means 50mph on a single carriageway, 60mph on the dual carriageway and 70 on the motorway.

tis is the correct answer. :grimacing: don’t forget your seat belts too, speed kills. :unamused: