Short term in Canada?

But you should be honoured to be mentioned in Gremmies post… He still ignores me! :grimacing:

newmercman:

Gremmie:
Then we have others pontificating on how great we all are that have survived the first few years, and that the natural selection method of survival of the trucking industry helps weed out the " weak and not so good immigrants" :laughing:

Pontificating? That’s a big word for you and spelt correctly too :laughing:

Unfortunately you used it out of context, what we (the self righteous) are doing is telling the other side of the story, that’s not pontificating, it’s called balance mate, it shows that it’s not all doom and gloom and even when it is, it’s still possible to come out a winner. None of us are claiming to be something special, yeah we’ve overcome a few obstacles to get to where we are now, we’re not looking for a pat on the back though, the reason we post is to show that it is possible to make it if you’re prepared to do what’s necessary :wink:

The “Pontificating” was aimed at the comment regarding the weeding out of the immigrants, not at those of us that try to offer balance to the likse of M Flyns one sided view of canada trucking.
Hope that cleared that misunderstanding up.

Gremmie:
The “Pontificating” was aimed at the comment regarding the weeding out of the immigrants, not at those of us that try to offer balance to the likse of M Flyns one sided view of canada trucking.
Hope that cleared that misunderstanding up.

Feel free to lie about my posts regarding Canada trucking if it makes you feel better, but I have offered plenty of balanced views in the past about ONE company in Canada, and I have said countless times I loved the job and the country!
I know you can’t spell, but surely you can read fairly well, or do you only see what YOU ASSUME I am writing?.

Brentanna:
you are allowed 10 driving cant go past 11th hour so if you drive for 8 hours from your start time have a nap wake up 4 hours later too ■■■■ bad you sitting because you are past the 11th hour on you days log. If you stick to 10 hrs total a day you never run out of time never have to do a reset.

Once again not true and way off the mark, see NMM reply :unamused: :unamused:

Gremmie:
Thats how i did it, well 95% of the time any way. And thats how i try to dispatch the trucks aswell, well 95% of the time any way :laughing:

So is that how you end up with a compliance review in May 2010 and safe stat scores like this
ai.fmcsa.dot.gov/SMS/Data/carrie … z1cxkR07Q= :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

dave_lol66:

Gremmie:
Thats how i did it, well 95% of the time any way. And thats how i try to dispatch the trucks aswell, well 95% of the time any way :laughing:

So is that how you end up with a compliance review in May 2010 and safe stat scores like this
ai.fmcsa.dot.gov/SMS/Data/carrie … z1cxkR07Q= :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

I’m not making excuses here just giving A few points that you dont know about these reports,

  1. any offence that is shown can only be removed from the file after 2 years, by applying in writing to the DOT. ie. a log book violation will remain in the system until the company applies to have it removed, this we only found out after an audit by the DOT so no older violations have been removed… This also applies to the tragic accident in California where a farther fell asleep at the wheel of his small panel truck, smashing @ 80mph into the rear of our parked truck killing his son. This fatel accident all tho no fault of our drivers is still on record affecting our record
  2. The drunk German driver is no longer with us, we as a company have no controll over what a driver does after he leaves the yard, the company policy is zero alcahol.
    Then their is the math involved in these % figures used by the DOT.
    Company A has only 6 trucks and get 2 minor log book infractions, there record will show 33%
    Company B has 600 trucks and get 100 minor log book infractions, there record will show only 16.5 %
    And yes i do dispatch so that the load can be done legaly, but if the driver chooses to run home from where ever like a mad thing I cant do mutch about it, and yes drivers have been reprimanded.

Gremmie:

dave_lol66:

Gremmie:
Thats how i did it, well 95% of the time any way. And thats how i try to dispatch the trucks aswell, well 95% of the time any way :laughing:

So is that how you end up with a compliance review in May 2010 and safe stat scores like this
ai.fmcsa.dot.gov/SMS/Data/carrie … z1cxkR07Q= :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

I’m not making excuses here just giving A few points that you dont know about these reports,

  1. any offence that is shown can only be removed from the file after 2 years, by applying in writing to the DOT. ie. a log book violation will remain in the system until the company applies to have it removed, this we only found out after an audit by the DOT so no older violations have been removed… This also applies to the tragic accident in California where a farther fell asleep at the wheel of his small panel truck, smashing @ 80mph into the rear of our parked truck killing his son. This fatel accident all tho no fault of our drivers is still on record affecting our record
  2. The drunk German driver is no longer with us, we as a company have no controll over what a driver does after he leaves the yard, the company policy is zero alcahol.
    Then their is the math involved in these % figures used by the DOT.
    Company A has only 6 trucks and get 2 minor log book infractions, there record will show 33%
    Company B has 600 trucks and get 100 minor log book infractions, there record will show only 16.5 %
    And yes i do dispatch so that the load can be done legaly, but if the driver chooses to run home from where ever like a mad thing I cant do mutch about it, and yes drivers have been reprimanded.

Certainly does sound like excuses, the drivers are, or were, after all full time employees of the company and as such the company is responsible for them.
Your other point about the math used by the FMCSA is a great point because company B with 600 trucks would expect 10x more inspections than company A with only 6 trucks thus making the end results equal :bulb: :exclamation: :exclamation: :unamused:

dave_lol66:

Gremmie:

dave_lol66:

Gremmie:
Thats how i did it, well 95% of the time any way. And thats how i try to dispatch the trucks aswell, well 95% of the time any way :laughing:

So is that how you end up with a compliance review in May 2010 and safe stat scores like this
ai.fmcsa.dot.gov/SMS/Data/carrie … z1cxkR07Q= :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

I’m not making excuses here just giving A few points that you dont know about these reports,

  1. any offence that is shown can only be removed from the file after 2 years, by applying in writing to the DOT. ie. a log book violation will remain in the system until the company applies to have it removed, this we only found out after an audit by the DOT so no older violations have been removed… This also applies to the tragic accident in California where a farther fell asleep at the wheel of his small panel truck, smashing @ 80mph into the rear of our parked truck killing his son. This fatel accident all tho no fault of our drivers is still on record affecting our record
  2. The drunk German driver is no longer with us, we as a company have no controll over what a driver does after he leaves the yard, the company policy is zero alcahol.
    Then their is the math involved in these % figures used by the DOT.
    Company A has only 6 trucks and get 2 minor log book infractions, there record will show 33%
    Company B has 600 trucks and get 100 minor log book infractions, there record will show only 16.5 %
    And yes i do dispatch so that the load can be done legaly, but if the driver chooses to run home from where ever like a mad thing I cant do mutch about it, and yes drivers have been reprimanded.

Certainly does sound like excuses, the drivers are, or were, after all full time employees of the company and as such the company is responsible for them.
Your other point about the math used by the FMCSA is a great point because company B with 600 trucks would expect 10x more inspections than company A with only 6 trucks thus making the end results equal :bulb: :exclamation: :exclamation: :unamused:

So if you and a few of your Penner buddies meet u and have a few beers with your evening meal, then get stopped the following morning with rest alchahol, who is to blame ■■ Penner or the driver ■■
And lets face it Penners rating aint no rosey picture either… ai.fmcsa.dot.gov/SMS/Data/carrie … JZjeirBA==

Gremmie:
So if you and a few of your Penner buddies meet u and have a few beers with your evening meal, then get stopped the following morning with rest alchahol, who is to blame ■■ Penner or the driver ■■
And lets face it Penners rating aint no rosey picture either… ai.fmcsa.dot.gov/SMS/Data/carrie … JZjeirBA==

When you take off your blinkers you will find that Penners actually has a very good rating, so glad you posted that link for others to compare good and bad :laughing:
Where have I ever blamed your company for anything, I said that they have to be held resposible NOT BLAMED for anything. I mean with 4 trucks registered with US DOT then it shouldn’t be too difficult to try and control your drivers should it :question: mmm obviously it is :laughing:
So glad you are making the effort to clean things up there though :wink:

Handbags at 20 paces then, gents? :wink:

:open_mouth: ummmm actually if a driver is no longer with a company the infractions are to be removed, after the specified time, no need to ask for their removal, those infractions stay on the drivers record not the companies only those which are found to be company breaches are locked in. At least that is what they told us before we wrote the exam. If a driver changes companies the new company doesnt get the infractions listed in their scores, but they remain on the drivers record for the specified times. As for U.S. hours of service I actually had a discussion with a DOT agent in North Dakota as to the rules after hearing conflicting thoughts on now it worked. He showed me that it states 10 hours driving, no driving after the 11th hour, Max day 14 hrs. That was righ out if his act and regs book.

Brentanna:
As for U.S. hours of service I actually had a discussion with a DOT agent in North Dakota as to the rules after hearing conflicting thoughts on now it worked. He showed me that it states 10 hours driving, no driving after the 11th hour, Max day 14 hrs. That was righ out if his act and regs book.

Well Brentanna me old son, read and weep :wink:

Rules related to hours of service in the USA:
Drivers may drive a maximum of 11 hours after 10 consecutive hours off duty.
A Driver may not drive beyond the 14th hour after coming on duty, following 10 consecutive hours off duty.
A driver may not drive after 60/70 hours on duty in 7/8 consecutive days.
A driver may restart a 7/8 consecutive day period after taking 34 or more consecutive hours off duty.
CMV drivers using the sleeper berth provision must take at least 8 consecutive hours in the sleeper berth, plus 2 consecutive hours either in the sleeper berth, off duty, or any combination of the two.

Rules related to hours of service in Canada:
No motor carrier shall request, require or allow a driver to drive and no driver shall drive after the driver has accumulated 13 hours of driving time in a day.
No motor carrier shall request, require or allow a driver to drive and no driver shall drive after the driver has accumulated 14 hours of on-duty time in a day.
No motor carrier shall request, require or allow a driver to drive and no driver shall drive after the driver has accumulated 13 hours of driving time unless the driver takes at least 8 consecutive hours of off-duty time before driving again.
No motor carrier shall request, require or allow a driver to drive and no driver shall drive after the driver has accumulated 14 hours of on-duty time unless the driver takes at least 8 consecutive hours of off-duty time before driving again.
No motor carrier shall request, require or allow a driver to drive and no driver shall drive after 16 hours of time have elapsed between the conclusion of the most recent period of 8 or more consecutive hours of off-duty time and the beginning of the next period of 8 or more consecutive hours of off-duty time.
A motor carrier shall ensure that a driver takes and the driver shall take at least 10 hours of off-duty time in a day.
Off-duty time other than the mandatory 8 consecutive hours may be distributed throughout the day in blocks of no less than 30 minutes each.
The off-duty time shall be at least two hours and may be added to the mandatory eight consecutive hours of off-duty time but cannot form part of it.
A driver may defer a maximum of 2 hours of the daily off-duty time to the following day if;
the off-duty time deferred is not part of the mandatory 8 consecutive hours of off-duty time;
the total off-duty time taken in the 2 days is at least 20 hours;
the off-duty time deferred is added to the 8 consecutive hours of off-duty time taken in the second day;
the total driving time in the 2 days does not exceed 26 hours; and
there is a declaration in the “Remarks” section of the daily log that states that the driver is deferring off-duty time under this section and that clearly indicates whether the driver is driving under day one or day two of that time.
An operator shall require that each driver follows either a 7-day or a 14-day cycle, as designated by the operator for the driver.
A driver who is following a 14-day cycle shall not drive again in that cycle after accumulating 120 hours of on-duty time during any period of 14 days or during the period beginning on the day on which the cycle was reset.
A driver who is following a 7-day cycle shall not drive again in that cycle after accumulating 70 hours of on-duty time during any period of seven days or during the period beginning on the day on which the cycle was reset.

Brentanna:
As for U.S. hours of service I actually had a discussion with a DOT agent in North Dakota as to the rules after hearing conflicting thoughts on now it worked. He showed me that it states 10 hours driving, no driving after the 11th hour, Max day 14 hrs. That was righ out if his act and regs book.

The DOT agent needs slapping then :unamused:

dave_lol66:

Brentanna:
As for U.S. hours of service I actually had a discussion with a DOT agent in North Dakota as to the rules after hearing conflicting thoughts on now it worked. He showed me that it states 10 hours driving, no driving after the 11th hour, Max day 14 hrs. That was righ out if his act and regs book.

The DOT agent needs slapping then :unamused:

Don’t they all :laughing: :laughing:

newmercman:

Brentanna:
As for U.S. hours of service I actually had a discussion with a DOT agent in North Dakota as to the rules after hearing conflicting thoughts on now it worked. He showed me that it states 10 hours driving, no driving after the 11th hour, Max day 14 hrs. That was righ out if his act and regs book.

Well Brentanna me old son, read and weep :wink:

I think Brentanna is a girl, she ,it, mentioned something about dropping a sprog soon :blush: :wink:

,it,

So I am an “it” am I that has to be the most insensitive thing a person can ever say about someone else. So much for any understanding god why do people have to be so ■■■■ ignorant. I am 11 weeks and into the second trimester but what does it matter to even try to explain anything , maybe it would be easier if they just kill all people who are born with birth defects that the ignorant population or society dont understand.

I thought we’d got over all that kind of stuff :unamused:

Brentanna slags off Big Freight and generally makes robbbie look like a fool, not that he needs much help, but anyway, as Brentanna has an intense dislike of Big Freight we, the more grown up members, welcome her as one of us, we throw in little things like my ‘old son’ reference and they are taken in good spirit, as they’re intended to be :wink:

Brentanna:

,it,

So I am an “it” am I that has to be the most insensitive thing a person can ever say about someone else. So much for any understanding god why do people have to be so ■■■■ ignorant. I am 11 weeks and into the second trimester but what does it matter to even try to explain anything , maybe it would be easier if they just kill all people who are born with birth defects that the ignorant population or society dont understand.

Wow !! haveing a bad morning sickness day today are we ■■
I also wrote she but that you managed not to see, and yes you could be an "it " like Anna in V :laughing: who at this moment is allso trying to have babies. All be it little green lizard type things, which I’ sure yours wont be. :blush:

Not to mention ■■■■■■■ curryfart off for loads of pages… :laughing:

My eternal admiration for that. You even managed to keep him on topic… Amazing!! :wink: :laughing: