Scum of the earth!

switchlogic:

merc0447:
3 nights in a row, time for the army?

The police clearly cant deal with this, they are no longer a deterrent. Innocent people/families are living above these shops that are being set on fire this is a disgrace.

I agree it’s time for the army ASAP

As above, the police are being overpowered by this. Get the army in to sort this out and crack skulls!!

Quite frankly if you decide to lob a brick, petrol bomb or anything else, decide to loot what ever you can get your grubby ■■■■■■■ hands on and set fire to shops/peoples homes then you should except consequences and if those consequences are a nightstick around the back of the head or rubber bullets then so be it! Zero tolerance in events like this is whats needed in my opinion.

BBC is now reporting that looting is going on in Birmingham. And Croydon is well alight now also!

■■■■■■■!! :imp: :imp:

Apparently Gavin from Autoglass is made up with all the overtime :wink:

Carryfast:
Seems to me that I’m getting blamed just because people can’t,or don’t want to,see or understand the obvious connections between all the (relevant) different aspects of history,which,contrary to RobK’s,kr79’s and switchlogic’s bs and dd’s accusations,that I’ve ‘actually’ referred to on this topic,and where those aspects have gone wrong,that have brought the zb place to where it is now. :imp:

Hi Carryfast,
I’m not sure it’s quite true to say that I accused you of anything, so I went back and had a look at my post. I see that I asked you a couple of questions, which you’ve unskillfully avoided (no surprise there) and I also suggested that “only you could join the dots on that lot.”

Then in another topic you wrote this:

Carryfast:
You seem to be good at making statements but not much good when it comes to justifying them with some reasons.

My questions still stand.
YOU joined the dots, and without becoming involved in the nitty-gritty of the discussion, I simply asked for your reasons, because I’ll openly admit that I couldn’t understand your logic. If you choose not to answer, or give evasive answers, then that’s fine as long as you accept that others may notice and comment on it.
It seems your own quote from the other topic has come back to bite you in the ■■■. :wink:

Carryfast:
So why not just change the forum rules to make it so that anyone who disagrees with RobK etc has their disagreements deleted :question: :smiling_imp: :unamused: .

Wouldn’t the reverse question be equally valid then? … should anybody who dares to discuss something you wrote be banned from answering?
IMHO, both propositions are as ridiculous as each other. :unamused:
There ya go, I’ve said my idea is ridiculous, now what do you think of yours?

Here’s a little theory that I’ve formulated:
If somebody posts a psychology/sociology thesis in answer to a post, the replies might turn out to be as lengthy as the thesis itself.

:bulb: I’d like to ask you another question… if somebody posts something on a public discussion forum, can they seriously expect it to go without being err… discussed ?

dieseldave:

Carryfast:
Seems to me that I’m getting blamed just because people can’t,or don’t want to,see or understand the obvious connections between all the (relevant) different aspects of history,which,contrary to RobK’s,kr79’s and switchlogic’s bs and dd’s accusations,that I’ve ‘actually’ referred to on this topic,and where those aspects have gone wrong,that have brought the zb place to where it is now. :imp:

Hi Carryfast,
I’m not sure it’s quite true to say that I accused you of anything, so I went back and had a look at my post. I see that I asked you a couple of questions, which you’ve unskillfully avoided (no surprise there) and I also suggested that “only you could join the dots on that lot.”

Then in another topic you wrote this:

Carryfast:
You seem to be good at making statements but not much good when it comes to justifying them with some reasons.

My questions still stand.
YOU joined the dots, and without becoming involved in the nitty-gritty of the discussion, I simply asked for your reasons, because I’ll openly admit that I couldn’t understand your logic. If you choose not to answer, or give evasive answers, then that’s fine as long as you accept that others may notice and comment on it.
It seems your own quote from the other topic has come back to bite you in the ■■■. :wink:

Carryfast:
So why not just change the forum rules to make it so that anyone who disagrees with RobK etc has their disagreements deleted :question: :smiling_imp: :unamused: .

Wouldn’t the reverse question be equally valid then? … should anybody who dares to discuss something you wrote be banned from answering?
IMHO, both propositions are as ridiculous as each other. :unamused:
There ya go, I’ve said my idea is ridiculous, now what do you think of yours?

Here’s a little theory that I’ve formulated:
If somebody posts a psychology/sociology thesis in answer to a post, the replies might turn out to be as lengthy as the thesis itself.

:bulb: I’d like to ask you another question… if somebody posts something on a public discussion forum, can they seriously expect it to go without being err… discussed ?

And you say you can’t understand my logic. :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused:

If I’ve read it right it was RobK who asked you to delete all of my posts and you said that you’re sorely tempted but the rules won’t let you do it :question: .I’ve not gone whining to you about deleting anyone’s posts concerning any of the bs arguments and comments they’ve made regarding what I’ve posted but I then said if you’re not happy then just do it anyway.Although I still can’t understand the reasoning behind all the bs.

I did join the dots and the logic behind it all is clear.In the context of my reference to the issues that applied at the time of integrationist bs legislation in the states there’s evidence which I’ve posted to show that it was the ethnic european white population in those states who (rightly) wanted to keep segregation from the ethnic black population and got branded as racists for doing so.The ethnic african black population wanted ‘integration’ with the ethnic european white population against the will of that population and eventually got what they wanted by force using the ethnic european white population’s police force to do it on the basis that anyone who disagrees is a racist.

Those police forces,like ours,only have themselves to blame now for the situations they keep finding themselves in concerning the contradiction of an ethnic european white police force trying to police an alienated ethnic african black population who’s idea of society is different to ours.

If you can’t understand how that directly had an effect on all future policies,both in the states and here,and how that has resulted in the situation that we’re in now,in which the white ethnic european police force here,can’t effectively do it’s job in ethnic african black majority areas,on the basis of policing by consent, that’s not my fault.The fact is that RobK has posted a bs argument that contradicts what is possible for the police to implement without causing even further issues and trouble and without exposing themselves to further unacceptable risks.However I did’nt at any time ask for his posts to be removed unlike he asked in the case of mine.

The fact is all of the continuing issues both in the states and here which followed the bs integrationist agenda started in the southern states of america during the 1950’s/60’s have shown that those who stood against it like in the video which I posted were correct.

By the way notice the difference between the peaceful methods of protest used by that ethnic european white so called racist population and those used during the continuing public unrest caused by the ethnic african populations every time that they feel they have a grievance.Ironically it seems that in this case that peacefully demonstrating ethnic european white population there then faced tougher police action,than the violent disorder that we’re seeing now caused by the ethnic african black population here now.No prizes for guessing why. :imp: :imp:

I’ve posted it again in case you missed it the first time.

youtube.com/watch?v=5z1NLMdpmc4

On the subject of statements without reason on the other topic I was referring to switchlogic’s bs saying I’m a very confused man.He did just make a statement and he did’nt provide any reasons.But if I’m so confused maybe I’ll get an answer from the experts like wheelnut,RobK,you or switchlogic as to why it is that old Surrey town of Croydon,now part of south London, ended up subject to a riot but Epsom,Caterham, Reigate,Leatherhead,Dorking and Guildford did’nt :question: :bulb: :imp: .

Your a very confused man Carryout

Carryfast:

dieseldave:

Rob K:
Dave, please delete every post by CF in this thread please. Sick of every thread being ruined by his irrelevant off topic BS.

Rob, I do agree with you (please trust me on this, :wink: ) and I am sorely tempted, but I can’t find a forum rule that allows me to do it. :frowning:

Seems to me that I’m getting blamed just because people can’t,or don’t want to,see or understand the obvious connections between all the (relevant) different aspects of history,which,contrary to RobK’s,kr79’s and switchlogic’s bs and dd’s accusations,that I’ve ‘actually’ referred to on this topic,and where those aspects have gone wrong,that have brought the zb place to where it is now. :imp:

So why not just change the forum rules to make it so that anyone who disagrees with RobK etc has their disagreements deleted :question: :smiling_imp: :unamused: .But assuming that RobK etc are right and the whole thing kicked off because of a load of bent scum coppers then how is it that they then want those same coppers to be allowed to carry on with causing even more trouble in de 'hood maan. :open_mouth: :unamused: :laughing:

Yet again here you are rambling on, making stupid replies and taking everything out of context. What a refreshing change… :unamused:

I’m sick to death of you ruining every ■■■■■■■ thread on this site with your endless off-topic BS about Alabama, blacks, Hitler, WW2, America, Jews, racism etc etc.

From this point on I am politely requesting that you do not reply to 1. any thread started by me, 2. any post made by me. I am not interested in ANYTHING you have to say so do us both a favour and stop wasting your time typing out replies. If you have anything about you, you will respect my wishes. Thank you.

Im sorry but if someone carry a gun or knife or anything in public that is illegal and intended to injure or kill someone then the police have a duty to protect thereselves and the genreal public :angry: its a case of you or them if you go armed for trouble :imp:

The london riots are a nightmare :cry: being at davies turner of dartford is another kind of nightmare :unamused:

From above
by Carryfast » Tue Aug 09, 2011 4:23 am

Carryfast:
I’ve not gone whining to you about deleting anyone’s posts

Also from above:
by Carryfast » Mon Aug 08, 2011 1:52 pm

Carryfast:
So why not just change the forum rules to make it so that anyone who disagrees with RobK etc has their disagreements deleted

Gotcha!!

Hook.jpg

Discuss!! :smiley:

Carryfast:
But if I’m so confused maybe I’ll get an answer from the experts like wheelnut,RobK,you or switchlogic as to why it is that old Surrey town of Croydon,now part of south London, ended up subject to a riot but Epsom,Caterham, Reigate,Leatherhead,Dorking and Guildford did’nt :question: :bulb: :imp: .

Carryfast

Without feeling the need to write a sociology/psychology thesis, I’d say that’s because some naughty people in Croydon fancied kicking off about something, whereas the people in the other towns you mentioned seem to be better behaved.

I’m no expert in such matters, but the answer does seem fairly obvious.

dieseldave:
From above
by Carryfast » Tue Aug 09, 2011 4:23 am

Carryfast:
I’ve not gone whining to you about deleting anyone’s posts

Also from above:
by Carryfast » Mon Aug 08, 2011 1:52 pm

Carryfast:
So why not just change the forum rules to make it so that anyone who disagrees with RobK etc has their disagreements deleted

Gotcha!!
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Discuss!! :smiley:

You’ve got nothing there.Like I said it’s RobK who did the whining and still is about having my posts deleted because I don’t agree with him and his ideas concerning the police.I did’nt whine about having his deleted.It’s you who said the forum rules won’t let you do as he asked.Not surprising considering that disagreeing with someone does’nt break any forum rules.So I then said (sarcastically) why don’t you change the forum rules so that anyone who disagrees with RobK about anything gets their disagreement removed. :bulb: Do you get it yet. :unamused: :unamused: :unamused:

dieseldave:

Carryfast:
But if I’m so confused maybe I’ll get an answer from the experts like wheelnut,RobK,you or switchlogic as to why it is that old Surrey town of Croydon,now part of south London, ended up subject to a riot but Epsom,Caterham, Reigate,Leatherhead,Dorking and Guildford did’nt :question: :bulb: :imp: .

Carryfast

Without feeling the need to write a sociology/psychology thesis, I’d say that’s because some naughty people in Croydon fancied kicking off about something, whereas the people in the other towns you mentioned seem to be better behaved.

I’m no expert in such matters, but the answer does seem fairly obvious.

You’re right the answer does seem fairly obvious and that (something) just happened to be an issue between the Met shooting one of their lot miles away in North London :smiling_imp: .But you can bet that if they do decide to continue the expansion of London and it’s population further out here into Surrey,and thereby change the ethnic demographics of the place like they obviously have in Croydon,then you will start seeing exactly the same problems in those places as Croydon is facing now.Because while the pc zb’s can force integration on us by using the bs so called ‘racism’ accusation they can’t use it to stop us from just zb’ing off and leaving the place to the different ethnic populations (and their commie supporters like Livingstone) that are already established in places like North and South London.

In which case it would then be Surrey Police not just the Met who would be the next ones on the list to face RobK’s wrath .That’s assuming they have’nt got the sense to zb off out of the place with us and leave it all to the Met to sort out just like they did in Croydon. :open_mouth: :unamused: :laughing:

But that’s what happens when you get northerners on here trying to tell us in the south how to deal with our own problems.So it’s not much different to those old issues in the states after all. :unamused: :unamused:

Carryfast:
In which case it would then be Surrey Police not just the Met who would be the next ones on the list to face RobK’s wrath

I think you’ll find it’s all police Rob is referring too and not just one particular force. They are all as bad as each other after all.

Carryfast:
Not surprising considering that disagreeing with someone does’nt break any forum rules.

Ahh, at last I see that you are capable of saying something in a straightforward and understandable way, and now that you’ve managed to do that I can reply that that was exactly my reason for not deleting anything you wrote.

Anyway, back to the topic and a point that you raised in your (IMHO) rambling and unconnected diatribes about liberal do-gooder integrationist policies etc.
What exactly would you now have society do about it?

:bulb: Please keep to a straightforward answer.

Coffeeholic:

Carryfast:
In which case it would then be Surrey Police not just the Met who would be the next ones on the list to face RobK’s wrath

I think you’ll find it’s all police Rob is referring too and not just one particular force. They are all as bad as each other after all.

Think you’ll find that there’s a big difference between the issues of policing an ethnic zb up like London and Surrey.But to my knowledge Surrey police don’t need any ‘advice’ by some bloke up north,who’s idea of all coppers is that they are all scum anyway,because there are’nt any issues of civil unrest going on here luckily,because we just have’nt got any large ethnic immigrant populations for them to have to deal with. :bulb:

However the Met are in the catch 22 of damned if they do and damned if they don’t although they are probably doing the right thing in just standing back where possible and let the thing burn itself out (pardon the pun) rather than adding fuel to the flames by shooting yet more of the ethnic african zb’s who are causing the problem. :bulb:

dieseldave:

Carryfast:
Not surprising considering that disagreeing with someone does’nt break any forum rules.

Ahh, at last I see that you are capable of saying something in a straightforward and understandable way, and now that you’ve managed to do that I can reply that that was exactly my reason for not deleting anything you wrote.

Anyway, back to the topic and a point that you raised in your (IMHO) rambling and unconnected diatribes about liberal do-gooder integrationist policies etc.
What exactly would you now have society do about it?

:bulb: Please keep to a straightforward answer.

Just look to the solution that had to be made in the former Yugoslavia.There’s no way that the ethnic Turkish muslim population would accept any type of integration with,or policing by,the ethnic Serbian population and vice versa and the only solution was segregation and if that had failed it’s my bet that there would’nt have been any peace until they’d repatriated all of the ethnic Turkish population back to Turkey.

So why is it that in that case the US and European governments did’nt view segregation,or possibly even repatriation if it came to it,as being racist,but they do when that same logic is applied concerning the ‘issues’ between the different ethnic groups in their own back yard :question: . :bulb:

But unfortunately all that we can probably hope for is yet more bs from the commie integrationist zb’s like Ken Livingstone and therefore more of the same. :imp: :imp: :unamused: :unamused:

Carryfast:

Coffeeholic:

Carryfast:
In which case it would then be Surrey Police not just the Met who would be the next ones on the list to face RobK’s wrath

I think you’ll find it’s all police Rob is referring too and not just one particular force. They are all as bad as each other after all.

Think you’ll find that there’s a big difference between the issues of policing an ethnic zb up like London and Surrey.

I don’t give a crap about issues, they are all scum regardless of the area they are in.

dieseldave:
Please keep to a straightforward answer.

Well that didn’t work did it. Told you he was a confused man.

If your are having a night out in London tonight park near the job centre the scum bag’s don’t know where that is

switchlogic:

dieseldave:
Please keep to a straightforward answer.

Well that didn’t work did it. Told you he was a confused man.

It was a straightforward answer but if you think I’m wrong maybe you can try to convince the Serbs and Bosnian Muslims to all integrate live happily ever after. :open_mouth: :unamused: :laughing: :laughing: