Rob K:
Dave, please delete every post by CF in this thread please. Sick of every thread being ruined by his irrelevant off topic BS.
Rob, I do agree with you (please trust me on this, 
) and I am sorely tempted, but I can’t find a forum rule that allows me to do it. 
You missed out 6x4 trucks and two stroke Bedfords and borderline pedophiles
The police should go in hard on rioters a few rubber bullets would help and go in hard and with tough sentencing on the whole gang culture crap
I’m actually rather disgusted with the police. Again last night they just seemed to stand by and let it happen. I think they should be coming down so hard on them they don’t know what’s hit them.
I blame lack of dicipline for the way people behave these days, that is where it all went wrong. And then those what get there kicks from causing trouble just add to the problems they dont even need an excuse to do that.
It seems that the bullet that caused all this to kick off was a police bullet in the radio, and gung-ho tactics probably killed Mark Duggan and he didn’t fire a shot. It is inexcusable to be carrying a gun and has inevitably caused his death. But I remember Brixton was started with a stabbing while police looked on. That was 30 years ago.
Haven’t we learned anything?
dieseldave:
Rob K:
Dave, please delete every post by CF in this thread please. Sick of every thread being ruined by his irrelevant off topic BS.Rob, I do agree with you (please trust me on this,
Seems to me that I’m getting blamed just because people can’t,or don’t want to,see or understand the obvious connections between all the (relevant) different aspects of history,which,contrary to RobK’s,kr79’s and switchlogic’s bs and dd’s accusations,that I’ve ‘actually’ referred to on this topic,and where those aspects have gone wrong,that have brought the zb place to where it is now. 
So why not just change the forum rules to make it so that anyone who disagrees with RobK etc has their disagreements deleted 
.But assuming that RobK etc are right and the whole thing kicked off because of a load of bent scum coppers then how is it that they then want those same coppers to be allowed to carry on with causing even more trouble in de 'hood maan. 
Rob K:
Rob K:
happysack:
i personally would be delighted for the police to go in as hard as possible. beat the scum and ask questions later. but the nancy brigade don’t allow that. it was the local people who were rioting and destroying their own area. fence them in and let the whole place burn.the whole upset is because a lowlife scumbag got shot…so rob k, were the police right or wrong in the first place for fatally shooting an ‘armed’ man?
i visited that area last year. parked overnight at coke, and went for a jog…believe me the place will look better this morning.
I never made any comment about that, but since you ask - and in reply to your question - I don’t know. The trouble is these days that the police are so corrupt with all their lies and looking after their own that I find it extremely hard believing anything that comes out of their mouths (which is later reported via the media channels). ASSUMING that the alleged “facts” we are being fed are correct, then yes I fully support the cops putting a bullet into him as that’s exactly what he [zb] deserved. However, like most stuff concerning the cops these days, I have the sneaking suspicion that there is more to this story than what we are being told.
Well well…
The Guardian:
The Guardian understands that initial ballistics tests on a bullet, found lodged in a police radio worn by an officer during Thursday’s incident, suggested it was police issue — and therefore had not been fired by Duggan.guardian.co.uk/uk/2011/aug/0 … ndon-burns
More blatant lies and deception from our “excellent” police force.
Yeah right so we’ve got a a load of bent coppers who were’nt even bright enough to put the right bullet,out of the right gun,into the zb radio.Or was it that one of those coppers was brave enough,but stupid enough, to stand there while one of his mates,who is a good shot,fired a police issue bullet,from a police issue gun,into his proven bullet proof radio,to make it look like they’d been fired on first by the miscreant.
Wheel Nut:
It seems that the bullet that caused all this to kick off was a police bullet in the radio, and gung-ho tactics probably killed Mark Duggan and he didn’t fire a shot. It is inexcusable to be carrying a gun and has inevitably caused his death. But I remember Brixton was started with a stabbing while police looked on. That was 30 years ago.Haven’t we learned anything?
Maybe it’s some of the so called ‘experts’ on here who’s only experience is living 100+ miles away from the ethnic zb up of London who need to learn something.
kr79:
You missed out 6x4 trucks and two stroke Bedfords and borderline pedophiles
Did’nt know that I’d made any reference to any 6x4 two stroke Bedford riot truck driven by a copper with an under 18 year old wife here 
.But you can bet if my relative’s husband was still alive he’d put you right about the fact that that there’s no such thing as a ‘borderline ■■■■■■■■■■’ and having a wife of that age does’nt fit that description ,and in the context of this topic a decent sniper rifle would have been a lot more use to him than the zb truck would have been.
kr79:
The police should go in hard on rioters a few rubber bullets would help and go in hard and with tough sentencing on the whole gang culture crap
Think you’ll find that it would take more than ‘a few rubber bullets’ if you want to face down the type of weaponry that the ‘whole gang culture’ would be facing you with and assuming that is that you’d have the bottle yourself to want to face that scenario armed with a few rubber bullets before telling some other poor mug to do it.
I was just generalising rubber bullets watercannons whatever it takes to stop the riots. Just talking to a guy at work who’s brother has a stall in Stratford them police have told the Market and shops to shut by five as they are expecting riots.
If they had gone in hard on the first night it may not have come to this the point is the scum of society black or White are not afraid of the police.
I suppose you would have the bottle to sort them out in your own.
Carryfast:
kr79:
You missed out 6x4 trucks and two stroke Bedfords and borderline pedophilesDid’nt know that I’d made any reference to any 6x4 two stroke Bedford riot truck driven by a copper with an under 18 year old wife here
Well you throw random crap in to most of your posts no matter what the thread is about so you may as well
kr79:
I was just generalising rubber bullets watercannons whatever it takes to stop the riots. Just talking to a guy at work who’s brother has a stall in Stratford them police have told the Market and shops to shut by five as they are expecting riots.
If they had gone in hard on the first night it may not have come to this the point is the scum of society black or White are not afraid of the police.
I suppose you would have the bottle to sort them out in your own.
If you and dd etc read what I’d wrote on the topic that’s one of the points I’ve been making in that unlike others on the topic I don’t exepect the coppers to do something that I would’nt want to do myself.
The issues of riots in the mainly ethnic African areas of London etc generally,historically,have had zb all to do with the ethnic european communities who in general have long since zb’d off out of those areas which is why there has’nt historically been similar types of civil unrest in other parts of the country where the ethnic African population is’nt in a majority.I grew up in a ethnic european area of Surrey close to London but not in London.The difference is contrary to the media bs we also had/have problems of unemployment,low wages and sometimes our fair share of ‘issues’ with the local police etc etc but that never resulted in any type of rioting or violence to get what we wanted.
You must have your head in the sand if you really think that the issue is’nt caused by the differences in ethnic attitudes towards policing and society if you really think that the issue applies the same in the (luckily still) ethnic european areas outside London as inside those ethnically different parts of that zb hole.The best way to deal with the problem is to have segregation and let them stay in their areas and we stay in ours with local policing that reflects the local ethnic majorities.If the zb’s want to riot after that zb em let em get on with it and let the local ethnically matched police forces deal with their own problems. 
I never said it was or wasnt racial but was just pointing out this country has a underclass of scum with no respect for law or society who deserve to be dealt with harshly
kr79:
I never said it was or wasnt racial but was just pointing out this country has a underclass of scum with no respect for law or society who deserve to be dealt with harshly
The problem with that idea is that what often happens is that the law then just applies that idea literally and does’nt differentiate between the issue of indiscriminate rioting and mugging etc etc caused by the real trouble makers and violent criminals such as in this case and everyone else and/or different types of crime and punishment.So you end up with the situation like the train robbers getting 30 year + sentences while the ethnic African lot would be shouting about unfair treatment and their civil riights if they got that long for chopping someone up with a machete or shooting someone to nick a mobile phone.
But it’s dd and RobK who want the issue kept on topic and in this case it’s all the about the issue of a specific type of crime and criminal behaviour which is generally a feature only found in those parts of London with specific non european ethnic majorities not parts of Surrey like Leatherhead,Guildford or Dorking.
3 nights in a row, time for the army?
The police clearly cant deal with this, they are no longer a deterrent. Innocent people/families are living above these shops that are being set on fire this is a disgrace.
Its been brewing for years and its the fault of sucessive governments and do gooders and poor policing to blame. If a type of crime is largely commited by one ethnic group thats who you target thats common sense not racism.
merc0447:
3 nights in a row, time for the army?The police clearly cant deal with this, they are no longer a deterrent. Innocent people/families are living above these shops that are being set on fire this is a disgrace.
I agree it’s time for the army ASAP
kr79:
its the fault of sucessive governments and do gooders. If a type of crime is largely commited by one ethnic group thats who you target thats common sense not racism.
Now you’re starting to get it.But the question is who do you mean by ‘you’ and ‘they’ won’t see it that way if you send in an ethnic european force to stop them.But yeah right I left school with no qualifications and was (very) lucky to find a job and then was’nt paid a fortune when I did etc etc.But the difference is I’m not an ethnic African and I’m lucky enough to have always lived in a part of Surrey that has’nt been handed over (yet) to the pc London zb’s and their idea of a multicultural City,unlike zb Croydon.
