Numbum:
Hello Marcus. I have dried out now from Sunday. I think a few bits have shrunk though as the weather is not that cold.
For those at Gaydon on Sunday imagine this Scammell arriving at the 1965 show.
Phil.
that Foden demo looks like a Warrington Commercial Vehicles motor (St. Helens plate - they were located where Haydock Commercials are now) and just brought back a really fond memory of the lovely chap that used to deliver spares for them (was his name Bernard?) sadly he had an accident whilst doing his job (on the Thelwall Viaduct I think back in the 80’s) which took his life. Lovely man bless him
classicman:
For those of you who were at Gaydon 10years ago 2001, we did have one.
hiya,
I remember Killingbecks running one or two these ex-Shell tractors, these where run as general haulage motors and had the Leyland engine remember them being prepared and painted one thing that sticks in my memory (not much does) was the pin was on the unit was this to prevent the tank trailers from picked up by a bog standard unit, obviously they had to be altered to a normal 5th wheel set-up i drove one for a while and being ex-Shell they had been well maintained and the inside of the cabs was very tidy.
thanks harry long retired.
classicman:
For those of you who were at Gaydon 10years ago 2001, we did have one.
hiya,
I remember Killingbecks running one or two these ex-Shell tractors, these where run as general haulage motors and had the Leyland engine remember them being prepared and painted one thing that sticks in my memory (not much does) was the pin was on the unit was this to prevent the tank trailers from picked up by a bog standard unit, obviously they had to be altered to a normal 5th wheel set-up i drove one for a while and being ex-Shell they had been well maintained and the inside of the cabs was very tidy.
thanks harry long retired.
I used to drive a 1952 Scammell with a tar tank trailer when I started driving in 1965. Most of these Scammell trailers had no legs to drop them off. I cant remember where the pin was but there was a square plate under the belly of the tank and we used to use a length of pipe and a trolley jack under this plate to lift the trailer off the unit. The trailer brakes were worked by a rod and I think this automaticly uncoupled. The trailer turned on a ring of material like a clutch plate linning. Once the unit was out the way we dropped the trailer onto two 45 gallon drums an an old railway sleeper.
Used to take it to a quarry in the mendips with the entrance on a steep hill the width of the lorry. Used to stop at the top and open the door in case the brakes failed as it would have been hard to jump out anyway with two handbrakes in the way.
Phil
classicman:
For those of you who were at Gaydon 10years ago 2001, we did have one.
hiya,
I remember Killingbecks running one or two these ex-Shell tractors, these where run as general haulage motors and had the Leyland engine remember them being prepared and painted one thing that sticks in my memory (not much does) was the pin was on the unit was this to prevent the tank trailers from picked up by a bog standard unit, obviously they had to be altered to a normal 5th wheel set-up i drove one for a while and being ex-Shell they had been well maintained and the inside of the cabs was very tidy.
thanks harry long retired.
Hi Harry I did a bit of research on the old Scammells a couple of years or so ago as I drove a highwayman which you had to jack the trailer up to uncouple the trailer and I came up with It was Scammell’s heavy duty coupling fifth wheel and as you say the pin was on the circular dish on the tractor and about 3" diameter and what we did was to chalk mark where the drive wheel was before jacking the trailer up so it gave you a good guide for re-coupling in the morning as we had to leave wide and heavy loads in lay bye’s lamped off and you had to be spot on to lower the trailer back onto the pin as you did not want to be jacking 30 to 40 ton up more than necessary and all our trailers were Scammell steel deck low loaders.
cheers Johnnie
P S the first highwayman with a fifth wheel 2" pin we had at Sheffield was a “E” reg. and full air brakes and air assisted clutch what luxury we had a “D” reg. with the old type on
Some of the tanker operators ran Scammell Highwaymen permanently coupled IIRC.Shell was one and Cowburn and Cowpar out of Trafford Park was another.There were no landing legs on the trailers,I am just owd enough to remember them.
Chris Webb:
Some of the tanker operators ran Scammell Highwaymen permanently coupled IIRC.Shell was one and Cowburn and Cowpar out of Trafford Park was another.There were no landing legs on the trailers,I am just owd enough to remember them.
That would be because the trailer would have to be jacked up off of the pin on the unit Chris and tanks were not made for jacking up
cheers Johnnie
classicman:
For those of you who were at Gaydon 10years ago 2001, we did have one.
hiya,
I remember Killingbecks running one or two these ex-Shell tractors, these where run as general haulage motors and had the Leyland engine remember them being prepared and painted one thing that sticks in my memory (not much does) was the pin was on the unit was this to prevent the tank trailers from picked up by a bog standard unit, obviously they had to be altered to a normal 5th wheel set-up i drove one for a while and being ex-Shell they had been well maintained and the inside of the cabs was very tidy.
thanks harry long retired.
Hi Harry I did a bit of research on the old Scammells a couple of years or so ago as I drove a highwayman which you had to jack the trailer up to uncouple the trailer and I came up with It was Scammell’s heavy duty coupling fifth wheel and as you say the pin was on the circular dish on the tractor and about 3" diameter and what we did was to chalk mark where the drive wheel was before jacking the trailer up so it gave you a good guide for re-coupling in the morning as we had to leave wide and heavy loads in lay bye’s lamped off and you had to be spot on to lower the trailer back onto the pin as you did not want to be jacking 30 to 40 ton up more than necessary and all our trailers were Scammell steel deck low loaders.
cheers Johnnie
P S the first highwayman with a fifth wheel 2" pin we had at Sheffield was a “E” reg. and full air brakes and air assisted clutch what luxury we had a “D” reg. with the old type on
hiya,
Thanks for that Johnnie, my memory hasn’t totally gone i knew the old Scammell heavy haulers was rigged that way i did have to swap things about when a lad and remember having to do a lot of jacking stuff up and down and much use of sleepers and twelve x twelves, although my days as an abnormal indivisable driver was although hard and slow, they was very happy and interesting.
thanks harry long retired.
And the orchestra strikes up with Auld lang Syne,followed by “this old rocking chair” which “H” is sat in,large glass of you know what in his hand!!! Anon1
Bewick:
And the orchestra strikes up with Auld lang Syne,followed by “this old rocking chair” which “H” is sat in,large glass of you know what in his hand!!! Anon1
hiya,
Well Dennis one out of two is acceptable no rocking chair I’m afraid, but spot on with the drinky poos, cheers hic hic.
thanks harry long retired,.
Muckaway:
I’ve had loads of problems recently viewing Bubbs’ pics but tonight, they’ve all appeared without too much clicking of red x’s…
I’ve put this wagon on here in the hope that someone knows who’s bought her. I think Dave the Renegade knows someone who knows the new owner, and it’s been preserved.
Is that Andrews old motor?
Found out from Andrew today that the new owner’s contacted Smiths for info and photos of her when new; Apparently going to be restored in Smiths’ colours for shows
Muckaway:
I’ve had loads of problems recently viewing Bubbs’ pics but tonight, they’ve all appeared without too much clicking of red x’s…
I’ve put this wagon on here in the hope that someone knows who’s bought her. I think Dave the Renegade knows someone who knows the new owner, and it’s been preserved.
Is that Andrews old motor?
Found out from Andrew today that the new owner’s contacted Smiths for info and photos of her when new; Apparently going to be restored in Smiths’ colours for shows
Paul Griffiths knows who has the unit Nathan.I will try to remember to ask him next time I see him.
Cheers Dave.
Thanks Dave, my Uncle who came to Gaydon had that lorry new so he’d know a few things about it’s history; Like the wrong 5th wheel being fitted and it becoming apparent when the low loader trailer wouldn’t co-operate
Muckaway:
Thanks Dave, my Uncle who came to Gaydon had that lorry new so he’d know a few things about it’s history; Like the wrong 5th wheel being fitted and it becoming apparent when the low loader trailer wouldn’t co-operate
Is that Smiths drivers “local” in the background Nathan? Who’s beer is it? Hic! Cheers Dennis.
Muckaway:
Thanks Dave, my Uncle who came to Gaydon had that lorry new so he’d know a few things about it’s history; Like the wrong 5th wheel being fitted and it becoming apparent when the low loader trailer wouldn’t co-operate
Is that Smiths drivers “local” in the background Nathan? Who’s beer is it? Hic! Cheers Dennis.
Believe it or not that’s where it all began Dennis. The Smith family ran it as tenants for years, what with the boat traffic on the canal and Bletchington Station just behind. It does get used by the drivers especially when someone retires. Smiths took over Enslow Mill which stood a little behind the pub (the weir is now a picnic area for office staff) and I gather all the houses in Enslow (about 6 or 7) are owned by Smiths aswell…
I said hello to Wolfman at Gaydon, as I didnt realise it was him last year but didnt know Bubbs was there. My table was the 1:76 layout with a coach garage, truck stop and small Stobart Events depot. It was amazing that every kid who walked past pointed out the Eddie depot to their dads. Amazing what a small TV programme can do for publicity.
Muckaway:
Callum (Mini-Muckaway) browsing an old copy of Tired and Disheartened
He also had a look at Classic Vehicle Comic…
Got a pair of his Dads jeans on as well I see,I wonder if those boots “on the bonnet” would fit him ? probably would I think!! Best Wishes to the little Fella.Dennis.
