harry:
'orrible trailer configuration,drawbar too short,wheelbase too long.Keep the truck -dump the trailer.
Correct proportions of lorry and trailer- how about this?
My 141,
Rowland.
Roland, that’s a very nice restoration, a lot of work obviously went into that, do you have pictures as you got it and as the work was being done?
There are a few pics of it in progress on my Volvo F89 parts wanted thread.
Rowland.
very very nice Rowland !
wow wow & wow again, now thats a proper job 
cheers
gaz
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anorak:harry:
'orrible trailer configuration,drawbar too short,wheelbase too long.Keep the truck -dump the trailer.Correct proportions of lorry and trailer- how about this?
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Tri-lex wheels!!!..Aaaaaargh!!!
harry:
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anorak:harry:
'orrible trailer configuration,drawbar too short,wheelbase too long.Keep the truck -dump the trailer.Correct proportions of lorry and trailer- how about this?
Tri-lex wheels!!!..Aaaaaargh!!!
What’s wrong with Trilex wheels, for God’s sake? Here’s another, sufficiently grainy to obscure any evidence of wheel detail!
Alternatively:
Once those cleats get worn you are in all kinds of trouble.You have to tighten 'em every day & when you slam the brakes on the star stops & the rim keeps on rolling chopping off valve to the tube & then having to buy a new star! All this rubbish has happened to me on a regular basis ,especially when I was on a tight schedule. Wore a star out on the Ardennes & had to pay for a van to go to Germany for a spare .Lost a whole day for nothing.
Why were they fitted? They seemed popular in Italy and Switzerland. I can only think that it made replacement of the tyre and tube easier on the road, with no (in theory) need for levers/hammers. I wonder if they were appreciated by the fitters who worked on this tipper?
Not quite grainy enough though mate , i reckon they disc wheels on that Hungarocamion
I reckon you’re right. They must have had spoked ones on the trailers only. Here’s an even grainier pic though, if you’re interested:
I think these lorries look just about perfect- long wheelbase 6x4, long-pin trailer, trailer axles there, where they are. Good for traction and maneouvring, compared to other configurations. Form following function, in my view at least. The French can mettez leurs remorques triaxles dans la derriere, as far as I am concerned.
If I am not mistaken, Fridged Freight used similarly-dimensioned vehicles- what was the inspiration behind this, considering that most British artics around 1970 used short tractors and short-pin trailers?
the inspiration was the fact that with the lift axle there was no weight penalty and you were not paying for the fuel to churn the axle round and get not much better traction than with a lift axle (on most normal roads anyway).I never had a problem with a lift axle not providing sufficient traction, although i realise that double drive would have been preferable to a lift in some heavy haulage applications.we got along fine with the lift and i think that most of the general transport vehicles would have been on a “lift”. There were a lot of “Robson” drives about but i never used one myself so can’t comment on them. For haulage on normal surfaced main roads why waste fuel turning an extra axle round ?
My thought on it anyway.
Bill
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Thanks Bill. I would have to agree, having seen the fallout from pevious discussions about double vs. single drives on these forums! I was also interested in the use of the LWB tractors and long-pin trailers that FF had- this seemed to be more Scandinavian than British.
Anyway, here’s another 3.4m 6x2 140 I found on another forum:
I know a lot of work and money went into that replica Astran 141, but I reckon it would look a million times better with a healthy dose of ‘just back from a trip’ dirt over it 
newmercman:
I know a lot of work and money went into that replica Astran 141, but I reckon it would look a million times better with a healthy dose of ‘just back from a trip’ dirt over it
I always think that Myself Mark a ditry line of overland dirt would set it right off, I think that of most restorations though, better to look like a working motor than a toy. Oh well each to there own I suppose.