Saviem's fan club (Part 1)

Fergie47:

robert1952:
I love the atmospheres sur la route that these pictures evoke. Well, I’ve dug out some old scrapbook pages to help you to bask in French routier culture. Enjoy! Robert

Nice find there Robert…Some long shots of trucks can reveal some interesting and nostalgic glimpses into the past, like old restaurants, cafes, warehouses and scenery…

There’s a nice shot of the RN10 Vivonne tucked away there. It shows it how it used to be, with the (foot?) bridge over the road, before they upgraded it all. You used to have to keep your wits about you on that leg between Tours and Bordeaux - all changed now. Robert

Mrs Fergies just popped out to the shops, so when the cats away…!!!
Here’s a few bits and bobs, truck related, similar to Roberts last post…

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Few more.

Wife’s back, definitely gotta go…

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Love the Renault at Mt St Michel! Robert :smiley:

robert1952:
Love the Renault at Mt St Michel! Robert :smiley:

You couldn’t do that today, you can’t get within 3 kms now, you can go by autobus ( free) or walk, the days of parking your truck ( which I’ve done ) car, or bike, are all long gone, its a pain in the nether regions, they’ve completely screwed it up…no more free publicity shots… :cry:

The wagon belongs to STEF, they’ve a big cold store and transport yard in the docks at Lorient, went past it yesterday on the way to the Celtic music festival there.

Fergie47:

robert1952:
Love the Renault at Mt St Michel! Robert :smiley:

You couldn’t do that today, you can’t get within 3 kms now, you can go by autobus ( free) or walk, the days of parking your truck ( which I’ve done ) car, or bike, are all long gone, its a pain in the nether regions, they’ve completely screwed it up…no more free publicity shots… :cry:

The wagon belongs to STEF, they’ve a big cold store and transport yard in the docks at Lorient, went past it yesterday on the way to the Celtic music festival there.

In the early '90s had an old double-decker bus for a while (to live in) and I visited the Celtic music fest at Lorient with it AND visited Mt St Michel! Robert

robert1952:

Fergie47:

robert1952:
Love the Renault at Mt St Michel! Robert :smiley:

You couldn’t do that today, you can’t get within 3 kms now, you can go by autobus ( free) or walk, the days of parking your truck ( which I’ve done ) car, or bike, are all long gone, its a pain in the nether regions, they’ve completely screwed it up…no more free publicity shots… :cry:

The wagon belongs to STEF, they’ve a big cold store and transport yard in the docks at Lorient, went past it yesterday on the way to the Celtic music festival there.

In the early '90s had an old double-decker bus for a while (to live in) and I visited the Celtic music fest at Lorient with it AND visited Mt St Michel! Robert

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Small world eh, that could be me on your left ,on my old Bonnie…whoops. Hondawakiuki thingy… !! :wink:

The rare F 12 “Chinese six” of STG which Saviem spoke of.

STG was rewarded with the keys of the 1000 FH in France in 1994, more than 20 years ago !

Evening all,

What a cornucopia of superb French haulage operations, and vehicles, thank you Fergie, Robert, Buzzer, michel , and Pete…for the stuff closer to home…(yes that is Tony by the Big J). They bring back so many memories, the wonderful integral fridge bodied 6x2s, from the works of Chereau, Pelpel, Cottard, and Tuel and Gourmelen, so beloved of the operators from from Britagne. Big horsepower, for the rapid movement of the perishable cargo.

Mont St Michel, now that was a favourite backdrop for anything “special”, that we wished to photograph…an easy trip down from Blainville…and good food at the end of the day! Somewhere there must be a copy of the shot that we used for the SM300 V8, rumbling back across the causeway with the tide just coming in, spray bursting all around the white outfit…found its way onto many office walls did that one!

Fergies STEF R serie fridge outfit with Mont St Michel in the background, wears the original livery of Guy Galopins Transports Frigorifique European TFE operation. STEF, (Soc Transports & Entrepots Frigorifiques), is an interesting operation founded back in the 1920s. Bought by the French Railways in the late 30s It absorbed in the 90s, Guy Galopin, Michel Sancier and Robert Diemerts TFE, Having during the 70s taken over, Britagnes largest operator, Louis Melodo, and Delanchys Britagne Transports, & Almasse et Boule…prime transporter of that most excellent “President Brie”…plus the rump of Michel Hurels refrigerated operation. STEF, today is arguably perhaps one of Europes largest totally refrigerated transport operations.

But perhaps I could go back to the start of this wonderful “magic lantern show”, and the Saviem JM240 of 1965 in the distinctive livery of VIT, (Valenton International Transports), of Valenton, Val de Marne Powered by a MAN 2146 HM4F 240 hp 6 cylinder, and fitted with the 840 serie sleeper cab. As you realise those photographs were “posed” for Saviem publicity work…But the work that those vehicles did was genuine and hard…the Paris- Naples run was a service that ran like a bus timetable…as did their other traffic, be it Iraq, Iran, or Nigeria…

French operators who were engaged in this type of activity gained a status far outside the industry itself , for in France in the 70s there was the phenomen of Max Meynier, and his Radio show, Les Routiers sont Sympa, and the population became aware of the depravation, and romance that long distance road haulage, both within Europe, and beyond entailed.

I was fortunate to have business dealings with VIT, Onatra, Chapuis, and Annemasse`s finest, Stouf…and yes Fergie, there are many tales to be told, of the companys, their traffic, the personalities, and the equipment…but you asked me about VIT…

What a company…from the delightful “Mimi” (Michelle), who was everyones first contact with VIT…but how many haulage operations do you know who had film stars on their payroll?

Well in the case of VIT, they had three. In `76, the film and television producer Maurice Cloche, had the idea of producing a TV drama series about a young, and struggling transport company engaged in "make or break " traffic to the middle east. The male leading role was cast to Jean Pierre Castaldi, and the female to the delightful Dora Doll, as Jean, and Rose Dupuy. Music…and quite good at that was by Jo Moutet…Vehicles …by us…the unlikely combination of a JP13 box van, and a SM280TU 4x2, and Savoyard tilt…plus a couple of actual VIT working vehicles on the run to Bagdad.

Three VIT drivers were used, the camera work was excellent, with evocative shots from the trailer bogie, real wheel changing on the roadside, plus actual filming in the Turkish mountains. So good was the potential that , (if I remember correctly), six episodes of about 50 mins were talen up by ORTF 1, and received a great response. Les Hommes de Rose, went out in `78…and I expect that there may be an episode or two lurking in the depths of these machines for those interested!

I suspect that Fergies pictures, 3,4, &5 are stills from Les Hommes de Rose, but the publicity did VIT a lot of good…but then of course Tpts Chapuis, had the author of Chien Perdu en Arabie, Andre Mariette working for them…a real heart breaker of a book…and there was always the big argument about who really was the first to go to Lagos and back, via the Sahara, was it Andre -Henri Hernandez, for Chapuis, in a Saviem 6x4 SM340VT, or Jean Gerard Dean in another SM for VIT…

Lovely people, lovely companys, and loads of memories…now there was the" big" …order for TRs from Stouff`s…there is a story…

Cheerio for now…and thank you.

Saviem JM240 in Brittany.

Saviem:
Evening all,

What a cornucopia of superb French haulage operations, and vehicles, thank you Fergie, Robert, Buzzer, michel , and Pete…for the stuff closer to home…(yes that is Tony by the Big J). They bring back so many memories, the wonderful integral fridge bodied 6x2s, from the works of Chereau, Pelpel, Cottard, and Tuel and Gourmelen, so beloved of the operators from from Britagne. Big horsepower, for the rapid movement of the perishable cargo.

Mont St Michel, now that was a favourite backdrop for anything “special”, that we wished to photograph…an easy trip down from Blainville…and good food at the end of the day! Somewhere there must be a copy of the shot that we used for the SM300 V8, rumbling back across the causeway with the tide just coming in, spray bursting all around the white outfit…found its way onto many office walls did that one!

Fergies STEF R serie fridge outfit with Mont St Michel in the background, wears the original livery of Guy Galopins Transports Frigorifique European TFE operation. STEF, (Soc Transports & Entrepots Frigorifiques), is an interesting operation founded back in the 1920s. Bought by the French Railways in the late 30s It absorbed in the 90s, Guy Galopin, Michel Sancier and Robert Diemerts TFE, Having during the 70s taken over, Britagnes largest operator, Louis Melodo, and Delanchys Britagne Transports, & Almasse et Boule…prime transporter of that most excellent “President Brie”…plus the rump of Michel Hurels refrigerated operation. STEF, today is arguably perhaps one of Europes largest totally refrigerated transport operations.

But perhaps I could go back to the start of this wonderful “magic lantern show”, and the Saviem JM240 of 1965 in the distinctive livery of VIT, (Valenton International Transports), of Valenton, Val de Marne Powered by a MAN 2146 HM4F 240 hp 6 cylinder, and fitted with the 840 serie sleeper cab. As you realise those photographs were “posed” for Saviem publicity work…But the work that those vehicles did was genuine and hard…the Paris- Naples run was a service that ran like a bus timetable…as did their other traffic, be it Iraq, Iran, or Nigeria…

French operators who were engaged in this type of activity gained a status far outside the industry itself , for in France in the 70s there was the phenomen of Max Meynier, and his Radio show, Les Routiers sont Sympa, and the population became aware of the depravation, and romance that long distance road haulage, both within Europe, and beyond entailed.

I was fortunate to have business dealings with VIT, Onatra, Chapuis, and Annemasse`s finest, Stouf…and yes Fergie, there are many tales to be told, of the companys, their traffic, the personalities, and the equipment…but you asked me about VIT…

What a company…from the delightful “Mimi” (Michelle), who was everyones first contact with VIT…but how many haulage operations do you know who had film stars on their payroll?

Well in the case of VIT, they had three. In `76, the film and television producer Maurice Cloche, had the idea of producing a TV drama series about a young, and struggling transport company engaged in "make or break " traffic to the middle east. The male leading role was cast to Jean Pierre Castaldi, and the female to the delightful Dora Doll, as Jean, and Rose Dupuy. Music…and quite good at that was by Jo Moutet…Vehicles …by us…the unlikely combination of a JP13 box van, and a SM280TU 4x2, and Savoyard tilt…plus a couple of actual VIT working vehicles on the run to Bagdad.

Three VIT drivers were used, the camera work was excellent, with evocative shots from the trailer bogie, real wheel changing on the roadside, plus actual filming in the Turkish mountains. So good was the potential that , (if I remember correctly), six episodes of about 50 mins were talen up by ORTF 1, and received a great response. Les Hommes de Rose, went out in `78…and I expect that there may be an episode or two lurking in the depths of these machines for those interested!

I suspect that Fergies pictures, 3,4, &5 are stills from Les Hommes de Rose, but the publicity did VIT a lot of good…but then of course Tpts Chapuis, had the author of Chien Perdu en Arabie, Andre Mariette working for them…a real heart breaker of a book…and there was always the big argument about who really was the first to go to Lagos and back, via the Sahara, was it Andre -Henri Hernandez, for Chapuis, in a Saviem 6x4 SM340VT, or Jean Gerard Dean in another SM for VIT…

Lovely people, lovely companys, and loads of memories…now there was the" big" …order for TRs from Stouff`s…there is a story…

Cheerio for now…and thank you.

Thank you John for you’re time, another fantastic look into the French transport industry, ( and film industry!!!)

Good evening Gentlemen,

It’s been some time, I hope you are all well.

Recently, I was fortunate enough to meet a very interesting man who has hugely interesting knowledge on a very interesting lorry.

I hope what follows will live up to this rather pretentious statement.

A few weeks back I was in Zürich for work and via unlikely channels ended up being in touch with Roland, a retired lorry driver who lives in the area and is now 72 years old.

Roland has been a driver with Windisch-based heavy haulage specialists WELTI-FURRER, and was the driver of the only Berliet TRH350 ever imported into Switzerland.

Some background to illustrate:
I understand the firm has been in the business of moving things for over 175 years, below some pictures (from their website)
Apparently this is their oldest known advertisement, dated somewhere around the early 20th century.

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Early 1900s. Probably one of the first-ever wagon & drags.

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Removal unit, circa 1930


In support of Swiss national expo 1939

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Already in the business of carrying large or odd loads. Giraffes on the road, courtesy of Zürich Zoo…

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The firm is still going strong today, with various operating branches. Not only super-heavy haulage, they also specialise in transporting high-value and fragile items such as art.

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So back to Roland.

  • He joined Welti-Furrer’s heavy haulage division in the early 70s as a young driver, if I understand correctly back then they were using mainly Steyrs and of course Saurers.
  • In the late seventies, Berliet had a rather limited presence in Switzerland in the super-heavy segment. Still some units of the non-turbocharged V8-engined TRH320 had been licensed and imported, along with some turbocharged 350hp ones, but only in 4x2 i.e. the TR350.
  • At some point Welti-Furrer requested to adopt Berliet’s latest offering in the super-heavy segment, which by then had become the 6x4 TRH350. Or perhaps Berliet’s importer approached Welti-Furrer to serve as a test Customer, Monsieur SAVIEM will know more details from his rich past experience.
  • In any case, Berliet’s importer obliged but had to apply for an exemption and introduced this beauty on an X-homologation as was customary for first imports for testing purposes.
  • Roland was one of the drivers of the firm who drove this beauty regularly. Thankfully, Roland was always a keen photographer so today we can enjoy pictures of this beautiful lorry in full action.


[For some infuriating reason this one is upside down, but if you click it will jump back on its feet]

  • Interestingly, she was NOT fitted with Berliet’s standard gearbox offering for this particular model, Fuller’s RTO13. She was equipped with a ZF, which at first gave quite some grief until Welti-Furrer’s in-house mechanics sorted out the finetuning.

  • After that she gave her owners many year’s good services with very few breakdowns, despite the huge loads (200+ tons) which they would occasionally move, often in double-unit “pull-and-push” mode.

  • Renault trucks today still has the importation paperwork for both the TRH320 and TR350 models, but not the TRH350. Which would confirm the notion that this was the only one.

  • Roland left Welti-Furrer in 1992 and he recalls that’s about the time she was sold on.

  • Unfortunately, her destination (or her today’s whereabouts) are unknown. who knows she might still be working through a second career in some exotic place.

That’s it gents, here’s a piece of Berliet history which I hope you find interesting.
Who knows, Monsieur SAVIEM’s encyclopaedic knowledge might include memories of Welti-Furrer or indeed this particular vehicle.

Bonne nuit
David

Hello young David ! Hope you’re well… Nice post, and some great pictures…another history lesson…this thread becomes more interesting and informative every day…perhaps a couple of more pictures of your own lorries, just to remind us that the young lads are interested in the old wagons…!!!

Here’s a very bad quality picture of your beautiful 142…

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Some heavy’s…

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A clip from the French lorry series that Saviem posted up… "les Hommes de Rose@

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Fergie47:
A clip from the French lorry series that Saviem posted up… "les Hommes de Rose@

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Brilliant! Now I want to see the whole thing. I noticed that the banner underneath advertised it on Toprun, but I’ve just been on the Toprun site and it isn’t available there any more. Any idea where one can get it? Robert

TRH 350 from haulage firm Roland ,near Lyon.

TOP-input Michel, comme habituel!

Few more old ladies, resting up…

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