Saviem's fan club (Part 1)

ParkRoyal2100:
PPS you blokes (Saviem, buzzer, Oily, etc.) with farming backgrounds will know what milk tastes like straight out of the churn. Go on and give us your impressions, preferably in the manner of some wine konosser.

In my yoof I did it many times, and I’ve never quite become accustomed to the taste of the (pasteurised, homogenised) product you get out of a bottle, even the (so called) full fat version.

Well ParkRoyal2100 my background I guess a bit different to that of Saviem and Buzzer, the farm was a neighbour and the family were relatives so from a very early age to 20ish my life was that farm and also that of neighbouring farms, alongside an apprenticeship when leaving school. In my later teenage years, I enjoyed the courtship of two farmers daughters, not at the same I hasten too add, mild encouragement from one father, scorned by the other.There was one other time I escorted yet another farmer’s daughter home from a dance, in them days we used to walk miles, anyway I was aware of the protective nature this particular father had for his only offspring and quietly approached the farmhouse building, midnight and not black dark, well bugger me he jumped from a doorway brandishing a stick, I was off over a fence faster than a long dog across a field of corn and homeward bound, I was no different to others who had failed in the same quest to fondle the whoa!!! :laughing: that brings me back to the milk question. Hand milking cows which I have done on occasion into an enamel pail then to the milk house to be put through a separator the Alfa-Laval make was the one I remember, cream separated from milk, the cream then used to make butter using a churn, this a canted wooden barrel on a crank spindle, finished products being semi solid butter and whey, the whey was mixed with other feedstuffs and fed to the pigs, an earlier model churn was called a plump churn, upright wooden tub narrowed at he top with hole in removable lid for the plumping handle. The warm milk straight from the udder was a taste to behold.
Oily

i was brought up on a smallholding by my grandparents in the war years and shortly after . there was only one cow for milking , but i was raised on real milk , butter that granny made and cheese . fresh eggs from under the hens and fresh chicken if one dared to stop laying . the fact that i never ailed for the first 60 years of my life i’m sure is down to my good start in life . dave

Just a small part of my dairy collection taken a few years ago. Fills a garage + now! :blush:

Pete.

Saviem:
Evening all,

Fergie, can I echo what Robert has said, thank you for taking the time and trouble to post all of those images, they are much appreciated, and for me really give me great pleasure to see them!

If you ever get the chance do try to have a “sit” in one of Charbonnaux`s “Television” Bernard cabs…there are a few, (very few), preserved in France…

Glad you enjoy the pic’s John, thank you…

We don’t have any really big classic lorry shows in the North West, but I’m always looking in the magazines for somewhere within a days drive. If I find an event, I’m hoping they’ll be a Bernard there, and if there is …I’m in it… :wink:

Evening all,

Milk from the Cow…a pleasure so very few can today enjoy!

Personally I loved that given by the little Jersey, though that from the Dexta came a close second, (but not quite so creamy). But a Shropshire hill farm had poor pasture, compared to real Dairy country…and today all the Great British Housewife can buy is a blended, homogenised mix of Fresian, and anything else that the robbers running the whole show can get the poor farmer to milk…no wonder the kids are “pasty faced”!

Its a bit like wine…comes in to the country in a glorified Durex…only millions of litres…is pumped out, bottled in some God forsaken hole like Warrington, Liverpool, or Guilford…and ends up on a supermarket shelf with a catching label, and product of Australia, the USA , Chile…surely those farmers in those countries deserve better for their efforts…

Buzzer, when I was young, (a bit ago), my Uncle was running W series Bedfords on Churn collections for a dairy, The Levedale Farm Dairy, at the bottom of Wolverhamptons main shopping street, Dudley Street. He also had a Dennis, which really did not have the capacity that the Ws had on the deck. But behind the cab she had a separate deck, that would hold a good 30 extras…no wonder he had big arms!

One day when she came in , the body came off, she was cut in two, and a big bit inserted on each side, the prop shaft lengthened, then the body had a bit put in the middle, and away she went, a new lwb lorry, about 4 days later…and she lasted a good 10 years after that…although she was very slow on the hills!

Happy days to remember, but long ones.

Cheerio for now.

This bloke started collecting churns of milk around the Forest of Dean at the tender age of 17.Loved it when we got alloy churns much lighter :frowning:

Saviem:
Evening all,

Milk from the Cow…a pleasure so very few can today enjoy!

Personally I loved that given by the little Jersey, though that from the Dexta came a close second, (but not quite so creamy). But a Shropshire hill farm had poor pasture, compared to real Dairy country…and today all the Great British Housewife can buy is a blended, homogenised mix of Fresian, and anything else that the robbers running the whole show can get the poor farmer to milk…no wonder the kids are “pasty faced”!

Its a bit like wine…comes in to the country in a glorified Durex…only millions of litres…is pumped out, bottled in some God forsaken hole like Warrington, Liverpool, or Guilford…and ends up on a supermarket shelf with a catching label, and product of Australia, the USA , Chile…surely those farmers in those countries deserve better for their efforts…

Buzzer, when I was young, (a bit ago), my Uncle was running W series Bedfords on Churn collections for a dairy, The Levedale Farm Dairy, at the bottom of Wolverhamptons main shopping street, Dudley Street. He also had a Dennis, which really did not have the capacity that the Ws had on the deck. But behind the cab she had a separate deck, that would hold a good 30 extras…no wonder he had big arms!

One day when she came in , the body came off, she was cut in two, and a big bit inserted on each side, the prop shaft lengthened, then the body had a bit put in the middle, and away she went, a new lwb lorry, about 4 days later…and she lasted a good 10 years after that…although she was very slow on the hills!

Happy days to remember, but long ones.

Cheerio for now.

Hi Saviem,Old photo of Wolverhampton,Entrance to Levedale Dairy is far left/half way up photo,there is a bus outside entrance? I will try and get you a better picture!! PS. Who owned the dairy that was on the Trysull road just before the Merry Hill pub? Cheers Pete

Pete, I’m struggling to recognise anything in that picture, mind you it’s been 40 years since I lived there !

Trev_H:
Pete, I’m struggling to recognise anything in that picture, mind you it’s been 40 years since I lived there !

Hi Trev,Bottom left is where the new police station is, opposite corner is the Wheatsheaf pub, if you look in the centre of picture you can see the old shopping arcade which got burnt down so the Mander Centre could be built! Cheers Pete

2 Bernard TDA 211 with Mack engine with B.S.L milk tank trailers in north east of France.

One TDA of those preserved, haulage firm Pierjac Maingret not far from the “Puy du Fou” west of France.

pete smith:

Trev_H:
Pete, I’m struggling to recognise anything in that picture, mind you it’s been 40 years since I lived there !

Hi Trev,Bottom left is where the new police station is, opposite corner is the Wheatsheaf pub, if you look in the centre of picture you can see the old shopping arcade which got burnt down so the Mander Centre could be built! Cheers Pete

Hi Pete,

I’m like Trev trying to remember where things are, it’s 55 years since I left there !! I did have a Saturday job helping our milklady on her round, that was with the Midland Counties Dairy in a little old electric float back in the 50’s. I seem to remember Miers Transport doing a lot of the bulk collection work from the farms. The dairy was on the Penn Road ideal for me as we lived in Merryhill.

Regards
Richard

MaggieD:

pete smith:

Trev_H:
Pete, I’m struggling to recognise anything in that picture, mind you it’s been 40 years since I lived there !

Hi Trev,Bottom left is where the new police station is, opposite corner is the Wheatsheaf pub, if you look in the centre of picture you can see the old shopping arcade which got burnt down so the Mander Centre could be built! Cheers Pete

Hi Pete,

I’m like Trev trying to remember where things are, it’s 55 years since I left there !! I did have a Saturday job helping our milklady on her round, that was with the Midland Counties Dairy in a little old electric float back in the 50’s. I seem to remember Miers Transport doing a lot of the bulk collection work from the farms. The dairy was on the Penn Road ideal for me as we lived in Merryhill.

Regards
Richard

Hi Richard, It took me a while to suss it out as well, Miers Transport used to be in Star Street in Bradmore, i have attache pictures of the Midland Counties Dairy on Penn road/Lea road and i will see if i can find one of the dairy on the Tyrsull road, Cheers Pete

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MaggieD:

pete smith:

Trev_H:
Pete, I’m struggling to recognise anything in that picture, mind you it’s been 40 years since I lived there !

Hi Trev,Bottom left is where the new police station is, opposite corner is the Wheatsheaf pub, if you look in the centre of picture you can see the old shopping arcade which got burnt down so the Mander Centre could be built! Cheers Pete

Hi Pete,

I’m like Trev trying to remember where things are, it’s 55 years since I left there !! I did have a Saturday job helping our milklady on her round, that was with the Midland Counties Dairy in a little old electric float back in the 50’s. I seem to remember Miers Transport doing a lot of the bulk collection work from the farms. The dairy was on the Penn Road ideal for me as we lived in Merryhill.

Regards
Richard

Just exactly did you do for that milk lady you helped on Saturday mornings and what was your reward, only you have a bit of a shady past Richard and I am sure the contributors on here would like to know, Buzzer.

Thanks for the thoughts and memories gents (esp Oily, Buzzer, rigsby & Saviem)

Like you Oily I worked on a farm, I’m not born and bred. Nonetheless I was fortunate to do so - there’s nothing like hard physical work to take a self-conscious boy out of himself. Summer holidays spent going round the field with the baler, stacking bales or trying to untangle the blasted thing (again); puttering along on the Fergy 65 with a trailer on the back; late supper with tea and the best lardy cake I ever had. Winter - even in Cornwall - could be hard work, even for a part-time casual layabout like me - everything turned to mud and everything seemed to go on in the middle of the night. Getting the herd in for milking up a 1 in 2 muddy field on a hill farm; having to get in among them and sort out the stroppy so-and-sos that wanted to go first; tubes that wouldn’t go on the teat right; vacuum pumps that didn’t; stripping out a quarter. But I can still hear the hum of the vacuum pump motor across the valley, and I can still hear the phish-phish of the milking equipment. And the excitement when the family who let me help out on their farm got their first dairy with a tank that could simply be pumped out, rather than the nightly ordeal of hauling churns out to the roadside.

Rose-tinted specs maybe, but I’ve never forgotten it, nor what real food - unhygienic and unhealthy (if not lethal) as doubtless some committee has decreed it - tastes like.

rigsby:
i was raised on real milk , butter that granny made and cheese . fresh eggs from under the hens and fresh chicken if one dared to stop laying . the fact that i never ailed for the first 60 years of my life i’m sure is down to my good start in life . dave

I’m convinced of the same. I’m sure the authorities would have fifty fits these days if they saw what you and I were lucky enough to have enjoyed - eggs complete with bird poop on the shells; milk that had - oh my ears and whiskers - come straight out of an animal and not even been near a stainless steel processing plant; you were outdoors in the mud and the grass and the dung and the sun and the rain, not corraled into a safely padded indoor ‘lifestyle’ looking at pictures of the mud and the grass and… all that stuff - the food, the mud, the outdoors - also made your immune system work properly.

Buzzer:

MaggieD:

pete smith:

Trev_H:
Pete, I’m struggling to recognise anything in that picture, mind you it’s been 40 years since I lived there !

Hi Trev,Bottom left is where the new police station is, opposite corner is the Wheatsheaf pub, if you look in the centre of picture you can see the old shopping arcade which got burnt down so the Mander Centre could be built! Cheers Pete

Hi Pete,

I’m like Trev trying to remember where things are, it’s 55 years since I left there !! I did have a Saturday job helping our milklady on her round, that was with the Midland Counties Dairy in a little old electric float back in the 50’s. I seem to remember Miers Transport doing a lot of the bulk collection work from the farms. The dairy was on the Penn Road ideal for me as we lived in Merryhill.

Regards
Richard

Just exactly did you do for that milk lady you helped on Saturday mornings and what was your reward, only you have a bit of a shady past Richard and I am sure the contributors on here would like to know, Buzzer.

Hi John,

Yes she was very nice, as you can see from the photo she said if you sit on the pavement I’ll run "past ur eyes’ she said she’d pay me in kind, but I had to work a week in hand :blush:

My first drive of a tractor was back in the late 50’s on my uncles farm in Saviem’s lovely Shropshire countryside at Newcastle on Clun,one of your Mary Hopkins moments John :slight_smile:

Regards to you and The Boss

Richard

Hi Pete,

Thanks for the photo’s brought back a few memories :slight_smile:

Regards

Richard

John…I know you like your MACK trucks, so how about the one on the right ( first pic )…, unusual to say the least. Looks a bit like a Crusader Cab …(move pic around to centre it )

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Bernard TV’s and a couple of and MACK’s

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