Transporteur BOMO…
A beautiful restored 6 x4 Hanomag - Henschel F-221 SB - 1968.
harry_gill:
Hiya,
Reference ROF’s Reliants, who remembers their security staff stopping traffic
along the old A5 to allow the rolling chassis to be pushed from one side of the
road to the other to be completed both the three’s and four’s got the same
humiliating treatment,were the four’s badged “Kitten”.■■
thanks harry, long retired.
Your memory cells are working fine, H. And remember the three-wheeler perched on top of their building?
By the way, we used to say that you always knew a Reliant owner by the way his knuckles were skinned on a Monday morning. They were worse to work on than a Bedford TK!
You were absolutely right about the Kitten. A wee bit more stable on the highway but the engine struggled to heave the extra weight of the fourth wheel! 
Retired Old ■■■■:
harry_gill:
Hiya,
Reference ROF’s Reliants, who remembers their security staff stopping traffic
along the old A5 to allow the rolling chassis to be pushed from one side of the
road to the other to be completed both the three’s and four’s got the same
humiliating treatment,were the four’s badged “Kitten”.■■
thanks harry, long retired.Your memory cells are working fine, H. And remember the three-wheeler perched on top of their building?
By the way, we used to say that you always knew a Reliant owner by the way his knuckles were skinned on a Monday morning. They were worse to work on than a Bedford TK!
You were absolutely right about the Kitten. A wee bit more stable on the highway but the engine struggled to heave the extra weight of the fourth wheel!
Hiya,
I’ve often wondered how many Reliants became donor vehicles for the trike lovers
being chassis’ed they were ideal for this purpose even retaining in some cases the
four cylinder engine, I often thought of constructing one myself “just for fun” and
possibly topping the back pocket up a bit in the process but before becoming very
ancient I never seemed to have the time, I did buy the plans for the Reliant Robin
“car to trike” conversion but these will have been re-cycled via the dustbin “by her
who must be obeyed” many moons ago along with my “black books” and BRS folder
and depot finder and my beloved “worth a fortune” hand written digs address book.
thanks harry, long retired.
Evening all,
Fergie, those pictures of Bomo are really good. You can have the “Television”, with its 185hp 6 cyl Gardner design, I will have picture 2, even though its LW powered! I used to park next to them, and just try to imagine driving such a wonderful machine, and it even had a bed in the back of its Pelpel cab.
Bernard users stuck to the Marque, even when Mack owned it, and produced some real odd balls. Then as per your pictures, they began to use Macks. I think that if I remember correctly there were in `79, around 900 Macks registered in France, and 120 in the UK. I must admit to liking them, but not a fraction as much as I loved Bernard!
Buzzer must be the most experienced sidecar rider on here, judging by his Grass Track pictures, what does he think about the ladies “mount”…despite what Oily says I still think MZ as a favourite.
DBP, the old tractor scene is very pleasant. No back biting, just a bit of fun, and really it still has the original enthusiasm, and camaraderie that is/has gone from the old lorry job! Like Fergies picture, just a bunch of pals with similar interests, a glass or two, and a lot of shared experience and laughter. I can recommend it to you.
Cirque Pinder…that operation could fill an encyclopedia. What a Circus…about 10 times larger than anything in the UK. Those Assomption Caravans pulled by modified WW2 Autocars, and Whites. Just feast your eyes on the design, and Jimmy`s KW has only ever been driven by him.
Bussing, and Hanomag-Henschell were very popular in the French market, both as 35 tonne tractors, and as Heavy Haulers. Of course Henschell were the first partner of Saviem, but it did not work for either party when Mercedes acquired Henschell…so along came MAN…then Berliet arrived, leaving MAN with no representation in France…until Paul Channon gave Leyland to DAF, who immediately closed France Vehicules Industriels, the Leyland operation, (who were making inroads)…so MAN snapped up some of their 32 French Dealers…bit like a Ballet really, the lorry business!!
Harry, in my barn I have Sandy Frasers “Gad Fly”, built by his Lion Omnibus Company, a little 3 wheel van, built on a Reliant chassis, bodied to replicate a 1930s Scammell Mechanical Horse…one day I will get around to finishing it off! Bit of a long and rambling story as to how she came into my possession, involving…a very early start…removing a hedge, …a fence…dismantling a shed…and a totally naked lady…
Perhaps for another day!
Cheerio for now.
Hiya,
Saviem haste ye back, Ha’ the naked lady is causing a stirring.
thanks harry, long retired.
Take another pill & calm yerself down, H. Knowing Saviem, the story won’t be quite what we think! 
Fabulous images Fergie! Thank you for sharing them. Robert 
robert1952:
Fabulous images Fergie! Thank you for sharing them. Robert
Thank you Robert, appreciated.
Fergie 47 that Bussing cab was the best in Europe when it came out more room and comfort than anything else around at the time
cheers Johnnie
sammyopisite:
Fergie 47 that Bussing cab was the best in Europe when it came out more room and comfort than anything else around at the timecheers Johnnie
Never been in one John, I’ve been in a Büssing, which I think is the same ? certainly roomy compared to a Big J… 
Evening all,
Fergie, can I echo what Robert has said, thank you for taking the time and trouble to post all of those images, they are much appreciated, and for me really give me great pleasure to see them!
If you ever get the chance do try to have a “sit” in one of Charbonnaux`s “Television” Bernard cabs…there are a few, (very few), preserved in France…the driving position is every bit as good as you could imagine…it is tremendous…a real drivers lorry!
But for me I always loved the driving position in the Mack F786 Interstator…and the drive with that Maxi Torque engine was really quite something…but I was raised on Fodens…
ROF, Harry,…I will recount the story in detail…another day…and I still cannot recall what the naked lady looked like!!!1
And ROF, do not mock the Ariel Arrow, I had a few of them, utterly reliable, great handling, and in their day a superb bike…(I nearly said ride…but that would have connotations given your post)!!!
Cheerio for now.
I did not mean to mock the Arrow, Saviem. Indeed, it remains the only two-stroke I would be tempted by. I absolutely loved mine, eventually it ended up being converted into a clubman’s racer. Just my luck that those infernal Japanese chappies began to ship their multi-cylinder screaming machines into this country, spelling the death knell for small British machines on the track.
michel:
Last month ,east of France.
Love that. My first ever driving experience at the blushing age of 14 was a Fergie 35 (a T20 in modern clothing). At 15 I learnt how to handle the might of a Fergie 65, and at one point just past my 16th I was even given the reins to a Fordson Power Major.
Trumped, I believe the expression is 
To be serious for a minute, I learned a helluva lot about making smooth gearchanges. It’s stood me in good stead ever since.
oiltreader:
Buzzer’s motorbike combination, well having a photo of a Ural, couldn’t quite make the connection, Ural mostly having a coil spring front forks suspension, tho’ they also have telescopic fork models with the same front brake cable assembly as Buzzer’s pic, but a different shape tank, so did a bit o’ googling it could be an ex army(no tank badge) Ural or I.m thinking more likely a Dnepr(Ukrainian) couple of pointers here youtube.com/watch?v=UaOnuJzXst4
also another pointer towards Dnepr is the front mudguard, lightweight with single bracket fixing to forks frame.
Oily
You may not believe this, but this very afternoon I saw, while trundling back to the yard, just such a thing on a trailer being towed by an Isuzu motorhome thing (one of Straya’s innumerable “grey nomads” I suspect). In the absence of any badges I was racking my brains trying to reconcile BMW-style flat-twin engine with 60s architecture - was it CZ? Dneiper? Or Ural?
Many thanks Oily for answering a question I had no idea I was going to ask, nor where I was going to ask it.
Dave the Renegade:
Buzzer:
Dave the Renegade:
Hi Kev,
Tractor vaporising oil (or TVO) is a fuel for Petrol-paraffin engines. In the United Kingdom and Australia, after the Second World War, it was commonly used for tractors until diesel engines became commonplace.
Cheers Dave.It must have been cheap back in the day as I remember the chap who did hedge cutting for my dad used it to get the fire going to burn the trimmings on our farm, Buzzer.
It was Kerosene which is now used as heating oil. A lot of the farmers this way had old tractors running on TVO when I was a kid in the 1950’s.
Cheers Dave.
The 50s? Crumbs, my first ever drive was on a TVO Fergie 35, and that was 1975 or so.
Mind you, this was Cornwall …
PS, thanks all for a cracking thread, covering all sorts of off-topic motorised stuff. I have no adequate explanation for not investigting it sooner.
PPS you blokes (Saviem, buzzer, Oily, etc.) with farming backgrounds will know what milk tastes like straight out of the churn. Go on and give us your impressions, preferably in the manner of some wine konosser.
In my yoof I did it many times, and I’ve never quite become accustomed to the taste of the (pasteurised, homogenised) product you get out of a bottle, even the (so called) full fat version.
ParkRoyal2100:
PPS you blokes (Saviem, buzzer, Oily, etc.) with farming backgrounds will know what milk tastes like straight out of the churn. Go on and give us your impressions, preferably in the manner of some wine konosser.In my yoof I did it many times, and I’ve never quite become accustomed to the taste of the (pasteurised, homogenised) product you get out of a bottle, even the (so called) full fat version.
Well PR having been conceived and born on a 60 acre farm in the New Forest near Southampton I can tell you there was nothing quite like the taste of new milk out the cow before it went cold, ours for house use was taken every morning in a billycan type container taken out with a one pint dipping utensil, we never had a bulk tank all ours went in to churns of 11 gallon capacity to which we had to affix a label either tied on to the lid or push over a ■■■■■■ type so the dairy new from which farm it came from. Remember all milk went through a paper sieve and was cooled by rotating tubes and then the water ran down the sides of the churns to cool the milk, when we finished milking, a job I hated by the way we would give the cats the milky paper from the sieve which they loved. Collection by a local haulage firm G.Dear from nearby Whitparish the truck driven by one Morry Shepherd at about 10am, in the spring when the new grass came it was common for him to have a greedy crate so he could put the churns 2 high for the extra capacity, the truck had a post and chain all round to avoid churns falling off. When he had done his round he went to Brown and Harrison’s in Southampton the local dairy to unload and recharge with MT clean churns for the next day. In winter if it snowed we sometimes had to load said churns on a trailer and take to the main road by tractor to ensure collection.
In the summer it was quite common for the haulier when he returned to his depot to unload the MT churns and do a couple of loads of straw locally for farmers and at the end of the day reload ready for the next day.
Hope this gives you an idea of what milk production was like back in the day, alas no churns today but they are worth a bob or two now, most had the name of the dairy stamped into the lids or on the churn itself to show who owned it, cheers Buzzer.
