…so better hole up in a good Routier stop!
To warmer climes. How about a Spanish ‘Thrupenny-bit’ lorry then?
ERF-NGC-European:
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Spanish-built Berliet and the second one is a Barreiros using a Berliet Relaxe cab. Interesting picture!
Here’s more about the SAVA-Berliet, in Spaninish of course:
imatgessobrerodes.blogspot.com/ … rliet.html
And another article, this time in English, about SAVA in which it’s mentioned they did build small BMC trucks under licence:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sava_(Spain
Froggy55:
Here’s more about the SAVA-Berliet, in Spaninish of course:
imatgessobrerodes.blogspot.com/ … rliet.htmlAnd another article, this time in English, about SAVA in which it’s mentioned they did build small BMC trucks under licence:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sava_(Spain
Mine was the bog-standard BL version 
ERF-NGC-European:
Froggy55:
Here’s more about the SAVA-Berliet, in Spaninish of course:
imatgessobrerodes.blogspot.com/ … rliet.htmlAnd another article, this time in English, about SAVA in which it’s mentioned they did build small BMC trucks under licence:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sava_(SpainMine was the bog-standard BL version
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With what I recall as tiny very basic seats!
Dipster:
ERF-NGC-European:
Froggy55:
Here’s more about the SAVA-Berliet, in Spaninish of course:
imatgessobrerodes.blogspot.com/ … rliet.htmlAnd another article, this time in English, about SAVA in which it’s mentioned they did build small BMC trucks under licence:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sava_(SpainMine was the bog-standard BL version
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With what I recall as tiny very basic seats!
Correct! Under one of which the batteries resided. I remember giving a lift to an educated girl in Oxfordshire once; and just as I was about to spark up a rolled cigarette I said, ‘What’s that awful rubbery smell?’
‘Hydrogen!’ She answered.
Clearly, the battery was seriously over-charging and I was able to find a garage to replace the part in Oxford.
But it was a very reliable little lorry. It shared the same 2.2 BMC diesel lump as many vans of the day, FX4 taxis, some Landrovers (ie the better ones that didn’t have Landrover engines!) and innumerable small boats.
Belgium was until c. 1970 a truck producing country, with two main manufacturers: Miesse (or Auto-Miesse) and Brossel. Here’s a Miesse 835 T powered by a Gardber 8LW developing 150 bhp. This other model, believed to be the last produced in 1967, was initially powered with a GM 2-stroke, which was later replaced by a 180 bhp Gardner 8 LX
Which money-makers (still) hang in de boardroom?
Enclosed a (for us on the continent) rare White Road Commander type I from 1977 making money every day.
Under the cab: ■■■■■■■ NTCE 290 and a Fuller 9-speed. No major repairs nor overhaul…■■■■■■■ that’s it!!
On a daily average the tractor did steel, coffee, concrete, orange juice, spareparts, coils (with special frames
as the coil-carrier did not exist) and everything that came via the phone, telex and fax!!!
ERF-Continental:
Which money-makers (still) hang in de boardroom?Enclosed a (for us on the continent) rare White Road Commander type I from 1977 making money every day.
Under the cab: ■■■■■■■ NTCE 290 and a Fuller 9-speed. No major repairs nor overhaul…■■■■■■■ that’s it!!
On a daily average the tractor did steel, coffee, concrete, orange juice, spareparts, coils (with special frames
as the coil-carrier did not exist) and everything that came via the phone, telex and fax!!!
Very nice! And good pictures too (though we’ve had the first one before!). The cab seems to be lower than the usual Commanders, with no grille section below the radiator grille and the steering-wheel is much more sharply raked than the flatter ones in the taller cab (as visible in this other White belonging to Van Steenbergen). Perhaps it was a different model (?).
ERF-NGC-European:
ERF-Continental:
Which money-makers (still) hang in de boardroom?Enclosed a (for us on the continent) rare White Road Commander type I from 1977 making money every day.
Under the cab: ■■■■■■■ NTCE 290 and a Fuller 9-speed. No major repairs nor overhaul…■■■■■■■ that’s it!!
On a daily average the tractor did steel, coffee, concrete, orange juice, spareparts, coils (with special frames
as the coil-carrier did not exist) and everything that came via the phone, telex and fax!!!Very nice! And good pictures too (though we’ve had the first one before!). The cab seems to be lower than the usual Commanders, with no grille section below the radiator grille and the steering-wheel is much more sharply raked than the flatter ones in the taller cab (as visible in this other White belonging to Van Steenbergen). Perhaps it was a different model (?).
Oh, and dare I say: Belgian coil-carriers did exist! I used to pull these Van Daele 10m ones that were probably built in the late '60s:
Rowena…I hear you on the coil-carriers, however those trailers probably didn’t had the gutter
but only a sort of frames to block the coils.
The other White out of the Van Steenbergen’ fleet was a Road Commander II
ERF-Continental:
Rowena…I hear you on the coil-carriers, however those trailers probably didn’t had the gutter
but only a sort of frames to block the coils.The other White out of the Van Steenbergen’ fleet was a Road Commander II
Excellent! Thank you for the clarification on both counts. 
. However, those old trailers (with wooden dropsides) had a sunken well (gutter) down the length of the bed, and with the low canopy they sat well on the road.
Some White RC1 were also sold in France.
Nice reaction Michel…I think this White was part of the H. Loste-fleet in Hellemmes, Lille and
they also had Autocar-tractors in their fleet…and for Rowena…also ERF NGC!!! The chance
is pretty fair that ■■■■■■■ Distributor Belgium sold these trucks directly in France.
As a matter of fact…behind the White you can see the back of a NGC
ERF-Continental:
As a matter of fact…behind the White you can see the back of a NGC
Yes indeed! I spotted it instantly
The White and the ERFs could well have been supplied by MABO of Paris. Loste had other American lorries, as we know, including a Pacific.
Mabo had nothing to do with White nor Autocar (also in the White-group) and the Pacific
was an ex-surplus…as many of the present chassis in Europe.
ERF-Continental:
Mabo had nothing to do with White nor Autocar (also in the White-group) and the Pacific
was an ex-surplus…as many of the present chassis in Europe.
Yes, I take your point. I think MABO were mainly Mack and ERF.
MABO were ERF distibutor in France, one of their publicity.
