SAVIEM…Well John, if you don’t write a book, it’ll be regarded as a crime to the european transport industry…what knowledge, and experience, you’ve gained over “the best years” in our industry…it’ll never be the same again… 
Evening all, just a little sort of add on for Buzzer…
SCALEX was created by SCAC - Bollore, when they amalgamated Transports Leyx, of Villenuve-la-Garenne into SCAC-Bollore, and what a company was formed, and what grand people!! and without boring you all with a long company history, SCALEX converted some Willeme RD202H rigids with 690 AEC engines into 6x4 tractors at around 150 tonnes…they were far more reliable than the TR 356 Berliet that I supplied them with…(must have been a Summer Friday afternoon build at Bourg, and a poor menu at lunchtime)!!!
Buzzer, When I wrote earlier regarding SCAC, perhaps I did not give the true extent of this company…for in the 60s SCAC ran many coal tippers around Northern France, and were big Willeme clients, for their coal operations…and as a company they were like Hanson in the UK,
But its been another 15 hour day, and this 70plus needs his sleep…after his medicinal Bollinger…of course…
Bon Nuit mes Braves.
Some more “Heavy” haulage, French style, well, not as heavy as the SCALES company pulling 600 tonnes,
but heavy-ish…
Never driven one of these, would liked to have had a go though…not sure what year this would have been operating…late '80’s '90’s perhaps ?
Calor Gas, their yard in Southampton and one of their trucks
It ain’t of course, but it could have been. The name, lorries, and country change, otherwise the jobs the same
Fergie47:
Never driven one of these, would liked to have had a go though…not sure what year this would have been operating…late '80’s '90’s perhaps ?
Hey Fergie, often seen around Dunkirk,not this one, but with the dolly system. some tried to cross the Belgian border with it, but wasn’t allowed here, if some got troubles never known.
Bye Eric,
Willeme PRP from Scales.
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Two générations of TBO Berliet.
tiptop495:
Fergie47:
Never driven one of these, would liked to have had a go though…not sure what year this would have been operating…late '80’s '90’s perhaps ?Hey Fergie, often seen around Dunkirk,not this one, but with the dolly system. some tried to cross the Belgian border with it, but wasn’t allowed here, if some got troubles never known.
Bye Eric,
Eric…what year do you think ?
michel:
Willeme PRP from Scales.
Michel…what year, and what was the gross tonnes…? Could it also have a ballist box fitted?
Where do we register for Marine LePenn’s fan club,somewhere in Brittany I was told,well for the British fans as there is an well known ex pat from S’amton who is organising the membership and also the Nigel Farage appreciation society,French chapter,Anon 1.
Bewick:
Where do we register for Marine LePenn’s fan club,somewhere in Brittany I was told,well for the British fans as there is an well known ex pat from S’amton who is organising the membership and also the Nigel Farage appreciation society,French chapter,Anon 1.
Hello Den…The girl done well…25%… its shaken the establishment up a tad…well, more of an earthquake really…bit like old Nige back in Blighty.
Still, bit like a turkey voting for Xmas as far as I’m concerned, when she gets in, I’ll be chucked out…homeless…got a spare room at your place?
Saviems done well, 24%…beat old Hollande by a mile, or km’s as you’d say here, The pink coach campagne (now fitted with XL240’s from your secret stash up on the moors) has obviously had the desired effect…■■■ means votes…dont knock it if it works, they’ll all be doing it next year… 
Fergie47:
tiptop495:
Fergie47:
Never driven one of these, would liked to have had a go though…not sure what year this would have been operating…late '80’s '90’s perhaps ?Hey Fergie, often seen around Dunkirk,not this one, but with the dolly system. some tried to cross the Belgian border with it, but wasn’t allowed here, if some got troubles never known.
Bye Eric,
Eric…what year do you think ?
Hey Fergie, it was in the '90’s that I saw them most. The time I did a bit containering haulage.
Cheers Eric,
Fergie47:
SAVIEM…Well John, if you don’t write a book, it’ll be regarded as a crime to the european transport industry…what knowledge, and experience, you’ve gained over “the best years” in our industry…it’ll never be the same again…
D’accord! And such a book shouldn’t be a dry, well-organised lorry book: oh, no! It should be a true ‘Saviem’ stream of consciousness, a la Virginia Wolf, but with more lorries than light-houses; and with all the breath-takingly evocative little references to la belle France that characterise ‘Saviem’s’ writing… He should do it! His writing produces that essence that Monsieur le Graphite Garage de la ‘France Routes’ manages to achieve in his drawings. Robert 
michel:
Two générations of TBO Berliet.
Evening all, now michel, that really does make the heart beat faster!
Fascinating company Dessirier H Zucconi, had its foundation back in pre WW1 Paris, as Transports Dessirier, based in the12th arrondissement, and running Latils, and 40hp TARs. After WW2 the company was known as Veuve Dessireret Cie, and was running ex US army M26A1 Pacifics, Somua JL19T, Berliets, and Latils.
In 1952 Mdme Dessiriers daughter married Humbert Zucconi who owned a special transports company, (Sinpar converted low loading hight 6x4 Renault Goelette`s, Berliet Stradair, air suspended 10 tonners, and a quite spectacular range of cranes for use in urban areas, including a 45tonne Linkbelt on a Berliet 8x4 chassis. The new combined company operated from a large warehouse and open site at Quai Jules Guesde at Vitry sur Seine. .
From here I remember them runing Berliet TLR250s, and TLM12s, some 6x4 tr250s, a spectacular Willeme RD202TBH,a big MAN 6x6, and a couple of "our " new Saviem TR280s. Then of course they had Berliet TBOs. A TBO120, ■■■■■■■ 335, Allison auto, and Torque converter, TBO 15 M3 HC, with Berliets MS640A 6 cylinder 14.780 litre turbo, @320hp and 10 speed FBORA gearbox, (around 57kph) gtw 95000kgs…but worked well in excess of this…all the time…
Then came the EDF driven tie up with STAG, under the combined name GIE Trans Industrie, (later to be joined by Leyx , (Scales), and my friend Jacque Mayer, from Nancy. And with this grouping came the 8x4, Willeme TG200 & 8x8 TG250s. Pulling Delattre et Levier 600 tonne modules. Later came “our” TR356, and 360s which could operate at a legal 38 tonnes, but were also rated at 180 tonnes…(and a bit more), as “Hors Code”.
Some moves made by this company, and its grouping are quite incredible, and perhaps worthy of more discourse at another time…but bed beckons…and how!
Couple of quickies, fergie, the 6x4 TGs were rated at, 100/180 tonnes, depending on the axles. michels picture seemes to have the Willeme axle, so 150 tonnes max, and yes a ballast body could be fitted…although concrete was often chained on for traction when being used as a “pusher”.TG200 8x4s rated at 200 tonnes, TG250 8x8, 250/360 tonnes. But the Chinese 8x8s on Clark Triple Reduction axles was rated at 1000 tonnes…(Somewhere I wrote a bit about these, operated by a UK petroleum exploration company…and still in existance early 2000s)! Swopping the Willeme axles for Clark Triple reductions was a standard mod by owners, as was “junking” the auto box on the Detroit V12, and V 16s for a Fuller)
Now to hear Mayors V12, with the Jake going full chat was real music to my, or any lorry mans ears…
Im away to a swift Bollinger, then land of nod…
Cheerio for now…thanks for the super photographs Gentlemen!
Those B trains…Multi Trans ran into the UK with a G Range Renault, and two single axle trailers late 80s! Unlike Belgium no one stopped them at Dover!!! B trains were legal around French Container ports
Can someone please, please enlighten me as to how a bloke of Saviem’s age can remember so much? He’s a walking (well, tractor-riding) encyclopaedia.
ask him what he had for breakfast this morning , i’ll bet that would stump him .
rigsby:
ask him what he had for breakfast this morning , i’ll bet that would stump him .[/quoteAh well rigsby you could be right!
Bank Holliday Monday, nice morning, Im 25ft in the air, happily standing in the extended bucket of my loader, painting the wall of a barn…
Mobile rings…“have you organised anyone to cut trees on your land”?..(its a neighbour, to the executive piles that I rescued from flooding back in the Monsoon season…
“No”…
Out of that bucket like a rocket…and down the lane to the" Executive Piles"…(or as fast as a Suzuki Jimny can carry this pensioner)…
When I arrive there is only the sound of the Birds…no chainsaws…but lots of fallen timber…
Back to the farm…ring the Constabulary…“someones cut my trees down”!..“sorry its Bank Holiday and skeleton staff”…B,!
Today, 1700…a JCB loader appears covered with fallen timber…where do yo want this?..I had forgotten that I had asked a lad to trim the trees bordering the Executive Piles…and he had subcontracted the job!!!
Red face…and a lot of mirth from the “incident room” when I rang to explain the true situation…
Yes rigsby/ROF…Ive had it…
Long past my sell by date…
Away to the Bolinger for solace…l
I know! TNUK is continually jogging my memory about things that happened forty years ago and I find I can remember every detail. But ask me what I did yesterday… 
those are great heavy haulage pictures posted be Fergie and Michel
cheers Johnnie