UKtramp:
Well I have said it before and will say it again, beaver you are so UKT, if you carry on your gonna get a few of my fan club members
Just ā ā ā ā ā ā off with all this nonsense mate. We are vilified by many sections of society as it is, so what do we do?
We CHOOSE to go onto an internet forum ā By truckers FOR truckers ā and then TURN ON EACH OTHER like the perceived brainless moronic steering wheel attendants that we actually are in the most part
Dropped the trailer on itās knees? No problem, I will go and distract X and Y, you go and grab the FLT and quickly get Z to wind the legs.
No no no. Letās grass him up instead One of your fellow drivers cheating the time sheets and getting more dough than you? Good on them No no no. Letās grass him up instead.
UNLESS YOU ALL START STICKING TOGETHER YOU BRAINLESS KNOBS, THINGS WILL CONTINUE TO GET WORSE FFS
JUST BECAUSE SOME OF YOU ARE A BIT STUPID, YOUāVE ALL PASSED AN EYE TEST. OPEN YOUR F**KING EYES BEFORE ITāS TOO LATE.
Well beaver me old chum, I quite agree with you 100%, I am a people person and always have been, I believe in doing someone a good turn rather than a bad one but everyone is different. However I have found some people on this forum do not reflect who I work with, but then the only ones I do get on with are normal working blokes, donāt let the plebs get you down buddy. On here a lot of them are not even drivers anyway, you know that mate so no need to fret over the plonkers. Chin up bud and get back in the game!!
Iāve seen people have pot noodles while driving. Iāve also seen people drinking a coffee while smoking a cigarette.
I donāt see how holding a mobile phone to your head is more dangerous yet the above two are totally legal.
adam277:
Iāve seen people have pot noodles while driving. Iāve also seen people drinking a coffee while smoking a cigarette.
I donāt see how holding a mobile phone to your head is more dangerous yet the above two are totally legal.
It is a fair point adam, we have all done it but this guy unfortunately held his phone to his ear in which case the poor sod got caught. If I was to speak on my phone whilst driving I would have been inclined to have put it on loudspeaker and held it at my knees. It is a shame he got sacked as nobody wants to see that happen to anyone. You just donāt know who is watching you nowadays. I vape in my cab and have seen people looking at me. Why anyone would go out of their way to get someone sacked is beyond me but I do believe in Karma.
adam277:
Iāve seen people have pot noodles while driving. Iāve also seen people drinking a coffee while smoking a cigarette.
I donāt see how holding a mobile phone to your head is more dangerous yet the above two are totally legal.
To say drinking etc is totally legal is not quite correct, whilst there are no laws against them apart from the smoking in the workplace which a truck is a workplace so that makes it illegal, you can be prosecuted for anything like that you do while driving, for not being in control of the vehicle.
eagerbeaver:
What a wonderful country this place is becoming. No need for police anymore, letās just inform on each other
Beaver mate, Iāll agree with many things you post, but when it comes to phones behind the wheel I would grass anyone up. I think, this time, youāre a bit of ā ā ā ā with your post.
Itās a truly selfish and dangerous thing to do and itās always done by choice,a very very selfish choice and I rate it the same as drink driving, I hope you wouldnāt put the same post up for that?
Or is there āacceptable grassingāā¦
Totally agree mate. An LGV driver with their phone to the ear is a good visual representation of the typically ā thick ā lorry driver of today. It is without doubt unacceptable.
What ā ā ā ā ā ā me off though is the culture of Doris and Bob in their Volvo 740 estate full of discounted plants from the local garden centre policing the roads. Then we have the spineless large corporate logistics crew covering their arse and protecting shareholders share prices and no doubt grovelling to Bob and Doris and apologising.
Why didnāt this driver get a final written warning? That would be enough of a mind concentrating shove
And if this employer is so desperately concerned, surely they would forward the footage to the police? But they wonāt, because truth be told, they just donāt want any kind of association with bad press. Itās just indicative of the false and nauseating way that companies deal with things nowadays And as for the sad pricks that self police our roads, they make me sick
Ok mate, you win me back again, I get your point. As itās not a banning offence ( points depending ) then yes, a final warning is what I would go for, but yes, the office bod covering his arse will always throw a spanner. I thought you meant any grassing for anythingā¦
@robroyā¦your comment about how much of a distraction is it really ? I know what you mean to a point. Any call is a distraction of sorts and in years gone by holding the phone to your ear as opposed to hands free is technical when the actual distraction is the call itself, however my view is that these days with smartphones itās much more of a distraction. How many times do you pass someone in lane one with a phone in their hand but scrolling and not on a call?
The only way to deal with it is a blanket ban in my view. With modern technology there should be no reason whatsoever to have a phone in your hand, the only reason these days is if you are not on a call but facebooking etc, hence the increase in punishment and rightly so.
Iāll say it again, but I would grass anybody using a mobile while driving these days as I doubt they are actually on a call but doing something that requires more attention.
A friend of mine works for Wincanton and he told me about a driver who had a car clip his near side from lane 1, wedge across his front and then run down his off side because she kept her foot down in a panic. She was young and owned up that she was texting when she drifted. The worst thing is that she was texting a contact number to her best friendā¦who was sat in the passenger seat ffs!!!
Couple at our place have been suspended since August Bank Holiday weekend when caught in a police crackdown, presumably due to the police not supplying the evidence to the firm as yet, if they have it at all.
HGV:
Most phones come with headphonesā¦if not they are cheap eniugh on ebay ffs!
What makes me laugh us when people have them on loud speaker but then hold it up near their mouth, ffs they really are stupid, they may aswell.hold it to their heads.
Oh and i agree he got what he deserves
Any wired headphone kit for a phone is illegal to use for two reasons.
One itās in contact with the phone therefore not making it hands free.
Two wearing two earphones is illegal and it makes it harder to hear outside noises.
Both could get you a ticket.
Had this come up the other day at my new jobs induction, it surprised me I must say. Apparently itās not illegal to wear or even talk on a bluetooth earpiece/headset but the second you reach up to press the accept/end or volume controls on it you are then classed as operating a handheld device
Also for all you vapers out there, the Police are apparently looking into whether to class the vape machines as a handheld device as itās electronic and would therefore have it fall under the same category as phones and therefore illegal to use whilst driving too, so if you vape Iād advise you look into that and keep an eye on it becoming a thing.
Reef:
Also for all you vapers out there, the Police are apparently looking into whether to class the vape machines as a handheld device as itās electronic and would therefore have it fall under the same category as phones and therefore illegal to use whilst driving too, so if you vape Iād advise you look into that and keep an eye on it becoming a thing.
I think in 20 years time if the robots havenāt taken over yet then this job will be a complete nightmare of red tape and 24/7 surveillance. I best start looking for another skill set.
Reef:
Also for all you vapers out there, the Police are apparently looking into whether to class the vape machines as a handheld device as itās electronic and would therefore have it fall under the same category as phones and therefore illegal to use whilst driving too, so if you vape Iād advise you look into that and keep an eye on it becoming a thing.
I think in 20 years time if the robots havenāt taken over yet then this job will be a complete nightmare of red tape and 24/7 surveillance. I best start looking for another skill set.
Well, apparently robotics is a growing industryā¦
tommie1shunt:
Sacking him is a bit strong, he aināt a murderer for gods sake, yeah I know it is not big and clever, 2 weeks suspension, final warning etc. You see a lot worse on the roads day in day out doing a lot more dangerous than talking on the phone on the motorway. Folks in glass houses should not throw stones, bet all the posters have talked on the phone and done some dumb things just as ādangerousā. My way of thinking it aināt to bad talking on the phone it is the idiots texting and doing the social media stuff, now that is really dangerous.
No he aināt a murderer but he had the great potential of causing an accident which could be fatal and thatās what these arrogant ā ā ā ā ā donāt have the brain power to realise.
I am totally deaf in 1 ear so please all speak up a bit The headphones you get with the phone are no good to me because of this same as most headphones you buy I do have a bluetooth head set which I use no problem & quite legal thanks
Considering heās agency, being āsackedā wonāt make a jot of difference to him. Heāll simply work somewhere else on Monday. As for reporting him, he wants to count himself lucky that footage was only sent to his employer. If it had found itās way to the police, the consequences would have been much more serious.
We all know the rules, if youāre stupid enough to break them, you canāt complain when youāre caught.
switchlogic:
I find it fascinating how successful the enforcement agencies have been at getting people to put using a phone while driving into the same outrage bracket as drink driving. Itās been a very successful campaign.
This is just an observation, nothing more.
+1
people are lemmings
no different than hitler recruiting the brown shirts.
give joe public some slight self imposed power and they just roll with it.
traffic wardens
highways agency(or whatever this weeks name is)
security cabbages
basically any plobbing jobsworth.
basil and doris policing the roads .
just complete nonentity fannys.
Far too strong sacking the guy on the spot. There should at least be a warning given before notice. Yes the guy was an idiot using the phone but no puppies killed or kittens squashed. If the guy had driven onto the pavement and taken out a load of geriatrics waiting for the day centre bus itād be a different story. Its bad enough drivers dobbing each other, a real shame some folk cant just get on with their own lives instead of constantly sticking their nose in othersā¦
switchlogic:
I find it fascinating how successful the enforcement agencies have been at getting people to put using a phone while driving into the same outrage bracket as drink driving. Itās been a very successful campaign.
This is just an observation, nothing more.
+1
people are lemmings
no different than hitler recruiting the brown shirts.
give joe public some slight self imposed power and they just roll with it.
traffic wardens
highways agency(or whatever this weeks name is)
security cabbages
basically any plobbing jobsworth.
basil and doris policing the roads .
just complete nonentity fannys.
The plobbing fannies are the worstā¦real road commander types who just hate being overtakenā¦
animal:
I am totally deaf in 1 ear so please all speak up a bit The headphones you get with the phone are no good to me because of this same as most headphones you buy I do have a bluetooth head set which I use no problem & quite legal thanks
Get yourself a Bahaā go and see the local ent ā¦ you wonāt be deaf in one ear.
animal:
I am totally deaf in 1 ear so please all speak up a bit The headphones you get with the phone are no good to me because of this same as most headphones you buy I do have a bluetooth head set which I use no problem & quite legal thanks
Get yourself a Bahaā go and see the local ent ā¦ you wonāt be deaf in one ear.
animal:
I do have a bluetooth head set which I use no problem & quite legal thanks
Not completely 100% legal though, hereās whyā¦
Hands-free phone law
You are allowed to use a phone if it is fully hands-free ā youāre not allowed to pick it up and operate it even momentarily.
Any hands-free devices should be fully set up before you drive, so you can take calls without handling the device.
The police still have the power to stop you if they believe you have been distracted by using a mobile phone while driving, even if itās fully hands-free. Some road safety groups believe mobile phones should be completely switched off while driving, to avoid any distractions.
One of your fellow drivers cheating the time sheets and getting more dough than you? Good on them
No no no. Letās grass him up instead.
And as for the sad pricks that self police our roads, they make me sick 
