Runaway Engine

Hi 1970commer, I saw these earlier today but decided not to post them at the time, but in the light of your post they may help. :slight_smile:
I was interested to learn more about this type of engine because, until its come up in this topic, I wasn’t aware of it. If you have an open mind, you can learn something new every day.

and here’s one running:

Driveroneuk:
Hi 1970commer, I saw these earlier today but decided not to post them at the time, but in the light of your post they may help. :slight_smile:
I was interested to learn more about this type of engine because, until its come up in this topic, I wasn’t aware of it. If you have an open mind, you can learn something new every day.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h2QxEXYlc2w

and here’s one running:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-OqYFB4ofY

Great video that Driveroneuk, obviously now you have posted that Bking will be telling us all that the only way you can get one of these engines to run backwards is to turn the belts over that drive it, seriously though I have seen cutaway engines like that before but never a TS3, they do make a lot more noise than that in service though, especially when passing Dan Punchard’s Dennis Pax, which is quite a regular occurrence.

Can you run a diesel on vegetable oil? It’s so similar it’s not worth arguing over

Your only jealous commer because your rotten low geared 13 tonner,can’t cruise as fast or stop as the 16 tonne plastic pig.

Tipper Tom:
Can you run a diesel on vegetable oil? It’s so similar it’s not worth arguing over

I’ve done it with second hand stuff ,it stinks ,you can’t get started very well ,and you need to keep plenty of filters with you ,It sticks to everything ,and takes ages to run through to get rid ,( cheap motoring though) !

I’ve had a thing for the TS3 since I could hear one running outside the classroom window at college - the HNC boys rebuilt it every year.

Love the Junkers Jumo animation - thanks! Coincidentally, I found myself working on the Leyland L60 at REME in Long Eaton in the 70s; this also was a 6-cyl vertically-opposed-piston multi-fuel engine (I believe a copy of the RR K60) fitted in Chieftain tanks - the Shah of Iran had sent all his back because they were too smoky!

Dan Punchard:

Tipper Tom:
Can you run a diesel on vegetable oil? It’s so similar it’s not worth arguing over

I’ve done it with second hand stuff ,it stinks ,you can’t get started very well ,and you need to keep plenty of filters with you ,It sticks to everything ,and takes ages to run through to get rid ,( cheap motoring though) ![/quote

I was trying to illustrate that if the engine will run on vegetable oil. There’s no reason it won’t run on engine oil.

I know a few guys who ran their off road (not road legal) 4x4’s on engine oil and others even used old hydrolic oil, they never expected the cars to last long anyway :laughing:
The diesel engine was originally designed and ran on peanut oil :wink:

cargocargocargo:
Leyland L60 multi-fuel engine

Believe this was deigned to run on anything available in the field - kerosene, avgas, cooking oil, ā– ā– ā– ā– ā– ā– ā– , anything!

Another memory just surfaced - in the tanker drivers’ strike in the 70s, I was working at a garage serving fuel (you had to go out, put the fuel in, take the money, get the change, etc, in them days). The local 8-legger man came in but we had run out of derv. The boss said, ā€œYou get as much paraffin into him as you can, I’ll get some 2-stroke oil!ā€ Off the tipper went leaving a trail of stink-wheel smoke :smiley:

Drift:
I know a few guys who ran their off road (not road legal) 4x4’s on engine oil and others even used old hydrolic oil, they never expected the cars to last long anyway :laughing:
The diesel engine was originally designed and ran on peanut oil :wink:

A mate of mine done it with a Terrano piece of crap using practically neat veg oil, at one point he was buying the used stuff from the local chippy. I told him it would eventually knacker the injector pump but he wouldn’t listen. ā€œā€ā€œheard it on the internet its okā€ā€œā€ etc etc.
The veg oil turned the rubber diaphragm inside the pump to moosh leading to the effect of jamming the throttle wide open and it blew the motor. :laughing:

Seeing as there’s abit of an engine lesson going on, here’s a good animation of the apposed piston Napier Deltic engine-

With its ports at the end of each cylinder.
Once built for mine sweepers and landing craft in WW2, they were later adapted for rail use.
Very powerful for their size, each Deltic locomotive has 2 rated at 1650 HP each for a total of 3300HP.
They were rated at nearer 3000HP each in marine use.

Some more info and pictures here-
atomictoasters.com/2011/01/the-napier-deltic/

Several lads at the quarry ran their Foden’s on a % of old chip oil with no problems as long as the fuel pipes were lagged with hot water hose from the radiator. Transits and LDV vans will accept it OK as long as a Bosch pump is fitted, Lucas/CAV are not so tolerant. The guy who does my MOT’s runs his Japanese 4X4 on filtered hydraulic oil and has had no problems.

Pete.

Gembo:
Seeing as there’s abit of an engine lesson going on, here’s a good animation of the apposed piston Napier Deltic engine-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D3bj47TAYiU
With its ports at the end of each cylinder.
Once built for mine sweepers and landing craft in WW2, they were later adapted for rail use.
Very powerful for their size, each Deltic locomotive has 2 rated at 1650 HP each for a total of 3300HP.
They were rated at nearer 3000HP each in marine use.

Some more info and pictures here-
atomictoasters.com/2011/01/the-napier-deltic/

I can imagine trying to spill time that engine and getting it wrong :open_mouth:

This threads great !! And bking … Your wrong just admit it

Correct me where I’m wrong wasn’t military equipment designed to be multi fueled?? The theory being it would run on just about anything from paraffin to heating oil

Used to run my old bn2 vw passat 1600 on a 75%tescos pure veg oil and diesel mix , it used to run better than regular diesel although it used to smell like a mobile deep fat frier , unfortunately they bumped the price up and I wouldn’t risk running modern pump on it let alone a common rail setup

windrush:
Several lads at the quarry ran their Foden’s on a % of old chip oil with no problems as long as the fuel pipes were lagged with hot water hose from the radiator. Transits and LDV vans will accept it OK as long as a Bosch pump is fitted, Lucas/CAV are not so tolerant. The guy who does my MOT’s runs his Japanese 4X4 on filtered hydraulic oil and has had no problems.

Pete.

After buying a mint little Peugeot 205 turbo off fleabay to run about in, was gutted to find it has a Lucas pump :frowning: Oh well, I’ll just have to put up with it only doing 50 - 60 mpg on white. :laughing:

Gembo:
Seeing as there’s abit of an engine lesson going on, here’s a good animation of the apposed piston Napier Deltic engine-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D3bj47TAYiU
With its ports at the end of each cylinder.
Once built for mine sweepers and landing craft in WW2, they were later adapted for rail use.
Very powerful for their size, each Deltic locomotive has 2 rated at 1650 HP each for a total of 3300HP.
They were rated at nearer 3000HP each in marine use.

Some more info and pictures here-
atomictoasters.com/2011/01/the-napier-deltic/

youtube.com/watch?v=4UM6yPQ0zmU

Wheel Nut:
I can imagine trying to spill time that engine and getting it wrong :open_mouth:

You wana see the phasing gears on them that time the 3 cranks and pumps together! :open_mouth: :open_mouth:

Carryfast:
youtube.com/watch?v=4UM6yPQ0zmU

What an awesome sound that is! Can a diesel engine sound any better!

As we seem to have drifted off the rails anyway, here you go, a Deltic powered cab ride in the snow. Sounds well when pulling at 4.45

Muppetmk1:
This threads great !! And bking … Your wrong just admit it

I don’t think he even knew about any of this earlier stuff such as the Deltic/Napier engine.

Driveroneuk:
As we seem to have drifted off the rails anyway, here you go, a Deltic powered cab ride in the snow. Sounds well when pulling at 4.45

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OkbJR-nUEuk

Excellent video, on which line was it filmed? Seem to be a bit keener than 25mph :laughing: