Rumania whats happened?

dmradu:
Same work at half price. And?

And so that’s why they are used. Not because they are in some way better but because of wage arbitrage. Because Romania has the cost base of a post-Communist economy.

Harry Monk:

dmradu:
Same work at half price. And?

And so that’s why they are used. Not because they are in some way better but because of wage arbitrage. Because Romania has the cost base of a post-Communist economy.

i delivered into a homebase store this week and the goods in guy said that the dc that supplies them (dont know which one) has taken on 30 Romanian drivers too take over the roles that were going too agency drivers.

A rumanian motor is parked up in doncaster at the minuite ,4 times over the limit :open_mouth:

scotstrucker:

Harry Monk:

dmradu:
Same work at half price. And?

And so that’s why they are used. Not because they are in some way better but because of wage arbitrage. Because Romania has the cost base of a post-Communist economy.

i delivered into a homebase store this week and the goods in guy said that the dc that supplies them (dont know which one) has taken on 30 Romanian drivers too take over the roles that were going too agency drivers.

I went by a Wickes store in Barking last week about 7am, and there must of been 30+ rumos/similar standing around in their builders gear waiting to try and get a days work labouring.

chilistrucker:
I went by a Wickes store in Barking last week about 7am, and there must of been 30+ rumos/similar standing around in their builders gear waiting to try and get a days work labouring.

Yes, I tip regularly at Selco Barking which is just down the road (Hertford Road) and the flip-flops are always stood outside Wickes, every time I go there. The bloke on the forklift at Selco told me they work for £30 a day whatever their trade but are generally considered to be pretty useless.

Harry Monk:

chilistrucker:
I went by a Wickes store in Barking last week about 7am, and there must of been 30+ rumos/similar standing around in their builders gear waiting to try and get a days work labouring.

Yes, I tip regularly at Selco Barking which is just down the road (Hertford Road) and the flip-flops are always stood outside Wickes, every time I go there. The bloke on the forklift at Selco told me they work for £30 a day whatever their trade but are generally considered to be pretty useless.

what goes round…in the 60s,all the paddys were standing in edgeware road waiting on a days casual,or building the m1…in the 70s,and 80s,it was head to saudi,or it was the auf weiderschen boys in germany…and now due to the fops in the goverment,its please come and finish britain off as if its not bad enough already.the gentlemen from pakistan are quite happy using the flipflops for casual labour as they work for even less that the other gentlemen from pakistan…thats how its working in glasgow at the moment anyway…

seth 70:
A rumanian motor is parked up in doncaster at the minuite ,4 times over the limit :open_mouth:

Hows the driver taking it cos he must be pretty ■■■■■■ to know his motor is 4 times over the limit, hang on, what limit is the truck over ? :slight_smile: :wink: :wink:

raymundo:

seth 70:
A rumanian motor is parked up in doncaster at the minuite ,4 times over the limit :open_mouth:

Hows the driver taking it cos he must be pretty ■■■■■■ to know his motor is 4 times over the limit, hang on, what limit is the truck over ? :slight_smile: :wink: :wink:

:laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: The driver turned up at next armthorpe,when he went to security the gaurds could smell ale so they stopped him at the gatehouse and rung the police,dont know what else happened as i havent been back, that explains it a bit better raymundo : :blush:

MB said

very old news now,where have you been for the last 4 years?

MB
Only just starting to effect the fish export work now, and some scottish drivers are losing there jobs to these eastern block operators, we cannot compete price wise,no Scot trucks are doing the multi drop Italys with fresh and frozen out of DFDS which we used to do,about 20 loads per week.
Our French work has halved since the French company that we work for has Rumo registered trucks pulling there trailers, for a lot less than the french and Brit haulage firms can do it for.
As i said its downhill from here for us .
Klunk

My feelings are, the cabotage rules are allowing the eastern block trucks to load, France to UK and back to France and never load back to there country of origin to give the drivers time to relax and be with there families to get clothes washed, as some of them stink.
Where are the trucks serviced and inspected ■■?v as ours are service monthly with 6 week inspection
There is a lot in the French press about this now.
I reccon two weeks away, then a long weekend at home, for 45 hrs off plus catch up, as a lot of our drivers do should be the rule.

Klunk

As you say it is now impossible to compete.I have a Dutch friend who drives up from Holland to Tromsö,but only in the winter as the Dutch exporters pay a premium for experienced winter drivers.He gets €6000 from Holland to Tromsö with veg\fruit,and €3000 back with fish.After the snow has gone the EE trucks do the ''round trip for €6000. :open_mouth:

I work for Norberts in France, i was speaking to one of our Romanian drivers about wages he told me that he receives 60 euros a day and 80 euros for weekends.
He spends 4 weeks away each time then 2 weeks at home, when home he only receives the normal payment for a worker back in Romania.

seth 70:
A rumanian motor is parked up in doncaster at the minuite ,4 times over the limit :open_mouth:

And this has never happened to a British motor,4 times over the limit ? :open_mouth:
Pathetic effort by the way, only 4 times over :smiling_imp:

muckles:
Yes loads of Romanian registered trucks, knocking around Europe, either owned by Western European haulage companies or pulling their trailers, I’m sat opposite one now, it’s owned by a Dutch firm, judging by the name, E van Wijk.

But a couple of years ago you saw the same thing with Polish trucks in well known liveries, so I think the people most affected by this are not french and British drivers they’ve already seen the majority of thier international work go, more Polish drivers who’ve been priced out.

van wijks have had a place in romania for some time now (as well as ukraine)

and now a lot of the polish trucks are driven by romanians/ buglarians as they are cheaper

euromat:

muckles:
Yes loads of Romanian registered trucks, knocking around Europe, either owned by Western European haulage companies or pulling their trailers, I’m sat opposite one now, it’s owned by a Dutch firm, judging by the name, E van Wijk.

But a couple of years ago you saw the same thing with Polish trucks in well known liveries, so I think the people most affected by this are not french and British drivers they’ve already seen the majority of thier international work go, more Polish drivers who’ve been priced out.

van wijks have had a place in romania for some time now (as well as ukraine)

and now a lot of the polish trucks are driven by romanians/ buglarians as they are cheaper

This bit makes me laugh, the polish were the first “cheap labour from the east” but now there all moaning because the romanians/bulgarians are working for much less then them.

Its modern europe, i would love to think that what the germans have already brought in, and what the french want to bring in with the local minimum wage when driving in that land will help but i doubt it very much.

Look at this map of average wages. Romania €423/month. UK €2723/month. France €2410/month

Craig 111:
As for average wages, I don’t know many people earning that sum here in France, especially truck drivers!

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You are kidding, I just put My salary into a currency converter and it is over 3500 euro a month, that’s excluding weekend work, meal allowance and night out money. I thought the French truck drivers were militant strike happy union monkeys, doesn’t seem to have done them a lot off good :unamused: maybe they should embrace the free market :wink:

Don’t look like I’ll be doing any Euro work, so even after 29years I’ll never make a professional driver :wink:

It makes me laugh when a lot of people moan about european work, if you would offer any of the EE drivers to choose between euro work and tramping mon to fri, and get a little bit less I would imagine 80% would take the job straight away.

For an EE it is just a job that pays the bills, for trucknet users its a holy grail or something. :smiley:

I must admit it would be interesting to do runs from the Baltics to Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan, Afghanistan as it is something new and interesting.