Had an accident at work not driving. Heard it was a RIDDOR accident just wondering what the procedures are etc. Do I contact Union. Not going into details but looks like it was because of someone else’s negligence.
I thought RIDDOR was only for serious accidents, or minor accidents that include gases. (not bottom burps).
as I understand the rules, it is managements duty to report such an accident. RIDDOR merely means that it is an accident that needs to be reported to the H&SE.
The management in question is the management of the place the accident occured and so may not have anything to do with your employer if not at home base etc.
Unless you are not simply an employee I don’t think that YOU need to do anything .Possibly if you are a LTD company then it may be different.
AS far as contacting the union, it can’t do any harm and if you have been injured it will help speed up any compensation that is due.
thats my understanding but I will accept correction if wrong.
I ended up unconscious at home base. Full time employee for blue chip company.
I knocked myself out in Travis Perkins once…
After coming to, I carried on working and forgot about it…
Literally.
LIBERTY_GUY:
I thought RIDDOR was only for serious accidents, or minor accidents that include gases. (not bottom burps).
I think the “gases” bit is more like “exposing the public to dangerous substances” of all types.
Examples might include A gas leak, a bare wire in a public building, a chemical spill, or an uncontrolled vehicle movement in a car park…
Accidents causing hospitalization I think have to be reported - but not those that can be patched up by first aid. Scuffing your leg tripping up the stairs therefore would not be RIDDOR, but falling down the stairs and breaking your leg would. (At work)
It depends how long you have off work as well - I think if you can’t perform normal duties for 3 days that makes it reportable
You have the right to have someone with you at ANY interview / investigation meeting. If your in the union have the rep present or a well trusted work colleague.
Depends on the seriousness record the meeting by use of your phone or some device and take notes…
The following is copied from the HSE website, it is also clear from other info on that website that an accident resulting in unconsciousness due to a head injury or from asphyxiation is a reportable accident under RIDDOR:-
"The RIDDOR reporting system is only ;for notification of those incidents which require reports under the RIDDOR regulations. Reports should only be submitted ‘Responsible Persons’ with duties under these regulations, such as employers, the self-employed, and those in control of work premises where incidents occur. It is not appropriate for injured persons, members of the public or others who do not have duties under RIDDOR to use this reporting system.
If you are an employee and have suffered a work-related injury, or have been diagnosed as suffering from a work related reportable disease, you should inform your employer. If you are concerned that your employer or other Responsible Person has not made a required report you should:
ask them if they have reported the incident, and/or;
approach your employee or TU representative
If you still feel that your accident or work related disease has not been properly reported, you may raise your concern with HSE.
If you wish to tell HSE about an incident, or have concerns about ongoing risks to health and safety, please refer to our advice."
jurassic:
It depends how long you have off work as well - I think if you can’t perform normal duties for 3 days that makes it reportable
For your maiden speech, it’s hardly upto Mahri Black standards, but “welcome to TNUK” in any case…
Hope you’re not one of those shy types who lurked before voting Tory on May 7th as well.
I wonder how many RIDDOR-qualifying incidents don’t get reported - because the person responsible doesn’t actually want to be held responsible.
I bet Merlin wished they’d gone BOSH “here’s a million quid girly for losing your leg” rather than pants around with “who’s liable” and losing over that amount a day from around their playground empire?
The more you try and fight off or deny responsibility when it’s clear you’re bang-to-rights, the more you’ll end up losing.
RIDDOR Is a re-portable accident if you cant work for more than 7 days. (use to be 3) It must be logged and signed by management. You have to make a statement, and sign into accident book on the premises. Either on the day of the accident or few days later. Once its logged, then it is up to a company to compensate you, if they disagree, Injury lawyers 4 u. ETC…
Key is to Log it into the accident book as soon as you able. If u haven’t done that: no accident ever occurred.
Here’s the bit about loss of consciousness:-
"The list of ‘specified injuries’ in RIDDOR 2013 replaces the previous list of ‘major injuries’ in RIDDOR 1995. Specified injuries are (regulation 4):
fractures, other than to fingers, thumbs and toes
amputations
any injury likely to lead to permanent loss of sight or reduction in sight
any crush injury to the head or torso causing damage to the brain or internal organs
serious burns (including scalding) which:
covers more than 10% of the body
causes significant damage to the eyes, respiratory system or other vital organs
any scalping requiring hospital treatment
any loss of consciousness caused by head injury or asphyxia
any other injury arising from working in an enclosed space which:
leads to hypothermia or heat-induced illness
requires resuscitation or admittance to hospital for more than 24 hours
For further guidance on specified injuries is available."
I don’t think merely “putting it in the accident book” counts as “RIDDOR”. You go around a lot of depots, and you see that they might have had 3 or 4 RIDDORS in the past year.
You look at the accident book (at least at places I’ve worked) and you’ll see hundreds of entries per month for things like “accidentally stubbed out ■■■ on Joe’s arm” or “stubbed finger on light switch”…
I’m serious!
LASHHGV:
Had an accident at work not driving. Heard it was a RIDDOR accident just wondering what the procedures are etc. Do I contact Union. Not going into details but looks like it was because of someone else’s negligence.
So what was the accident… Slip on a wet floor by any chance ?.. Anyway as long as its in the accident book, If the business has completed a RIDDOR report is part of a standard procedure… nothing to worry about, no you don’t have to contact a Union
If they get investigated by the local borough council over H&S concerns, its there problem not yours
accident must be logged into the book.
Later it is up to a lawyers to argue the outcome of it.
Riddor is a type of an accident, commonly known as more serious accident with time off work and possible injury repercussions into a future.
If you cut a finger: weeee bit of plaster, half a day off, It was logged into the book. Done sorted.
If you broke a leg: that is a bit more serious. Lost time off work, 3 month. Some one has to pay to provide to the guy who cant work now.
That is Riddor.
Object hitting head. Not a slip.
I’m not a LGV driver, so please be gentle with me… I do hold a managerial position in another industry, so ‘may’ be able to offer some info.
As most of you will probably know, RIDDOR is the reporting of injuries, diseases, and dangerous occurrence regulations. A facility operator or their representative have a legal responsibility to report any such incidents, and must report such if there is any doubt over if a report is required. Ie., not too sure if something would be considered a dangerous occurance. An example could be someone hurting their knee after slipping on a badly worn step when climbing onto a trailer. A union safety rep is entitled to see evidence of such reports, and may speak with the HSE directly concerning a report. Without an employer or such being informed of any communication.
Anyone being knocked out would be reportable as an injury. Something being dropped by someone and striking someone would be reportable as a dangerous occurance. If something is dropped due to a lifting equipment failure, that’s also reportable. So I’d suggest there’s at least two reasons for the HSE to be notified, even without seeing the accident report!
SiAmon:
I’m not a LGV driver, so please be gentle with me… [emoji38] I do hold a managerial position in another industry, so ‘may’ be able to offer some info.As most of you will probably know, RIDDOR is the reporting of injuries, diseases, and dangerous occurrence regulations. A facility operator or their representative have a legal responsibility to report any such incidents, and must report such if there is any doubt over if a report is required. Ie., not too sure if something would be considered a dangerous occurance. An example could be someone hurting their knee after slipping on a badly worn step when climbing onto a trailer. A union safety rep is entitled to see evidence of such reports, and may speak with the HSE directly concerning a report. Without an employer or such being informed of any communication.
Anyone being knocked out would be reportable as an injury. Something being dropped by someone and striking someone would be reportable as a dangerous occurance. If something is dropped due to a lifting equipment failure, that’s also reportable. So I’d suggest there’s at least two reasons for the HSE to be notified, even without seeing the accident report!
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SiAmon:
I’m not a LGV driver, so please be gentle with me… [emoji38] I do hold a managerial position in another industry, so ‘may’ be able to offer some info.As most of you will probably know, RIDDOR is the reporting of injuries, diseases, and dangerous occurrence regulations. A facility operator or their representative have a legal responsibility to report any such incidents, and must report such if there is any doubt over if a report is required. Ie., not too sure if something would be considered a dangerous occurance. An example could be someone hurting their knee after slipping on a badly worn step when climbing onto a trailer. A union safety rep is entitled to see evidence of such reports, and may speak with the HSE directly concerning a report. Without an employer or such being informed of any communication.
Anyone being knocked out would be reportable as an injury. Something being dropped by someone and striking someone would be reportable as a dangerous occurance. If something is dropped due to a lifting equipment failure, that’s also reportable. So I’d suggest there’s at least two reasons for the HSE to be notified, even without seeing the accident report!
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