Havin spent a couple of days in the demo we have I think they are a very good lorry, if the price is good they will sell lots and lots.
Also dealer says we should have the high cab next year.
senior50:
Havin spent a couple of days in the demo we have I think they are a very good lorry, if the price is good they will sell lots and lots.
Also dealer says we should have the high cab next year.[/quoteddo they tip a bit on the conors like the magnums
No thay handle very well very positive you can push on a bit with them. One of the things I didn’t like the bed is a bit small behind the seats. But fit and finsh is very good you can see volvo all over them.
senior50:
No thay handle very well very positive you can push on a bit with them. One of the things I didn’t like the bed is a bit small behind the seats. But fit and finsh is very good you can see volvo all over them.
I see what you mean they do look a bit like the new Volvo and the old magnums had a lot of parts off Volvos and orther lorries do they still have a Mack engine and a daf gearbox
No all volvo
We have had this discussion before. The MP4 and FH4 don’t look that great with a plastic grille. I think the Renault will look more swan-like with the grille painted.
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I liked the Magnum… These look bloody awful though.
ERF MAN:
irish lorries:
Diesel Tug:
Definitely the ugliest truck on the road, typical crap french design thank god we are not getting their magnum update, they can keep it.It’s not as ugly as a Magnum and it could be a good lorry you shouldn’t just Judge a lorry on how it looks
Why not, looks are everything, you wouldn’t buy a new range rover if you didn’t like the way it looked, would you?
With all due respect, its not a Range Rover its a working tool. If I were an operator, which I’m not, then with my previous time with driving Renaults, including 11 years on Premiums then I’d have one like a shot, if as used to be with the case with Premiums the price isnt premium.
Never had any issues with the Premiums, and all were pre Volvo sticking their nose in 385/420dci. Never could understand why Renault needed Volvo driveline and running gear, one thing they did well was driveline/running gear, especialy once they dropped the B18 for the ZF gearbox .
The cab rot and electrics on earlier models, G nad R cabs left a little to be desired though.
Luckily I’m not an operator, so I can say all this whilst sitting on the bed in my topline Scania because I dont pay for it
eddie snax:
ERF MAN:
irish lorries:
Diesel Tug:
Definitely the ugliest truck on the road, typical crap french design thank god we are not getting their magnum update, they can keep it.It’s not as ugly as a Magnum and it could be a good lorry you shouldn’t just Judge a lorry on how it looks
Why not, looks are everything, you wouldn’t buy a new range rover if you didn’t like the way it looked, would you?
With all due respect, its not a Range Rover its a working tool. If I were an operator, which I’m not, then with my previous time with driving Renaults, including 11 years on Premiums then I’d have one like a shot, if as used to be with the case with Premiums the price isnt premium.
Never had any issues with the Premiums, and all were pre Volvo sticking their nose in 385/420dci. Never could understand why Renault needed Volvo driveline and running gear, one thing they did well was driveline/running gear, especialy once they dropped the B18 for the ZF gearbox .The cab rot and electrics on earlier models, G nad R cabs left a little to be desired though.
Luckily I’m not an operator, so I can say all this whilst sitting on the bed in my topline Scania because I dont pay for it
Your not wrong with a lot of that mate but I am an operator and a driver and I talk to a lot of colleagues who have had them as I have had myself and there are other cheap trucks such as Ivecos and MANs that I would rather spend my money on before I bought one. Put it this way, there are no bad trucks anymore so why by an ugly one. As we can’t all afford scanias I would rather have a stralis on looks alone. Just my opinion
ERF MAN:
eddie snax:
ERF MAN:
irish lorries:
Diesel Tug:
Definitely the ugliest truck on the road, typical crap french design thank god we are not getting their magnum update, they can keep it.It’s not as ugly as a Magnum and it could be a good lorry you shouldn’t just Judge a lorry on how it looks
Why not, looks are everything, you wouldn’t buy a new range rover if you didn’t like the way it looked, would you?
With all due respect, its not a Range Rover its a working tool. If I were an operator, which I’m not, then with my previous time with driving Renaults, including 11 years on Premiums then I’d have one like a shot, if as used to be with the case with Premiums the price isnt premium.
Never had any issues with the Premiums, and all were pre Volvo sticking their nose in 385/420dci. Never could understand why Renault needed Volvo driveline and running gear, one thing they did well was driveline/running gear, especialy once they dropped the B18 for the ZF gearbox .The cab rot and electrics on earlier models, G nad R cabs left a little to be desired though.
Luckily I’m not an operator, so I can say all this whilst sitting on the bed in my topline Scania because I dont pay for it
Your not wrong with a lot of that mate but I am an operator and a driver and I talk to a lot of colleagues who have had them as I have had myself and there are other cheap trucks such as Ivecos and MANs that I would rather spend my money on before I bought one. Put it this way, there are no bad trucks anymore so why by an ugly one. As we can’t all afford scanias I would rather have a stralis on looks alone. Just my opinion
Well on operating a truck you have the heads up on Me, but I will allways maintain that the Renaults that Ive driven were allways decent enough trucks to get on with. As far as Strallis goes I dont like the look off them, beauty in the eye off the beholder and all that.
If an MAN is priced similar to a T range then I’d say it was a lot better truck for the price, had an MAN 480 on demo for a couple off weeks in 2012, and was really impressed, would go as far as to say that I’d swap the Topline for one if offered.
As far as affording Scanias, well how I see it, the customer doesnt pay you extra to do their work because you operate a Scania or the like, so I dont see the logic to operating one, but I’m not going to shout that to loudly in our traffic office
eddie snax:
ERF MAN:
eddie snax:
ERF MAN:
irish lorries:
Diesel Tug:
Definitely the ugliest truck on the road, typical crap french design thank god we are not getting their magnum update, they can keep it.It’s not as ugly as a Magnum and it could be a good lorry you shouldn’t just Judge a lorry on how it looks
Why not, looks are everything, you wouldn’t buy a new range rover if you didn’t like the way it looked, would you?
With all due respect, its not a Range Rover its a working tool. If I were an operator, which I’m not, then with my previous time with driving Renaults, including 11 years on Premiums then I’d have one like a shot, if as used to be with the case with Premiums the price isnt premium.
Never had any issues with the Premiums, and all were pre Volvo sticking their nose in 385/420dci. Never could understand why Renault needed Volvo driveline and running gear, one thing they did well was driveline/running gear, especialy once they dropped the B18 for the ZF gearbox .The cab rot and electrics on earlier models, G nad R cabs left a little to be desired though.
Luckily I’m not an operator, so I can say all this whilst sitting on the bed in my topline Scania because I dont pay for it
Your not wrong with a lot of that mate but I am an operator and a driver and I talk to a lot of colleagues who have had them as I have had myself and there are other cheap trucks such as Ivecos and MANs that I would rather spend my money on before I bought one. Put it this way, there are no bad trucks anymore so why by an ugly one. As we can’t all afford scanias I would rather have a stralis on looks alone. Just my opinion
Well on operating a truck you have the heads up on Me, but I will allways maintain that the Renaults that Ive driven were allways decent enough trucks to get on with. As far as Strallis goes I dont like the look off them, beauty in the eye off the beholder and all that.
If an MAN is priced similar to a T range then I’d say it was a lot better truck for the price, had an MAN 480 on demo for a couple off weeks in 2012, and was really impressed, would go as far as to say that I’d swap the Topline for one if offered.As far as affording Scanias, well how I see it, the customer doesnt pay you extra to do their work because you operate a Scania or the like, so I dont see the logic to operating one, but I’m not going to shout that to loudly in our traffic office
For a start I don’t run scanias, different league, but my point is it’s not about earning more with a Scania it’s about spending less over the life of the vehicle. They cost less in the long run but I know for a fact that spec for spec the Scania will be 20k more than any of the cheaper 5 trucks on the market and I for one can’t afford it. Stupid really, i should sell the range rover and get one.
Ps do yourself a favour and keep you mouth shut about swapping you top line for anything other than a new FH or Actros. Be careful what you wish for.
ERF MAN:
eddie snax:
ERF MAN:
eddie snax:
ERF MAN:
irish lorries:
Diesel Tug:
Definitely the ugliest truck on the road, typical crap french design thank god we are not getting their magnum update, they can keep it.It’s not as ugly as a Magnum and it could be a good lorry you shouldn’t just Judge a lorry on how it looks
Why not, looks are everything, you wouldn’t buy a new range rover if you didn’t like the way it looked, would you?
With all due respect, its not a Range Rover its a working tool. If I were an operator, which I’m not, then with my previous time with driving Renaults, including 11 years on Premiums then I’d have one like a shot, if as used to be with the case with Premiums the price isnt premium.
Never had any issues with the Premiums, and all were pre Volvo sticking their nose in 385/420dci. Never could understand why Renault needed Volvo driveline and running gear, one thing they did well was driveline/running gear, especialy once they dropped the B18 for the ZF gearbox .The cab rot and electrics on earlier models, G nad R cabs left a little to be desired though.
Luckily I’m not an operator, so I can say all this whilst sitting on the bed in my topline Scania because I dont pay for it
Your not wrong with a lot of that mate but I am an operator and a driver and I talk to a lot of colleagues who have had them as I have had myself and there are other cheap trucks such as Ivecos and MANs that I would rather spend my money on before I bought one. Put it this way, there are no bad trucks anymore so why by an ugly one. As we can’t all afford scanias I would rather have a stralis on looks alone. Just my opinion
Well on operating a truck you have the heads up on Me, but I will allways maintain that the Renaults that Ive driven were allways decent enough trucks to get on with. As far as Strallis goes I dont like the look off them, beauty in the eye off the beholder and all that.
If an MAN is priced similar to a T range then I’d say it was a lot better truck for the price, had an MAN 480 on demo for a couple off weeks in 2012, and was really impressed, would go as far as to say that I’d swap the Topline for one if offered.As far as affording Scanias, well how I see it, the customer doesnt pay you extra to do their work because you operate a Scania or the like, so I dont see the logic to operating one, but I’m not going to shout that to loudly in our traffic office
For a start I don’t run scanias, different league, but my point is it’s not about earning more with a Scania it’s about spending less over the life of the vehicle. They cost less in the long run but I know for a fact that spec for spec the Scania will be 20k more than any of the cheaper 5 trucks on the market and I for one can’t afford it. Stupid really, i should sell the range rover and get one.
Ps do yourself a favour and keep you mouth shut about swapping you top line for anything other than a new FH or Actros. Be careful what you wish for.
I now scanias are not cheap but when you sell it on again you would’t lose as much as any other make and I would swap a topline for a tgx too just to try one they seen to be very good lorries
ERF MAN:
eddie snax:
ERF MAN:
eddie snax:
ERF MAN:
irish lorries:
Diesel Tug:
Definitely the ugliest truck on the road, typical crap french design thank god we are not getting their magnum update, they can keep it.It’s not as ugly as a Magnum and it could be a good lorry you shouldn’t just Judge a lorry on how it looks
Why not, looks are everything, you wouldn’t buy a new range rover if you didn’t like the way it looked, would you?
With all due respect, its not a Range Rover its a working tool. If I were an operator, which I’m not, then with my previous time with driving Renaults, including 11 years on Premiums then I’d have one like a shot, if as used to be with the case with Premiums the price isnt premium.
Never had any issues with the Premiums, and all were pre Volvo sticking their nose in 385/420dci. Never could understand why Renault needed Volvo driveline and running gear, one thing they did well was driveline/running gear, especialy once they dropped the B18 for the ZF gearbox .The cab rot and electrics on earlier models, G nad R cabs left a little to be desired though.
Luckily I’m not an operator, so I can say all this whilst sitting on the bed in my topline Scania because I dont pay for it
Your not wrong with a lot of that mate but I am an operator and a driver and I talk to a lot of colleagues who have had them as I have had myself and there are other cheap trucks such as Ivecos and MANs that I would rather spend my money on before I bought one. Put it this way, there are no bad trucks anymore so why by an ugly one. As we can’t all afford scanias I would rather have a stralis on looks alone. Just my opinion
Well on operating a truck you have the heads up on Me, but I will allways maintain that the Renaults that Ive driven were allways decent enough trucks to get on with. As far as Strallis goes I dont like the look off them, beauty in the eye off the beholder and all that.
If an MAN is priced similar to a T range then I’d say it was a lot better truck for the price, had an MAN 480 on demo for a couple off weeks in 2012, and was really impressed, would go as far as to say that I’d swap the Topline for one if offered.As far as affording Scanias, well how I see it, the customer doesnt pay you extra to do their work because you operate a Scania or the like, so I dont see the logic to operating one, but I’m not going to shout that to loudly in our traffic office
For a start I don’t run scanias, different league, but my point is it’s not about earning more with a Scania it’s about spending less over the life of the vehicle. They cost less in the long run but I know for a fact that spec for spec the Scania will be 20k more than any of the cheaper 5 trucks on the market and I for one can’t afford it. Stupid really, i should sell the range rover and get one.
Ps do yourself a favour and keep you mouth shut about swapping you top line for anything other than a new FH or Actros. Be careful what you wish for.
Yes I agree with you, thats what I was saying about a customer wont pay more for you to operate a Scania or the like, And credit to you for being intrested in your bottom line, rather than the badge.
PS I will keep it quiet about my vehicle preference, but I’m the sort off driver who’d drive a Premium or that bracket off truck, its about the cash at the end off the week
First time up close and personal to one. Got to admit they look a lot better in the flesh and not painted in that god awful brown colour that Renault got from somewhere. Still not as nice as the Volvo, DAF or Merc imo. Driver seemed to really rate it though, said it was a big improvement over the Premium.
If it wasn’t for the big thick chunky trim bit which runs across the top of the grill and down the side of the headlights it wouldn’t look too bad.
eddie snax:
ERF MAN:
eddie snax:
ERF MAN:
eddie snax:
ERF MAN:
irish lorries:
Diesel Tug:
Definitely the ugliest truck on the road, typical crap french design thank god we are not getting their magnum update, they can keep it.It’s not as ugly as a Magnum and it could be a good lorry you shouldn’t just Judge a lorry on how it looks
Why not, looks are everything, you wouldn’t buy a new range rover if you didn’t like the way it looked, would you?
With all due respect, its not a Range Rover its a working tool. If I were an operator, which I’m not, then with my previous time with driving Renaults, including 11 years on Premiums then I’d have one like a shot, if as used to be with the case with Premiums the price isnt premium.
Never had any issues with the Premiums, and all were pre Volvo sticking their nose in 385/420dci. Never could understand why Renault needed Volvo driveline and running gear, one thing they did well was driveline/running gear, especialy once they dropped the B18 for the ZF gearbox .The cab rot and electrics on earlier models, G nad R cabs left a little to be desired though.
Luckily I’m not an operator, so I can say all this whilst sitting on the bed in my topline Scania because I dont pay for it
Your not wrong with a lot of that mate but I am an operator and a driver and I talk to a lot of colleagues who have had them as I have had myself and there are other cheap trucks such as Ivecos and MANs that I would rather spend my money on before I bought one. Put it this way, there are no bad trucks anymore so why by an ugly one. As we can’t all afford scanias I would rather have a stralis on looks alone. Just my opinion
Well on operating a truck you have the heads up on Me, but I will allways maintain that the Renaults that Ive driven were allways decent enough trucks to get on with. As far as Strallis goes I dont like the look off them, beauty in the eye off the beholder and all that.
If an MAN is priced similar to a T range then I’d say it was a lot better truck for the price, had an MAN 480 on demo for a couple off weeks in 2012, and was really impressed, would go as far as to say that I’d swap the Topline for one if offered.As far as affording Scanias, well how I see it, the customer doesnt pay you extra to do their work because you operate a Scania or the like, so I dont see the logic to operating one, but I’m not going to shout that to loudly in our traffic office
For a start I don’t run scanias, different league, but my point is it’s not about earning more with a Scania it’s about spending less over the life of the vehicle. They cost less in the long run but I know for a fact that spec for spec the Scania will be 20k more than any of the cheaper 5 trucks on the market and I for one can’t afford it. Stupid really, i should sell the range rover and get one.
Ps do yourself a favour and keep you mouth shut about swapping you top line for anything other than a new FH or Actros. Be careful what you wish for.
Yes I agree with you, thats what I was saying about a customer wont pay more for you to operate a Scania or the like, And credit to you for being intrested in your bottom line, rather than the badge.
PS I will keep it quiet about my vehicle preference, but I’m the sort off driver who’d drive a Premium or that bracket off truck, its about the cash at the end off the week
Good for you. I now where your coming from, it’s about the money because we need it and it buys nice things, but i think that you like me also likes to drive (and live) in something nice and why not if we can
eddie snax:
ERF MAN:
eddie snax:
ERF MAN:
eddie snax:
ERF MAN:
irish lorries:
Diesel Tug:
Definitely the ugliest truck on the road, typical crap french design thank god we are not getting their magnum update, they can keep it.It’s not as ugly as a Magnum and it could be a good lorry you shouldn’t just Judge a lorry on how it looks
Why not, looks are everything, you wouldn’t buy a new range rover if you didn’t like the way it looked, would you?
With all due respect, its not a Range Rover its a working tool. If I were an operator, which I’m not, then with my previous time with driving Renaults, including 11 years on Premiums then I’d have one like a shot, if as used to be with the case with Premiums the price isnt premium.
Never had any issues with the Premiums, and all were pre Volvo sticking their nose in 385/420dci. Never could understand why Renault needed Volvo driveline and running gear, one thing they did well was driveline/running gear, especialy once they dropped the B18 for the ZF gearbox .The cab rot and electrics on earlier models, G nad R cabs left a little to be desired though.
Luckily I’m not an operator, so I can say all this whilst sitting on the bed in my topline Scania because I dont pay for it
Your not wrong with a lot of that mate but I am an operator and a driver and I talk to a lot of colleagues who have had them as I have had myself and there are other cheap trucks such as Ivecos and MANs that I would rather spend my money on before I bought one. Put it this way, there are no bad trucks anymore so why by an ugly one. As we can’t all afford scanias I would rather have a stralis on looks alone. Just my opinion
Well on operating a truck you have the heads up on Me, but I will allways maintain that the Renaults that Ive driven were allways decent enough trucks to get on with. As far as Strallis goes I dont like the look off them, beauty in the eye off the beholder and all that.
If an MAN is priced similar to a T range then I’d say it was a lot better truck for the price, had an MAN 480 on demo for a couple off weeks in 2012, and was really impressed, would go as far as to say that I’d swap the Topline for one if offered.As far as affording Scanias, well how I see it, the customer doesnt pay you extra to do their work because you operate a Scania or the like, so I dont see the logic to operating one, but I’m not going to shout that to loudly in our traffic office
For a start I don’t run scanias, different league, but my point is it’s not about earning more with a Scania it’s about spending less over the life of the vehicle. They cost less in the long run but I know for a fact that spec for spec the Scania will be 20k more than any of the cheaper 5 trucks on the market and I for one can’t afford it. Stupid really, i should sell the range rover and get one.
Ps do yourself a favour and keep you mouth shut about swapping you top line for anything other than a new FH or Actros. Be careful what you wish for.
Yes I agree with you, thats what I was saying about a customer wont pay more for you to operate a Scania or the like, And credit to you for being intrested in your bottom line, rather than the badge.
PS I will keep it quiet about my vehicle preference, but I’m the sort off driver who’d drive a Premium or that bracket off truck, its about the cash at the end off the week
Very true you should be more interested in what it’s like to live in and drive rather than the badge and if I was running a company I would buy a few of them they seem like good lorries I now there just the same as the new Volvo but a lot better looking and cheaper to buy
ERF MAN:
eddie snax:
Yes I agree with you, thats what I was saying about a customer wont pay more for you to operate a Scania or the like, And credit to you for being intrested in your bottom line, rather than the badge.
PS I will keep it quiet about my vehicle preference, but I’m the sort off driver who’d drive a Premium or that bracket off truck, its about the cash at the end off the weekGood for you. I now where your coming from, it’s about the money because we need it and it buys nice things, but i think that you like me also likes to drive (and live) in something nice and why not if we can
Well thats true too, but you cant allways have everything, and in that case money wins out.
And in fairness to the original Premium, I thought it drove well if you werent on top weight work, though all off the ones I drove were proper Renaults with manual boxes though they were a tight squeeze to live in if you were tramping, but do able