reduced weekly rest

[ebabes]

just wondering who many times can you reduce the weekly rest before you have to play catch up, Basically I have had my 45 hour rest, so wiping the slate clean, then will be working 2 days, taking a reduced rest of 24hours (which will be more like 38hours) to then be able to work 5 days on the trott. I am then being asked to take another reduced rest which will be anything between 24 - 38 hours then finish the week (working 3 days) to get to the weekend which is when I will have 45 - 64 hours to make up for the reduce rest, basically is it legal to have 2 reduced rests one after another?

wow that was hard to explain, hope it came across right

[dustylfc]

you can reduce weekly rest once in a 2 week period and the rest is taken in a block your catch up hours should be finished by the end of the third week

[coffeeholic]

dustylfc:
you can reduce weekly rest once in a 2 week period and the rest is taken in a block your catch up hours should be finished by the end of the third week

End of the fourth week, the end of the third week following the reduction.

You can also reduce your weekly rest more than once in a two week period. The regulation is that any two week period must have at least one full and one reduced rest. That is the minimum requirement but as with all minimums you can have more than that. In a two week period you could have two or three reduced rest periods and a full rest for instance.

I had a full weekly rest last week and I am currently on my second reduced weekly rest period of this week. I had one on Thursday so I could work Saturday and I started this one yesterday afternoon and will finish it tomorrow morning.

[coffeeholic]

ebabes:
basically is it legal to have 2 reduced rests one after another?

Yes. What you are doing is fine, based on the info given.

Also if both those reduced rest periods fall in the same week you will only have to compensate for one of them. If one of those reduced rest periods is also in a week with a full rest period, as I think the second one will be from what you have said, then it won’t require compensation at all.

[tachograph]

ebabes:
just wondering who many times can you reduce the weekly rest before you have to play catch up, Basically I have had my 45 hour rest, so wiping the slate clean, then will be working 2 days, taking a reduced rest of 24hours (which will be more like 38hours) to then be able to work 5 days on the trott. I am then being asked to take another reduced rest which will be anything between 24 - 38 hours then finish the week (working 3 days) to get to the weekend which is when I will have 45 - 64 hours to make up for the reduce rest, basically is it legal to have 2 reduced rests one after another?

wow that was hard to explain, hope it came across right

Yes you can have 2 consecutive reduced weekly rest periods in the same week.

The regulations state that in any two consecutive weeks you must have at least either 2 regular weekly rest periods of 45 hours or 1 regular weekly rest period and 1 reduced weekly rest period.
Basically this means that you must have at least 1 regular 45 hour weekly rest period every second week, however there’s nothing to stop you having more than 1 weekly rest period in a week.

Lets suppose you’ve had a 45 hour weekly rest for this week (week 1), next week (week 2) you work Monday and Tuesday and have Wednesday off (reduced weekly rest of 38 hours), you then work Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday and Monday before having a reduced weekly rest of lets say 24 hours on Tuesday (week 3).
You then work Wednesday, Thursday and Friday before starting a regular 45 hour weekly rest period (also in week 3).

In week 1 you had a 45 hour weekly rest.
In week 2 you had a reduced weekly rest of 38 hours.
In week 3 you had a reduced weekly rest of 24 hours but you also had a regular 45 hour weekly rest period of 45 hours.

This example has complied with the regulations because in any 2 consecutive weeks you had a regular 45 hour weekly rest and a reduced weekly rest.

Again in this example the reduced weekly rest of 24 hours in week 3 was only taken so that you did not work over six 24 hour periods without a weekly rest period so no compensation is required.
You will however have to pay back the compensation for the reduced weekly rest period in week 2.

Compensation for a reduced weekly rest period should be paid back by the end of the third week following the week in which the reduced weekly rest was taken.

If this is not clear let us know what days you will be working and we’ll try to let you know if it’s legal or not

[coffeeholic]

Beat you by a minute Tacho.

[tachograph]

Coffeeholic:
Beat you by a minute Tacho.

Yeah I noticed

Think I’ll have to have some speed typing lessons

[ebabes]

thanks tacho I’m glad you could understand what I wrote as it tooks me ages to try and describe it, looks like you understood what I mean’t really well,

I started this week with a clean slate (45 hour rest)

worked Monday & tuesday

wednesday rest (35ish hour)

work thursday, friday, saturday, sunday, monday

Tuesday rest (looking like 30ish hour)

work wednesday, thursday & friday

then looks like I’ll have 64ish hour rest on hand before next shift

so looks like I’ll be fine then, going home doing the wifes ironing instead of going to prison and having a rest

[tachograph]

ebabes:
thanks tacho I’m glad you could understand what I wrote as it tooks me ages to try and describe it

You’re welcome

ebabes:
then looks like I’ll have 64ish hour rest on hand before next shift

With 64 hours rest you will have paid back any compensation that may be required for the reduced weekly rest on the Wednesday, so assuming that you have no compensation to pay from previous weeks you will have a clean slate again

[ebabes]

ok not sure about this when it comes to weekly rest, things have now changed job wise… again - how many times can one person be kicked in the nuts■■? anyways this is the story please tell me if it’s legal or not?

Monday to Thursday start 7am Finish 18:00 very lastest
Friday - 8am - 14:00 lastest

Thats what I am working now, they’re trying to put a saturday run on which would be

Saturday 7am - 8pm (only a guess at the moment, just asuming a full shift and to keep the times easy to work out)

So my weekly rest is going to be reduced to 36 hours, so the 9 hours thats missing, can I make that up though the week with having longer daily rests?

Problem being they want me to work every saturday so I won’t be able to play catch up by having a longer weekly rest the week after, don’t mind doing it as long as it’s legal, I need the money and my times will be less than 60 hours and my driving times won’t touch the 90 hours as most of the work I do is classed as other duties.

I know this question has probably been asked 1,000,000’s by now, it’ just makes me worry when someone in an office with no driving time experiance or knowlegde has an idea that works in his world

[ebabes]

actually just ignore the above I have just had a read of the older notes and it is naughty to my understanding, as every weekly rest will be less than 45 hours. So to my understanding I can only work if do a shift with another driver so lets say I work only 2 alternative saturdays a month so I’ll have my full 45 hours one week and then the one after a reduced rest

[coffeeholic]

ebabes:
actually just ignore the above I have just had a read of the older notes and it is naughty to my understanding, as every weekly rest will be less than 45 hours. So to my understanding I can only work if do a shift with another driver so lets say I work only 2 alternative saturdays a month so I’ll have my full 45 hours one week and then the one after a reduced rest

Yes, based on your times you could do every second Saturday which would mean a reduced rest of 35 hours one week followed by a full rest of 65 hours the following which takes care of the 10 hours compensation for the reduced rest.

The minimum rest requirement is one full and one reduced in any two consecutive weeks and the way they want you to do it does not meet this requirement.