A mate has phoned me to ask if the following can be done.
His recent work has been: 3 days rest, worked 3 days, 26 hours off, worked 3 days. The next bit is what I don’t think can’t be done: 1 day off, 1 day of work, 1 day off, 3 days work, 1 day rest, 3 days work and should be 3 days off.
I’m thinking it can’t be done because he won’t have 45 hours continuous rest within 144 hours of finishing his previous reduced rest. Advice please guys.
mucker85:
A mate has phoned me to ask if the following can be done.
His recent work has been: 3 days rest, worked 3 days, 26 hours off, worked 3 days. The next bit is what I don’t think can’t be done: 1 day off, 1 day of work, 1 day off, 3 days work, 1 day rest, 3 days work and should be 3 days off.I’m thinking it can’t be done because he won’t have 45 hours continuous rest within 144 hours of finishing his previous reduced rest. Advice please guys.
Hi mucker85,
Whilst awaiting the arrival of the guys who can answer this better than I can… it might be of help if you could say which day of the week is the starting point for the “3 days rest” at the start of the scenario.
The first day of the 3 rest days was Friday.
mucker85:
A mate has phoned me to ask if the following can be done.
His recent work has been: 3 days rest, worked 3 days, 26 hours off, worked 3 days. The next bit is what I don’t think can’t be done: 1 day off, 1 day of work, 1 day off, 3 days work, 1 day rest, 3 days work and should be 3 days off.The first day of the 3 rest days was Friday.
I’m thinking it can’t be done because he won’t have 45 hours continuous rest within 144 hours of finishing his previous reduced rest. Advice please guys.
would need to be more specific as the 26 hours off seems it could be a mix of day and night shifts 
Really need to know about the first 3 days off … how many hours off - which of those hours were used for the week ending and which used for the week starting
Without that info its going to be virtually impossible to give a definitive answer
A 45 rest does not need to be taken every 144 hours but a weekly rest of at least 24 hours off does
What you have posted never seems to come anywhere near 144 hours between any 2 periods of 24 hours off but it could break the 45 off rule as a 45 off needs to be taken at least every other week hence my question about the first 3 days off
Based purely on the information given it would appear he cannot do thus as he will have two consecutive weeks without at least one full weekly rest period of at least 45 hours.
If the last 1 day off you mention befor the final 3 days of work is instead made 45 hours off then he will be legal.
That’s based purely on the information given and working on the assumption the first day of the 3 days of work after the 3 days off, which started on the Friday, was a Monday. If that is wrong then the answer could be different, plus other factors such as what he did in the rest of the week before those 3 days off could also alter it.
The first day of the 3 rest days was Friday … 3 days rest, worked 3 days, 26 hours off, worked 3 days. 1 day off, 1 day of work, 1 day off, 3 days work, 1 day rest, 3 days work and should be 3 days off
I AM GOING TO MAKE A BIG ASSUMPTION that part of the first 3 days off can be used as regular weekly rest for the first fixed week
fri/sat/sun = off - using last 45 hours of that period as regular weekly rest for the fixed week starting on mon
mon/tue/wed = work
26 hours off = reduced weekly rest (1)
thu/fri/sat = work
sun = off = reduced weekly rest (2)
mon = work
tue = off = reduced weekly rest (3)
wed/thu/fri = work
sat = off = reduced weekly rest (4)
sun/mon/tue = work
wed/thu/ fri = off = regular weekly rest
IF MY ASSUMPTION at the start is correct then a regular weekly rest has been taken in fixed weeks 1 and 3 with a choice of reduced weekly rests (2), (3) or (4) for fixed week 2
I managed to get some more information. He got confused with the question I asked him. I’ve been to see him and look at his time sheets.
The first complete rest day of the 3 in a row was THURSDAY.
The first 3 days off was from Wednesday night at about 2200 until 1400 on Sunday 88 hours. The next rest was from Tuesday at 2330 to 0400 Thursday 28.5 hours. Rest from 1300 Saturday to 0800 Monday 43 hours. The next rest period would be another reduced from 1700 Monday to 0400 Wednesday 35 hours.
It’s a nightmare trying to work it out. The spanner in the works is this 1 day of work.
I still cannot work out a definitive from the extra info
Be easier for me to have it laid out shift by shift
Might need to look back at the previous 2 weeks before that lot listed to come to a decision on weekly rest
Is there a pattern to the shifts or is it random?
mucker85:
I managed to get some more information. He got confused with the question I asked him. I’ve been to see him and look at his time sheets.
The first complete rest day of the 3 in a row was THURSDAY.The first 3 days off was from Wednesday night at about 2200 until 1400 on Sunday 88 hours. The next rest was from Tuesday at 2330 to 0400 Thursday 28.5 hours. Rest from 1300 Saturday to 0800 Monday 43 hours. The next rest period would be another reduced from 1700 Monday to 0400 Wednesday 35 hours.
It’s a nightmare trying to work it out. The spanner in the works is this 1 day of work.
He definitely cannot do what he is wanting to do as per the first post as he won’t have the required regular weekly rest period in the two week period. It’s a non starter.
Coffeeholic:
mucker85:
I managed to get some more information. He got confused with the question I asked him. I’ve been to see him and look at his time sheets.
The first complete rest day of the 3 in a row was THURSDAY.The first 3 days off was from Wednesday night at about 2200 until 1400 on Sunday 88 hours. The next rest was from Tuesday at 2330 to 0400 Thursday 28.5 hours. Rest from 1300 Saturday to 0800 Monday 43 hours. The next rest period would be another reduced from 1700 Monday to 0400 Wednesday 35 hours.
It’s a nightmare trying to work it out. The spanner in the works is this 1 day of work.
He definitely cannot do what he is wanting to do as per the first post as he won’t have the required regular weekly rest period in the two week period. It’s a non starter.
What if the last 45 hours of the 3 days off which the OP started with can be used for the first week
ROG:
Coffeeholic:
mucker85:
I managed to get some more information. He got confused with the question I asked him. I’ve been to see him and look at his time sheets.
The first complete rest day of the 3 in a row was THURSDAY.The first 3 days off was from Wednesday night at about 2200 until 1400 on Sunday 88 hours. The next rest was from Tuesday at 2330 to 0400 Thursday 28.5 hours. Rest from 1300 Saturday to 0800 Monday 43 hours. The next rest period would be another reduced from 1700 Monday to 0400 Wednesday 35 hours.
It’s a nightmare trying to work it out. The spanner in the works is this 1 day of work.
He definitely cannot do what he is wanting to do as per the first post as he won’t have the required regular weekly rest period in the two week period. It’s a non starter.
What if the last 45 hours of the 3 days off which the OP started with can be used for the first week
Well as that rest period started on a Wednesday and ended on a Sunday it was all contained in one week so all of it will count for that week and you can’t count part of it for one week and part for another as you would be able to do with a 69+ hour weekly rest that begins in one week and ends in another.
From the rest of the information he isn’t getting a regular rest in two consecutive weeks.
I think the OP stated that the first of the 3 days off was on a Friday which is why I started my example on a Friday
See 3rd post
ROG:
I think the OP stated that the first of the 3 days off was on a Friday which is why I started my example on a FridaySee 3rd post
And he has since clarified that it in fact started at approximately 22:00 Wednesday and finished at 14:00 Sunday.
Coffeeholic:
ROG:
I think the OP stated that the first of the 3 days off was on a Friday which is why I started my example on a FridaySee 3rd post
And he has since clarified that it in fact started at approximately 22:00 Wednesday and finished at 14:00 Sunday.
ah - THANKS
That changes everything