So it needs to be vice versa?? Week 3 to compensate week 1 then?
scottishcruiser:
So it needs to be vice versa?? Week 3 to compensate week 1 then?
scottishcruiser:
2 weekends ago I had 76 hours
No compensation required
scottishcruiser:
last weekend I had 40 hours
5 hours compensation required from this point
This weekend you will need to have 45 hours - if you have 50 then that will make up the 5 owing but they can wait for a 14 hour daily rest (reduced 9 +5) or for the next weekly rest after this weekend which can be a reduced one of 29 hours (24+5)
i work low hrs to some of you guys but do have reduced weekly rest to 43.5 hrs giving me just 1.5hrs to pay back.my question is can i just add those 1.5hrs on to my first daily rest period on monday?
example of my hours
mon-fri work 07:30-16:00
63hr weekly rest
mon-fri work 07:30-16:00
sat 07:30-12:00pm
43.5 hr weekly rest
mon-fri 07:30-16:00
Trickie:
i work low hrs to some of you guys but do have reduced weekly rest to 43.5 hrs giving me just 1.5hrs to pay back.my question is can i just add those 1.5hrs on to my first daily rest period on monday?
Yes, you can add them to any rest period of at least 9 hours. So, if you have at least 10.5 hours rest after your shift on Monday, and it looks like you will have 15.5 hours, you are clear.
Coffeeholic:
Trickie:
i work low hrs to some of you guys but do have reduced weekly rest to 43.5 hrs giving me just 1.5hrs to pay back.my question is can i just add those 1.5hrs on to my first daily rest period on monday?Yes,
you can add them to any rest period of at least 9 hours
. So, if you have at least 10.5 hours rest after your shift on Monday, and it looks like you will have 15.5 hours, you are clear.
I’m confused here now. I called the traffic examiners office a while ago, I explained my weekly rest periods only get slightly reduced & asked if I could reduce two weekly rest periods on the trot & he told me I could as long as I had a weekly rest pattern of 45hrs,reduced,reduced,45hrs,45hrs. He said the weekly rest periods could be taken in the pattern shown but it’d be easier to manage if I took them 45,reduced.45. reduced & so on.
On thursday of this week, I called again & found the number I had took me to the legal office this time instead of the traffic examiner. I asked if he could advise on rest periods, he said yes so I gave the man the example of my last weekly rest, it had been reduced by 2hours & 30 mins. Yet on tuesday into wednesday I taken a 14 hour daily rest & asked if I’d wiped the weekly rest slate clean by repaying the 2hr 30 min reduction back added to the daily rest & he said NO. Weekly rest reductions had to be compensated by being added to a weekly rest period & not a daily rest period.
Which is correct please?
BB
Basilbrush:
I’m confused here now. I called the traffic examiners office a while ago, I explained my weekly rest periods only get slightly reduced & asked if I could reduce two weekly rest periods on the trot & he told me I could as long as I had a weekly rest pattern of 45hrs,reduced,reduced,45hrs,45hrs. He said the weekly rest periods could be taken in the pattern shown but it’d be easier to manage if I took them 45,reduced.45. reduced & so on.
You can have two consecutive reduced weekly rest periods if they’re taken in the same week but you must have a full 45 hour weekly rest in every second week, so if you only have one weekly rest period in each week the pattern would have to be 45 - reduced - 45 - reduced ec’t, this of course takes no account of repaying the compensation.
So if the traffic examiner was saying that you could have a 45 in week 1 then a reduced weekly rest in weeks 2 and 3 then he’s wrong and has no right to be a traffic examiner 
Article 8.6 - (EC) 561/2006:
In any two consecutive weeks a driver shall take at least:
– two regular weekly rest periods, or
– one regular weekly rest period and one reduced weekly
rest period of at least 24 hours. However, the reduction
shall be compensated by an equivalent period of rest
taken en bloc before the end of the third week following
the week in question.
Basilbrush:
On thursday of this week, I called again & found the number I had took me to the legal office this time instead of the traffic examiner. I asked if he could advise on rest periods, he said yes so I gave the man the example of my last weekly rest, it had been reduced by 2hours & 30 mins. Yet on tuesday into wednesday I taken a 14 hour daily rest & asked if I’d wiped the weekly rest slate clean by repaying the 2hr 30 min reduction back added to the daily rest & he said NO. Weekly rest reductions had to be compensated by being added to a weekly rest period & not a daily rest period.Which is correct please?
Neither
This person was also wrong and doesn’t know what he’s talking about 
Compensation for a reduced weekly rest period can be added onto any rest period of at least 9 hours which is in fact a daily rest period.
Assuming that you mean that you took a 14 hour daily rest period after the reduced weekly rest period of 42 hours 30 minutes then you did in fact wipe the slate clean 
Article 8.7 - (EC) 561/2006:
Any rest taken as compensation for a reduced weekly rest
period shall be attached to another rest period of at least nine
hours.
Thank you for replying to my question.
BB
Different situations here so we’ll do them one by one.
Basilbrush:
I’m confused here now. I called the traffic examiners office a while ago, I explained my weekly rest periods only get slightly reduced & asked if I could reduce two weekly rest periods on the trot & he told me I could as long as I had a weekly rest pattern of 45hrs,reduced,reduced,45hrs,45hrs. He said the weekly rest periods could be taken in the pattern shown but it’d be easier to manage if I took them 45,reduced.45. reduced & so on.
This one sort of knew what he was talking about although if each of the rests in this pattern “a weekly rest pattern of 45hrs,reduced,reduced,45hrs,45hrs” were in separate weeks then it would not be legal.
There is nothing in the regulations preventing back to back reduced weekly rest periods, what you must have however is in any two week periods at least one reduced and one regular. He is correct in saying regular, reduced, regular, reduced and so on is easier to manage. You could however do this.
Week 1 Saturday and Sunday - Regular rest.
Week 2
Monday - Work
Tuesday - Work
Wednesday - Work
Thursday - Reduced rest
Friday - Work
Saturday - Work
Sunday - Work
Week 3
Monday - Work
Tuesday - Work
Wednesday - Work
Thursday - Reduced rest
Friday - Work
Saturday - Work
Sunday - Begin Regular rest
You can see you have taken back to back reduced rest periods but in the two week period Week 1 and 2 you have at least one regular and one reduced and in the two week period Week 2 and 3 you have the same. This scenario is legal and the reduced rest on Thursday of Week 3 does not need any compensation as you also have another rest period in that week and it’s only purpose is to prevent you working more than 6 days without a weekly rest… The regulations only require one rest per week so any taken over and above that do not require compensation as you have already satisfied the minimum requirements.
So the first guy was half right, if you have understood what he said and it is as you have posted.
Basilbrush:
On thursday of this week, I called again & found the number I had took me to the legal office this time instead of the traffic examiner. I asked if he could advise on rest periods, he said yes so I gave the man the example of my last weekly rest, it had been reduced by 2hours & 30 mins. Yet on tuesday into wednesday I taken a 14 hour daily rest & asked if I’d wiped the weekly rest slate clean by repaying the 2hr 30 min reduction back added to the daily rest & he said NO. Weekly rest reductions had to be compensated by being added to a weekly rest period & not a daily rest period.Which is correct please?
BB
Now onto VOSA bloke number two. He is completely wrong, you can add compensation to any rest period of at least 9 hours. Conformation HERE, PAGE 18 of the VOSA guide book where it says.
The compensating rest must be attached to a period of rest of at least 9 hours — in effect either a weekly or a daily rest period.
As you took a daily rest of 14 hours that means a regular daily rest of at least 11 hours, 11.5 in this case, plus the 2.5 hours owed in compensation for the previous reduced rest.
Incidentally, making this compensation does not actually wipe the slate clean on weekly rest periods it only cleans up any compensation owing. If last week you only had a reduced rest you will still require a regular this week, the fact you have made the required compensation doesn’t alter that fact.
So, if you fully understood the replies they gave you and they were as reported it looks like in two conversations with VOSA you may have only got 25% correct information and at best 50%, if the first guy didn’t mean each of the rest periods he described were in separate weeks. The second guy just talked ■■■■■■■■.
Distracted by poker again while typing up my reply so Tachograph beat me to it. 