whelmic:
I always plan for a maximum 13 hour day and 11 hours off, then save the 15s/9s for delays etc. I would personally be in favour of simplyfing the rules to have a maximum 14 hour day / 10 hour rest every night.
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TheUncaringCowboy:
Would be much happier with being able to do 15 every day or 9 off every night.
Me too when I was young and cabhappy, the thought of a week of 15’s would have me shredding my entitlement and all other related driving cards in an instant ! I draw the line at working more than13 hours a day, much prefer 11 at work and 13 hours off 
When I was working the only time I had a reduced nine was on a Friday night out and only had to run in on Saturday and finish, even that was never a certainty if there was no home match on.
Monday i done a 15 hour shift (0700 - 2200)
Tuesday card was back in at 0700 finished at 1600 (not too bad)
I was done in
Anyway i dont understand how ive only used 1 reduced daily rest? Shouldnt it be 2 in theory?
Rest should start at the end of the shift
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mark1284:
Monday i done a 15 hour shift (0700 - 2200)
Tuesday card was back in at 0700 finished at 1600 (not too bad)
I was done inAnyway i dont understand how ive only used 1 reduced daily rest? Shouldnt it be 2 in theory?
Why 2A 15 hour shift isn’t in itself a reduced daily rest period, the fact that it only leaves 9 hours rest in the period of 24 hours from the start of the shift makes it a reduced daily rest period.
Rest should start at the end of the shift
Unless you’re having a split daily rest period it does.
I get you now… 24 hours from the start of the shift. 0700 - 2200 monday leaves 9 hours rest untill 0700 tuesday?
Ok say monday 0700-1900 = 12hrs rest untill 0700 tuesday??
Now say i start work 0400 tuesday and finish 1600 = 12 hours rest untill 0400 wednesday??
So would that mean monday was a reduced daily rest?
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mark1284:
I get you now… 24 hours from the start of the shift. 0700 - 2200 monday leaves 9 hours rest untill 0700 tuesday?
YESOk say monday 0700-1900 = 12hrs rest untill 0700 tuesday??
YESNow say i start work 0400 tuesday and finish 1600 = 12 hours rest untill 0400 wednesday??
YESSo would that mean monday was a reduced daily rest?
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WELL SORTED 
So say i work 0700-2200 mon tue wed
Theres 3 reduced daily rests?
So on thurs could i start at 0700 still? (Im guessing yes) but would need to be finished before 2000■■
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mark1284:
So say i work 0700-2200 mon tue wedTheres 3 reduced daily rests?
So on thurs could i start at 0700 still? (Im guessing yes) but would need to be finished before 2000■■
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CORRECT
No that would make thursday reduced
Ahhhhrrgg im going to bed lol
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Ohhh i was right… im still going to bed lol
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mark1284:
I get you now… 24 hours from the start of the shift. 0700 - 2200 monday leaves 9 hours rest untill 0700 tuesday?Ok say monday 0700-1900 = 12hrs rest untill 0700 tuesday??
Now say i start work 0400 tuesday and finish 1600 = 12 hours rest untill 0400 wednesday??
So would that mean monday was a reduced daily rest?
Yes, excluding split daily rest periods, you could say a daily rest period is
(Whichever comes first)
edit: OK there was 5 posts while I was typing this short reply 
mark1284:
No that would make thursday reducedAhhhhrrgg im going to bed lol
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If thu was 0700 to 2000 them that is a 13 shift leaving a regular 11 daily rest until 0700 fri
Thank you all for your patience. I think its sunk in [emoji23][emoji2]
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ROG:
mark1284:
No that would make thursday reducedAhhhhrrgg im going to bed lol
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If thu was 0700 to 2000 them that is a 13 shift leaving a regular 11 daily rest until 0700 fri
Ahh yes… so basically i would have to start 0700 or later on fri? So say i started 0600 fri that would make thurs the 4th reduced daily rest? Which would be illegal
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mark1284:
ROG:
mark1284:
No that would make thursday reducedAhhhhrrgg im going to bed lol
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If thu was 0700 to 2000 them that is a 13 shift leaving a regular 11 daily rest until 0700 fri
Ahh yes… so basically i would have to start 0700 or later on fri? So say i started 0600 fri that would make thurs the 4th reduced daily rest? Which would be illegal
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Correct
If a shift is over 13 hours OR the time between shifts is less than 11 hours then it is a reduced daily rest (unless we go into split daily rests)
It can be both but only counts as 1 reduced - such as…
Start 0600 - finish 2000 (14 shift) - take 9 off (less than 11) - start 0500
TheUncaringCowboy:
Would be much happier with being able to do 15 every day or 9 off every night.
Yeh really? 
Are the ridiculous amount of hours we are allowed (and in many cases expected) to work now already, not enough for you.
I would say max 12 hour shift with 12off
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mark1284:
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As far as I remember it used to be 12 and a half spreadover, that’s a long enough working day for anybody imo.
If we were paid a realistic pay structure alongside it, as we all once were, instead of same rate right through dog ■■■■, the job would be brought into 21st century conditions at last
