Question on lgv entitlements

UK PROFESSIONAL DRIVERS FORUMS THE UK PROFESSIONAL DRIVERS FORUM (INTERACTIVE)
1

A quick question someone needs an answer…and one I don’t know the answer to.
Pasted below;
I work for a large Electicity company, and we have had a few new vehicles come in to replace the old, now some of the new ones are larger vehicles, eg 7.5 tonne being replaced by a 9 tonne.
Now some of us older guys could drive the 7.5t on grandfather rights, but I have said we can’t drive the 9 tonne new vehicle as this would be classed as HGV, the vehicle in question is a £140.000 Unimog MEWP.

Now a few people including some of our HGV drivers have said that we (us older guys without HGV) can drive it because its classed as plant, to me this is bollox.
Maybe, I said it becomes plant on site, but driving on a public road I would have thought a HGV licence would apply, but no they are saying its NOT a goods vehicle.

We seem to be a bit divided on this, and even the transport manager has gone quiet on the subject, the guv web sites are a bit vague also.

Anyone else care to take a stab at this?

2

IMHO, 9 tonne vehicle = HGV

I’m happy to be proved wrong though

3

I think it will come down to how it is taxed. As agricultural then you may be okay, taxed as LGV then I doubt it.

I stand to be corrected though, as the man in the orthopaedic shoes said.

4

Look595:
A quick question someone needs an answer…and one I don’t know the answer to.
Pasted below;
I work for a large Electicity company, and we have had a few new vehicles come in to replace the old, now some of the new ones are larger vehicles, eg 7.5 tonne being replaced by a 9 tonne.
Now some of us older guys could drive the 7.5t on grandfather rights, but I have said we can’t drive the 9 tonne new vehicle as this would be classed as HGV, the vehicle in question is a £140.000 Unimog MEWP.

Now a few people including some of our HGV drivers have said that we (us older guys without HGV) can drive it because its classed as plant, to me this is bollox.
Maybe, I said it becomes plant on site, but driving on a public road I would have thought a HGV licence would apply, but no they are saying its NOT a goods vehicle.

We seem to be a bit divided on this, and even the transport manager has gone quiet on the subject, the guv web sites are a bit vague also.

Anyone else care to take a stab at this?

Hello there,if it runs on red diesil u can drive on your car licence,its classed as plant,where I work our gritters are classed as plant running red derv,but our insurance requires hgv

5

Coffeeholic:
I think it will come down to how it is taxed. As agricultural then you may be okay, taxed as LGV then I doubt it.

I stand to be corrected though, as the man in the orthopaedic shoes said.

You talking about Rog in his Tartan carpet slippers :wink:

6

I saw that nick :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

I would think it unlikely that they would be agricultural so LGV C seems more probable

7

ROG:
I saw that nick :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

I would think it unlikely that they would be agricultural so LGV C seems more probable

:grimacing:
gotta have some light entertainment in the afternoon after all :wink:

8

eddster1979:

Look595:
A quick question someone needs an answer…and one I don’t know the answer to.
Pasted below;
I work for a large Electicity company, and we have had a few new vehicles come in to replace the old, now some of the new ones are larger vehicles, eg 7.5 tonne being replaced by a 9 tonne.
Now some of us older guys could drive the 7.5t on grandfather rights, but I have said we can’t drive the 9 tonne new vehicle as this would be classed as HGV, the vehicle in question is a £140.000 Unimog MEWP.

Now a few people including some of our HGV drivers have said that we (us older guys without HGV) can drive it because its classed as plant, to me this is bollox.
Maybe, I said it becomes plant on site, but driving on a public road I would have thought a HGV licence would apply, but no they are saying its NOT a goods vehicle.

We seem to be a bit divided on this, and even the transport manager has gone quiet on the subject, the guv web sites are a bit vague also.

Anyone else care to take a stab at this?

Hello there,if it runs on red diesil u can drive on your car licence,its classed as plant,where I work our gritters are classed as plant running red derv,but our insurance requires hgv

Airport trucks run on Red but recruit HGV drivers so… :stuck_out_tongue:

9

The cheapest why so use all can drive it would be to get it reclassified as a 7.5T.
My old work had that done to a 12T truck.

10

Coffeeholic:
I think it will come down to how it is taxed. As agricultural then you may be okay, taxed as LGV then I doubt it.

I stand to be corrected though, as the man in the orthopaedic shoes said.

Agreed - suspect it will be taxed as a “Special Vehicle” and you will not need a LGV to drive it.

11

What’s the vehicle used for?

ie if it just has a crane or lift, then it could be plant…if it carries a payload then it’s probably not plant.

12

GasGas:
What’s the vehicle used for?

ie if it just has a crane or lift, then it could be plant…if it carries a payload then it’s probably not plant.

I think it’s probably a cherry picker, could be taxed as an agricultural tractor and if so it might be okay on a regular licence.

13

what do Merc say
aint it a similar thing with Fasttracs

14

If in doubt contact the DVSA and the DVLA :grimacing:

15

hitch:
what do Merc say

They say it depends on how it’s taxed.

16

Tax classes.

gov.uk/government/uploads/s … 140714.pdf