Put taco on break by mistake

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Hi, hoping someone can advise, so I put my taco on break by accident while I was tipping at a store, can my employer do me for it even though it was a genuine error? My company are cracking down on ppl deliberately tipping on break but I am not one of those people who do that, but obviously my employer will look at it and see I tipped on my 45min break even though the tip took only 10 to 15mins, I never ever tip on break but I’m on a final written warning and worry they will find any reason to get rid of me. As its a genuine error on my part do you think they will accept that?
Thanks

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Waldini1985:
Hi, hoping someone can advise, so I put my taco on break by accident while I was tipping at a store, can my employer do me for it even though it was a genuine error? My company are cracking down on ppl deliberately tipping on break but I am not one of those people who do that, but obviously my employer will look at it and see I tipped on my 45min break even though the tip took only 10 to 15mins, I never ever tip on break but I’m on a final written warning and worry they will find any reason to get rid of me. As its a genuine error on my part do you think they will accept that?
Thanks

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If it’s a one off genuine mistake then it would be hard for them to prove to you did it deliberately.

The question i’d be asking is how did you accidentally put it on break?

You have to physically put it on break unless the tacho defaults to break. In which case you could argue you forgot it to change the mode and as a one off again would be hard to prove.

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Waldini1985:
Hi, hoping someone can advise, so I put my taco on break by accident while I was tipping at a store, can my employer do me for it even though it was a genuine error? My company are cracking down on ppl deliberately tipping on break but I am not one of those people who do that, but obviously my employer will look at it and see I tipped on my 45min break even though the tip took only 10 to 15mins, I never ever tip on break but I’m on a final written warning and worry they will find any reason to get rid of me. As its a genuine error on my part do you think they will accept that?
Thanks

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I’m assuming you are new to the job so I get it why you are even mildly bothered about all this type of trivial cack.

It makes me laugh how these up their own arses type firms treat their drivers like school kids to the point where they are sh…ing themselves if they make the slightest error or misdemeanour.
Thing is they only do it because drivers take them seriously, allow them to do so, and comply which makes the ■■■■ s even worse.

What I would do if you are bothered is ring the prick up in the office and say in a matter of fact kind of way, and not an apologetic one. ‘Look I’ve put my tacho on wrong mode, I have done a printout to explain my genuine mistake, and I have not used the time as an.alternative to a break, because I have took my break later on accordinglly’’ so essentially I have gained nothing by my error.
As Simon says defaulting to break is a pain in the ■■■■ (paraphrase :smiley: ) I am currently experiencing it with my new truck,.and keep forgetting to change mode. :unamused: :smiling_imp:

I’m assuming your firm is non Union but if not, consult them.
If you are on good t.s and c.s, good money, stay with them, if not tell em to go and ■■■■ themselves and get a job with a firm that treats you like a grown up,.the job does NOT have to be like that.
If THAT is the worse thing you are doing wrong,.you ain’t doing so bad. :bulb: ,.don’t let these ■■■■ s get to you,.the guy giving you grief aint your teacher or God,.he is a fellow employee on a different pay grade, so ■■■■ him and ■■■■ his power trips. :smiling_imp:
Not having a pop at you btw, so keep coming on asking advice.
Whether you think MY advice is good or not is up to you. :laughing:
It’s just that these types of firms,.and how they have spoiled the job and turned it to sh…, boil all my bodily fluids at once. :smiling_imp: :smiley:
Good luck anyhoo . :smiley:

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The OP says they are already on final written warning, if that’s for something similar, then that should have been a fairly strain prompt as to what the company thinks of this type of error.
If it’s not a related matter, then it should be less of an issue. Use this as a real wake up call.

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Driving jobs are 10 a penny. If you are not highly enough thought of that they wouldn’t ignore things like this then go and find a job at a firm that appreciates good drivers. This is why firms like the one you are at are staffed by the dregs

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Acorn:
The OP says they are already on final written warning, if that’s for something similar, then that should have been a fairly strain prompt as to what the company thinks of this type of error.
If it’s not a related matter, then it should be less of an issue. Use this as a real wake up call.

So they are putting their drivers on disciplinaries for as you describe as quote; an ‘error’, rather than blatant and deliberate breaking the law by working during breaks .
The guy has explained it was an oversight ffs.

An explanation verbally and/or on his printout should be sufficient for them to cancel it out.

I stand by what I said before completely,…treated like schoolkids.

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Acorn:
. Use this as a real wake up call.

To find a better job where you are not worrying about final warnings.

What was the FW for?

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stu675:

Acorn:
. Use this as a real wake up call.

To find a better job where you are not worrying about final warnings.

What was the FW for?

The final warning was for me bringing back a storr (I do store deliveries x4 a night) so I was told last store had a restriction of 11pm and my trailer was late, I clearly told them I wouldn’t be getting to the last store for 11pm and the guy in the office said OK no problem, when I came back to the yard I was bollocked for bringing it back and they said I never made anyone aware. So yesh the final warning is nothing taco related but like I said I’m worried they will use it as leverage to get rid of me, especially as I’m being made redundant next year after 10 years at the company.

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Acorn:
The OP says they are already on final written warning, if that’s for something similar, then that should have been a fairly strain prompt as to what the company thinks of this type of error.
If it’s not a related matter, then it should be less of an issue. Use this as a real wake up call.

It’s not related, and like I said I never tip on break and they can go back through every shift to see that I don’t. I’m with a union so if anything comes of it I’ll speak to them as it was a genuine honest error.

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Waldini1985:
It’s not related, and like I said I never tip on break and they can go back through every shift to see that I don’t. I’m with a union so if anything comes of it I’ll speak to them as it was a genuine honest error.

They sound a complete shower of sh mate, they are blowing trivialities out of all proportion, it’s hardly a major crime.

You’ve answered your own question, see the Union, and if they are worth their salt they will sort it for you.

And/or let them sack you for making a genuine mistake, and take the ■■■■ ers to a tribunal and make a few quid.

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Waldini1985:

stu675:

Acorn:
. Use this as a real wake up call.

To find a better job where you are not worrying about final warnings.

What was the FW for?

The final warning was for me bringing back a storr (I do store deliveries x4 a night) so I was told last store had a restriction of 11pm and my trailer was late, I clearly told them I wouldn’t be getting to the last store for 11pm and the guy in the office said OK no problem, when I came back to the yard I was bollocked for bringing it back and they said I never made anyone aware. So yesh the final warning is nothing taco related but like I said I’m worried they will use it as leverage to get rid of me, especially as I’m being made redundant next year after 10 years at the company.

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10 yrs at the same company, I’m sure you know the score much better than me.
One thing, is your final warning in writing? Or just a threat to beat you with.
Probably a good idea to put communication like bringing a delivery back in writing and insisting on a written reply (text/WhatsApp whatever) is the guy you spoke to really denying all knowledge?
With 10 yrs of service, it would be really hard for your employer to get rid of you without paying your redundancy in full, just a quick Google brought the following, I hope it puts your mind at ease?
neathousepartners.com/final-wri … 20employee.

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Waldini1985:
especially as I’m being made redundant next year after 10 years at the company.

That ^^^ puts a whole new completion on it mate. Incidentally I’m in the same boat so I’m currently tempering my sharp tongue and violent tendencies because I’m not walking away from the money.

As that’s the case my serious suggestion is to ■■■■ corporate ■■■■, apologise, point out it was a genuine error and eventually take their money and walk away with your head held high.

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the maoster:

Waldini1985:
especially as I’m being made redundant next year after 10 years at the company.

That ^^^ puts a whole new completion on it mate. Incidentally I’m in the same boat so I’m currently tempering my sharp tongue and violent tendencies because I’m not walking away from the money.

As that’s the case my serious suggestion is to ■■■■ corporate ■■■■, apologise, point out it was a genuine error and eventually take their money and walk away with your head held high.

Oh Christ yeah !
I actually missed that bit :blush: …I was too busy telling the guy to stick it to em. :smiley:
So…what he says ^^^^ and disregard (a lot of) what I said.
Too much to lose by being (too) arsey,.■■■■ it up for now, but make sure you get revenge AFTER the event on that prick in the office. :bulb: :smiley:

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robroy:
and disregard (a lot of) what I said.

Most of us always have and always will (apart from Sploom, Carryfast, Winseer and oh so many others :laughing: )

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Beau Nydel:

robroy:
and disregard (a lot of) what I said.

Most of us always have and always will (apart from Sploom, Carryfast, Winseer and oh so many others :laughing: )

Oh God, dont be putting me in the same category as the 3 stooges ffs. :open_mouth:
I actually thought I was popular on here. :laughing: :laughing:

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Waldini1985:
Hi, hoping someone can advise, so I put my taco on break by accident while I was tipping at a store, can my employer do me for it even though it was a genuine error? My company are cracking down on ppl deliberately tipping on break but I am not one of those people who do that, but obviously my employer will look at it and see I tipped on my 45min break even though the tip took only 10 to 15mins, I never ever tip on break but I’m on a final written warning and worry they will find any reason to get rid of me. As its a genuine error on my part do you think they will accept that?
Thanks

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So, you tipped yourself I assume? The tacho was on break, what did you do when you got back back in the wagon after the 10 minute tip, did you think, ‘‘I’m gonna have my break now’’? 10 minute tip, 45 minute break. At what point did you realise your tacho was on break? Did you just by coincidence sit there for half an hour with the tacho on break after the tip without realising? Something doesn’t add up.

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If I couldn’t trust traffic to have a backbone and admit to what they have told me, I would record all conversations, have my own dashcam and put the phone on load speaker and save…

Also if the final warning isn’t in writing then it won’t stand up at a tribunal, there are also procedures to follow before issuing a final warning.

If its a verbal or a threat, just say constructive Dismissal. Then see the ■■■■ squirm!!