stu675:
Has anyone asked…Why did you stop for 2 minutes?
It’s a good question. Simply to look at the clearance I had before reversing. My gaffer has appealed though so I’m sure don duff will see sense and quash it.
yourhavingalarf:
ferrymaster:
The only other thing I’ve spotted here, is that Proserve haven’t got the registered keeper deets of my truck from the DVLA. I’m sure they would need to be a member of the BPA or IPC to do that, which they are not! So they have simply relied on the company decals on my unit to make an assumption (albeit, the right one).You are correct…
They are not members of the relevant associations.
‘As some of you may know, the British Parking Association have set a limit of £100 on private parking tickets. Proserve get around this by not being members of the BPA (or any Accredited Trade Association), so have not been bound by its rules. The only real reason parking companies are members of ATAs is to get access to the DVLA’s database of keepers (i.e. so they know who to chase for money). Proserve managed to get around the DVLA’s ATA membership requirement by claiming they only deal with cases of trespass, and not parking enforcement services.’
parkingcowboys.co.uk/2014-02-a-dark-day/
2014 the article was written.
That’s an interesting read. Looks like they operate in short bursts and target a small number of companies at a time (presumably to keep it low key). But time this got some publicity. Drivers are the backbone of the country and as another poster mentioned, scams like this left to go unchallenged will only damage the industry further.
find-and-update.company-informa … y/08066641
Proserve is a dormant company on CH run by Stephen J Duff and Karen D Duff. I expect he will dye his hair and she will of had her lips plumped. I can imagine Matt Alright knocking on their Ipswich mansion front door one afternoon and asking why they operate a ‘mafia-style protection racket’. Not my words Duff, the words of Daniel Poulter MP. theyworkforyou.com/debates/ … -11a.254.1
ferrymaster:
My gaffer has appealed though so I’m sure don duff will see sense and quash it.
Of course they wont uphold any appeal. They don’t get paid if they do that.
Did the OP not explain that he only stopped to read the sign?
robroy:
msgyorkie:
stu675:
yourhavingalarf:
', that’s where your solicitor .… charges you more than £180
Not mine…mine is free with the union
Which union?
When I got a.parking ticket,.with severe repercussions (that I have discussed on here already) .they didn’t want to know. (URTU)
GMB. https://www.gmb.org.uk/unionline/about
I have used their legal services and they were superb! Worth every penny of the £13 per month I bung them. (Then slow down at work and skank an extra hours pay so the company effectually pays my union subs 
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msgyorkie:
ferrymaster:
Hello all.
Has anyone else delivered onto ransomes industrial estate in Ipswich recently? There is a parking company operating on there giving out fines of £250!!! Just for stopping for like 2 minutes! See notice my boss gave me. I’ve covered up some info of my vehicle and company for personal reasons.
The boss then tells me ive to pay. What a joke!! Has anyone else had one of these cos not sure if its a scam?0If you genuinely only stopped for 2 mins then appeal it with a print of your tacho showing the length of time you stopped and an explanation that you had to stop to check on a tyre that looked slightly dodgy in the mirror.
No court in the world would allow a fine to stand because you stopped for a safety concern!
That’s the problem…“no Court”. That’s what these cowboys rely on, they fine you a lot, but not quite enough that you’ll risk going to court and trying the dodgy tyre, squeeling sound, loud bang etc. excuse . If they thought it might end up in court why not just charge £2600? Because then people will consider it worthwhile fighting, and thay will mean the parking company will then need representation in court as well. The whole idea (along with the prompt payment discount!) is just a quick earner for them.
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Gidders:
Did the OP not explain that he only stopped to read the sign?
There are a LOT of them stuck to lampposts, gates and fences, and I mean a LOT. So your unlikely to miss reading any of them even at a crawl
Parking Association have set a limit of £100 on private parking tickets. Proserve get around this by not being members of the BPA (or any Accredited Trade Association), so have not been bound by its rules. The only real reason parking companies are members of ATAs is to get access to the DVLA’s database of keepers (i.e. so they know who to chase for money). Proserve managed to get around the DVLA’s ATA membership requirement by claiming they only deal with cases of trespass, and not parking enforcement services.’
Taken from above post .
So if they get round membership by claiming they only deal with trespass.
Then lf the op had a delivery on said estate surely he wasn’t tresspassing as he had a valid reason to be there.
Surely he has a case ?
peirre:
Gidders:
Did the OP not explain that he only stopped to read the sign?There are a LOT of them stuck to lampposts, gates and fences, and I mean a LOT. So your unlikely to miss reading any of them even at a crawl
Even if the driver is dyslexic or of another mother tongue?
The fact that you boss is saying you have to pay it and they are not willing to pay it says a lot for your boss.
I’d be looking to find another job.
Actually if it was me I would of quit on the spot and told him to get stuffed. But then I can get away with doing such things 
My advise is ignore it completely, toss it in the bin and don’t give it another thought just as some others have already suggested.
Do not under any circumstance engage or correspond with the scammers or argue or share your tachograph, nil…nought…nada…end of story.
As said you were on legitimate business with a Tennant and went about your business in a reasonable manner without doing any harm and no judge would rule against you if it ever saw a courtroom which it won’t, but plenty of experienced advise already given on this process.
As you see there are plenty on here who would cough up the £250 and that’s what these scammers rely on.
Grow a pair and tell the boss to do likewise however in fairness it’s up to him how he wastes or otherwise, his own money.
Worry about real problems and if this is all you got you are in a fantastic position.
Hurryup&wait:
My advise is ignore it completely, toss it in the bin and don’t give it another thought just as some others have already suggested.Do not under any circumstance engage or correspond with the scammers or argue or share your tachograph, nil…nought…nada…end of story.
As said you were on legitimate business with a Tennant and went about your business in a reasonable manner without doing any harm and no judge would rule against you if it ever saw a courtroom which it won’t, but plenty of experienced advise already given on this process.
As you see there are plenty on here who would cough up the £250 and that’s what these scammers rely on.
Grow a pair and tell the boss to do likewise however in fairness it’s up to him how he wastes or otherwise, his own money.
Worry about real problems and if this is all you got you are in a fantastic position.
I disagree with ignoring it. They can take him to court. Now if they take him to court and he ignores that then he will lose and get a default county court judgement. Which is much harder to overturn.
Chances are though, if they do decide to take him to court they wont charge him as much as £250 as the judge will no doubt see that is extremely unreasonable given the amount of time he was ‘parked’ for especially if he had a delivery in the estate.
Wheel Nut:
peirre:
There are a LOT of them stuck to lampposts, gates and fences, and I mean a LOT. So your unlikely to miss reading any of them even at a crawlEven if the driver is dyslexic or of another mother tongue?
Having actually seen the signs myself I can assure you that it is impossible not to understand what they mean irrespective of what the drivers reading abilities are
ferrymaster:
stu675:
Has anyone asked…Why did you stop for 2 minutes?
It’s a good question. Simply to look at the clearance I had before reversing. My gaffer has appealed though so I’m sure don duff will see sense and quash it.
Isn’t that considered still a part of driving? Like being stopped in traffic is still driving.
Gidders:
Did the OP not explain that he only stopped to read the sign?
You’re not allowed to stop to read the sign.
If only there was another sign somewhere before the entrance to the estate where you would have to stop in any case one would have the opportunity to actually read the sign before continuing. Preferably with the permission of the gaffer given that it is incomprehensible nonsense, or better still just refusing to deliver or collect at the location.
Just tell them you was driving slow and you stalled it. Hence had to stop take out of gear and restart engine
Thed never know.if your in an auto box or not
Might be a bit out of date but this gives you a clue as to how Proserve operates.
msgyorkie:
stu675:
yourhavingalarf:
', that’s where your solicitor .… charges you more than £180
Not mine…mine is free with the union
Which union?
When I got a.parking ticket,.with severe repercussions (that I have discussed on here already) .they didn’t want to know. (URTU)
GMB. https://www.gmb.org.uk/unionline/about
I have used their legal services and they were superb! Worth every penny of the £13 per month I bung them. (Then slow down at work and skank an extra hours pay so the company effectually pays my union subs )
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You know what mate?..I might give them a go.
Totally on a downer with URTU, not so much that they did not consider my case part of their re.mit, more for the fact I was totally ignored after repeatedly trying to contact them, then ignoring my e.mail telling them what I thought of them,.and that I was no longer paying them any subs.
Bunch of ■■■■ amateurs.trucknetuk.com/phpBB/viewto … U#p2797492
Couple of years ago I was a passenger in a car that was rear end shunted at 50mph. I got a mild dose of whiplash…nothing serious but was awarded a nice payout. The bonus was I kept every penny of the claim as my union solicitors dealt with it. My mother in Law who was driving used a normal no win no fee solicitor and lost 25% of the claim in solicitors fees.
I urge everybody to join the GMB they are really good.
Discussed at length here. Also gives an insight into Mr Duffs methods & character.