My job involves delivering 1000kg+ pallets of drinks/beers.I have one job which involves pulling those pallets uphill on a cobbled path which is killing me.I asked my boss if we could hire a powered pallet truck to help me move these pallets around on the truck.My warehouse then pipes up and says it illegal to carry them on a lorry■■?
Is that the case? I am driving an 18t curtain side Man TGM.
I cant find anything online saying whether its ok.I have seen loads of lorries carrying them though
First question for the warehouse…how were their powered pallet trucks delivered?
No doubt, they don’t want to give you theirs.
I assume you also have a tail lift?
ncooper:
First question for the warehouse…how were their powered pallet trucks delivered?
No doubt, they don’t want to give you theirs.
I assume you also have a tail lift?
Regards,
Nick.
Yes it has a tail lift
we have only one in the warehouse,I only need it one day a week but i just think he doesnt want me to take it.He reckons that because the truck doesnt have rails and the pallet truck hasnt got a stop button,that makes it illegal.
Well i have been searching the health and safety executive website,Vosa and Department for transport websites and i cant find anything relating to carrying powered pallet trucks,Surely if its illegal to operate it on the back of a truck based on it having no stop button,Then it must also be illegal to operate the same truck inside the warehouse?
I just want something on paper to show him as its his word against mine and the bosses are more inclined to believe him as he is a warehouse manager and i am a lowly driver
I am sure it is only because they don’t want you to take it.
Do they use it to load the truck, by any chance?
Your only chance, I think, is to out argue the warehouse manager
and your point about the stop button is a good one.
If it’s not safe on the truck, it’s not safe in the warehouse, but that doesn’t
get you what you want.
I can’t see you finding much written about a rule that, in my opinion,
doesn’t exist.
Konceppt:
I cant find anything online saying whether its ok.
If something is allowed they don’t introduce regulations to say so but when something isn’t they do. The question is can you find something that says it isn’t allowed.
Konceppt:
I cant find anything online saying whether its ok.
If something is allowed they don’t introduce regulations to say so but when something isn’t they do. The question is can you find something that says it isn’t allowed.
I cant find anything which mentions or states yes or no.I know for a fact that other companies use them as well as a few of our rival companies doing the same job as me.I may ask him tomorrow where he heard it,or even better,ask him to show me the literature which states it.
Konceppt:
I cant find anything online saying whether its ok.
If something is allowed they don’t introduce regulations to say so but when something isn’t they do. The question is can you find something that says it isn’t allowed.
I cant find anything which mentions or states yes or no.
I’ll be impressed if you can get an electric pallet truck along a cobbled path.
The ones I’ve ever use will grind to a halt if a splinter off a pallet gets trapped under the wheels.
I reckon you probably need a Moffet Mounty type machine and if your lot are whinging about a pallet truck, the sum chances of you getting one of them is nill.
Use H&S to your advantage and negotiate a better way of doing the drop or carry on hurting yourself. The choice is yours…
AlexWignall:
I’ll be impressed if you can get an electric pallet truck along a cobbled path.
Use H&S to your advantage and negotiate a better way of doing the drop or carry on hurting yourself. The choice is yours…
W
Indeed and as a rule I wouldn’t say this,but either tell them them you’ve hurt yourself because of this drop,which may make them think again or ask them to split the load down onto manageable pallets.
I’m sure the drinks companies like Coca-Cola and DHL Tradeteam use ppt’s in their wagons but bear in mind a powered pallet truck is not designed to go over cobbles, it is meant for a smooth warehouse floor. What if it runs out of charge when you are doing the delivery and how are you going to get back to the wagon when it weighs 750kgs? And yes it would have been delivered on a lorry.
I agree with ShropsBri, get the pallet broken down to a more manageable size. More trips from the wagon to point of delivery, equals more hours eqauls more pay and less drops done and less personal injuries!
My job involves delivering 1000kg+ pallets of drinks/beers.I have one job which involves pulling those pallets uphill on a cobbled path which is killing me.I asked my boss if we could hire a powered pallet truck to help me move these pallets around on the truck.My warehouse then pipes up and says it illegal to carry them on a lorry■■?
Is that the case? I am driving an 18t curtain side Man TGM.
I cant find anything online saying whether its ok.I have seen loads of lorries carrying them though
I know a Netherland Company which has double Decker doing UK-Benelux and they have Powered Pallet trucks on the trailer.
As long as its fixed is nothing why not.
beanie:
I’m sure, powered pallet truck is not designed to go over cobbles, it is meant for a smooth warehouse floor. What if it runs out of charge when you are doing the delivery and how are you going to get back to the wagon when it weighs 750kgs? And yes it would have been delivered on a lorry.
I agree with ShropsBri, get the pallet broken down to a more manageable size. More trips from the wagon to point of delivery, equals more hours eqauls more pay and less drops done and less personal injuries!
Were bad if Battery runs flat,right.
You also cant go over steps and tail-lift needs to carry that weight,right
But how is it with a Moffat?
If Pallet is that Heavy then they need to supply Tools,Drivers Mate or send smaller Pallets.
But i dont think its drivers work to break Pallets down.Thats warehouse work
It looks like pulling a 1000kg load on a pump truck uphill on cobbles would far exceed the 20kg HSE weight guide-line. If these are regular drops in an area with members of the public walking about and you are using an un-braked pump truck then your company would be looking at huge liability if one of these loads got away from you. Before you do anything else, put your concerns in writing to who ever is in charge of H&S at your place, if only to cover yourself.
I used to work for coca cola driving class 2 delivering to places. All the pop was on pallets and all the wagons had electric pump trucks on. They had to be strapped down after every use. Made the job very easy
Daftdafdriver:
I used to work for coca cola driving class 2 delivering to places. All the pop was on pallets and all the wagons had electric pump trucks on. They had to be strapped down after every use. Made the job very easy
Yep, saw a beer delivery wagon the other day, curtainsider with an electric pump truck on, the stand on kind and looked like it was making their life easier too. First time I’ve seen that on the road!
Not got a problem with strapping them down afterwards either, but if you’re delivering on cobbled areas then life will get more difficult for it won’t it!
There is no reason you cannot carry a powered pallet truck, electric, diesel or LPG although inside a covered lorry may be a problem. The problem lies with the rough terrain though as most all terrain trucks surround the pallet and not go through the webs.
This would prevent you stacking two pallets side by side. A moffett would be preferable or a second man
