Potential Problems Ahead?

Change of life circumstances a few years back and I chucked my job and went on agency, landed what I consider a good number, mostly day to day bookings, but very occasionally booked for a week or more at a time. Sometimes I get cancelled at short notice (but not short, short), sometimes I get a call in the morning asking me to go to one of the firm’s sites ASAP, swings and roundabouts. I could earn more doing other stuff, but quite like the job and a few years in there’s not much I don’t know about.

My ‘forte’ is that I’m more than happy to work out of the firm’s most distant site (roughly an hour’s drive from their main base), it would be a good screw for any of their employed drivers as they’d get both a fuel allowance along with paid travelling time when needed to cover sickness/ holidays, but for whatever reason around 80% of the time it’s agency used to cover, more often than not me and/or one other.

I’ve been sounded out as to whether I’d be interested in going over as full time out of that site, rough calculations say that I’d be doing 20k a year mileage in my car, fine if I still get the fuel allowance (as I do now) and even better if I’d also get the travelling pay (which I don’t), together they’ll add up to a decent sum. It could potentially make me the highest paid driver on the firm and that’s without the plentiful overtime available at various times of the year.

If it is offered with their current terms and conditions then financially I’d be stupid not to take it, but how does that stand with the rest of the workforce? Is there going to be a jealousy/ tension build up? No idea if this is being/ has been offered internally, but going on the refusal from so many to travel as holiday/sick cover over recent years it’s probably irrelevant, but obviously won’t stop moaning that I’m getting what they’re not regardless of the fact that they won’t do it in the first place.

Who cares what other drivers think, do what’s right for you. If they have a problem with it they can bring it up with the boss.

A.

Pretty much that ^^^^^. You don’t go to work to win popularity contests, you go to provide for you and yours. End of.

Don’t worry about the other drivers, they wouldn’t be bothered about you if the boot was on the other foot. Best keeping yourself to yourself and be polite in their company. I get text messages from the other drivers every day asking where I am going and what am I up to. They don’t give a toss other than to simply find out if your getting anything better than they have. If you can get a better deal then my advice is take it.

I do agency and work in other companies. I am polite but just get on with my job. I don’t get involved with the politics and petty conversations. Makes for a better life.

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Stuff the other drivers. They had plenty of opportunity to go for it themselves and they haven’t which is why there is so many agency going there.

At the end of the day not one of them would pay your mortgage and bills if you didn’t go for the job because you didn’t want to upset them.

No one’s going to say anything and if they did, just nod and smile. If there’s one thing I’ve learnt the hard way, it’s that I’m the only bugger that looks after me.

Actually, by your own observations - should you go full time, they’ll then give the premium allowance paid stuff to some new agency bod, and leave you on the sidelines.

This is what happens when you get more and more yards with no Union of course. The plum work that would cost more to put a full timer on - gets hived out to agency.
Eventually, you see a whole crowd of agency doing all the cushy runs, whilst the full timers get the “hard work, specialist runs that need a more experienced pair of hands”. - And the tables have well and truly been turned.

Do we still hear tales of “They asked for you by name” when talking of agency?

Nope. Nowadays it’s more like “You’re a full timer, and I need your experience on this stable mucking job/central london multidrop/cleaning out the tanker/putting all the yard vehicles through the wash” whilst we give what would have been your double bubble run to some place 2-3 hours out a min 8 hours at single rate to agency guy - who’ll grab it with both hands 'cos he’ll be back in 6 hours and be paid minimum 8…

Firms seem to be bending over backwards to give agency bods the plum jobs now. Hasn’t anyone else noticed this in the past year in particular?

Winseer:
Actually, by your own observations - should you go full time, they’ll then give the premium allowance paid stuff to some new agency bod, and leave you on the sidelines.

This is what happens when you get more and more yards with no Union of course. The plum work that would cost more to put a full timer on - gets hived out to agency.
Eventually, you see a whole crowd of agency doing all the cushy runs, whilst the full timers get the “hard work, specialist runs that need a more experienced pair of hands”. - And the tables have well and truly been turned.

Do we still hear tales of “They asked for you by name” when talking of agency?

Nope. Nowadays it’s more like “You’re a full timer, and I need your experience on this stable mucking job/central london multidrop/cleaning out the tanker/putting all the yard vehicles through the wash” whilst we give what would have been your double bubble run to some place 2-3 hours out a min 8 hours at single rate to agency guy - who’ll grab it with both hands 'cos he’ll be back in 6 hours and be paid minimum 8…

Firms seem to be bending over backwards to give agency bods the plum jobs now. Hasn’t anyone else noticed this in the past year in particular?

I understand what you’re saying, but my work life experiences do seem to be quite different to yours.

From when I started as a 19yo (3 and half tonners) I’ve almost always done the jobs that no-one else wanted to do, made it work for me and did quite well as a result (including backhanders/ tips), attitude to both employers and customers/ clients making all the difference.

So yes, I’ve had the worst lorries and ■■■■■■■■■ routes at some places, sometimes doing my day and walking away and sometimes, if I thought it worthwhile, putting a bit of effort in, doing the job given to me without any fuss and been given better vehicles and supposedly easier runs as a result. What is considered easy by some is an absolute pain in the backside to others. Being used a a pool/ relief driver FT and holiday/ sickness cover on agency, some employed drivers are clearly well protected by someone and have a cushy life, others get absolute ■■■■■ day in, day out.

The firm I’m working at does have a union, the reps make a lot of noise from time to time but any union is only as strong as it’s members, my last FT job had a high percentage of weak members, one of the reasons that I left, but not the main one.

I wouldn’t say what I’m being potentially offered is a ‘plum job’ if it was then they’d have no problem recruiting someone half decent locally and not even consider someone living 45 miles away, again, I’ve taken something that others don’t want to do for whatever reason and made it work for me, have no issues with anyone in the yard or the customers/ clients that they service, whilst a good number of the employed drivers do - attitude!

Whether it’s FT or agency, I get paid a wage to do a job, I just get on and do it, if plans change then I go where I’m told to and do what I’m asked to, if I have justifiable reasons to refuse a pick up/ load then I don’t kick off, talk sensibly to the office and/or client and they will invariably put it right without argument - attitude!

Having been told I would get more details yesterday and not had a call back then it’s probably not a goer anyway, no problem as I just keep going as I am, I’m not earning a fortune, but I’ll always have a roof over my head and we won’t be going hungry.

OP. :grimacing: they can only judge a man, once they’ve walked a mile in his shoes. :laughing: chin up, chest out and pull your buttocks in! :sunglasses:

Fatboy slimslow:
OP. :grimacing: they can only judge a man, once they’ve walked a mile in his shoes. :laughing: chin up, chest out and pull your buttocks in! :sunglasses:

Main reason I want full time, new boots and they sort out the next CPC :smiley:

Update for anyone marginally interested, as it’ll be my base then extra payments won’t happen, fair enough, but still better option than being based at the main site for me, job was offered, I accepted. This should see me through the next 10 years or so to retirement with little to no fuss.

Glad to see it worked out for you. Legally they couldn’t give you the extra money without you paying tax on it as HMRC would count it as your place of work.

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This.