Pop artist....HGV touring driver

Can’t find any info, so I’ll just ask……Was talking to this chap last night….whom worked for 7 years as touring truck driver……shipping stuff around the UK and Europe for pop artists (or whomever)……from concert site to concert site….but for family reasons has had to come home now. The way he described it….it sounds absolutely perfect for what I’ve been looking for!!!

Been travelling the world myself a couple of years ago ……working and partying …it was a mental dream come true……particular the period of just bumming out doing nothing…backpacking around South East Asia……for months.

Now I’m stuck back ere……which is alright as I love the bizarre change of job……and the freedom of driving for a few agencies as a LTD company……
With no dependants or nagging missus……….(seen n heard one to many horror stories)………one is free to do as one pleases ….hence why I’m happy (n’ free) …to work as many day’s as possible……Mainly due to the mission of pay-off me relatively small mortgage ASAP……
The idea of ■■■■■■■ up….and having to start again or renting….is a big NO…NO….
The cost nowadays……is just too stupid!!!
(I’m ■■■■■■■■■■ today though…it’s Sunday…and I haven’t had any work…….that’s a very bad day of business!!!)

Anyhow getting back to the point……Has anyone or know anyone….whom has done this type of work■■?..…What it all about■■?..…What’s the money like■■?...Hrs■■?..How long r u away 4■■?...Conditions■■?...What experience is needed■■? Basically I need to know everything about the job?..I’m excited!!!..…Whom the hell do u contact■■?..Do they deal with limited companies■■?..…Is there a waiting list■■?...The questions just go on………and on….and on
The bloke I meet last night answered most….but it’s always better getting more that one persons view………

Ta

Edwin Shirley Transport

StageTruck

Redburn Transfer

They all do that sort of work. I knew a couple of lads who did this type of work, although it was a few years ago - one had his name on a Tina Turner album as a Transportation Crew Leader. Money went into the bank at home and didn’t need touching as they lived on the night out money, which was paid at the start of each week. They rarely had to buy food as catering was always on site and extra money could be earned by doing another job during the concert, working a follow spot or something similar. You would be away for long periods, but it doesn’t sound as if that would be an issue.

I’m sure there are members who have done this work so they would have more info for you.

K-B Event do that type of work too.My brother’s mate is touring with Scissor Sisters with them

Ta Coffey…Being away…as a rule wouldn’t be a problem…but at the same time it could…which has been bugging me… :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused:

Done the renting business before…and simply had enough of it…just want quiet life…(or a fight with u lot)…

Luckily before when i was away…I had a house mate whom i knew and trusted…but has now moved around the corner…married with two kids…Everyone else i know is similar…so it’ll be a case of getting strangers…which always leads into the unknown!!!

Then…when i get back…I don’t want to have to stay in a hotel…I just want to come home…
On top of that…this little house needs some serious time n’ work doing to it…don’t me wrong…it is clean and tidy…(well relatively tidy for a bloke…but certainly clean)…making it a little awkward to rent…
Although i could rent it on the bases…free rent for work done…

My logic as stated eariler…is to invest in clearing the mortgage first…then do it up nice…Never ere anyhow!!!

Then again if i cut a few corners it could be done basic…

Sorry am i rattling on…just thinking aloud…

Does anyone know roughly how long a period your away for…is it a mixture of short and very long periods…

Bit worrying if u get assigned to some rubbish sounding band…and have to put with their wailing every night…Do u get some choice■■?

Bloke was telling me about Metallica…!!!
U’ll be ■■■■■■■ lucky…not even two minutes :imp: :imp: :imp: :imp: :imp:

Right jokes over cant you please just drop all the bloomin…

This looks like an interesting topic but tbh i cant be arsed to read it among all the …

Sorry but it just gets in the way :imp:

We do this sort of work.

Downsides
On tour you can be away for months, It ain’t glamourous, its stupid O’clock most of the time, its go go go then wait around for ages, then go go go again, its heavy, hard work for not a huge hill of beans. Its usually quite difficult to get involved with. You rarely get to see the artists or show.

Upsides
On tour you can be away for months, It can be a good laugh when its all going right, or at least when its not your fault that its all going wrong. You rarely get to see the artists or show.

Add to the list of places to try:

Fly by night
Stage Electrics
Stardes
Trans Am Trucking

It must be a similar job to Race trucking and will normally be hard work, low wages and lots of weekends away. Most times you will miss the action because you are busy doing something else or trying to catch up on some sleep.

I drove a transporter for a bike racing team and got some satisfaction from the job, never get rich though

I think it might be less glamorous than you think or imagine. The major players in the UK are EST, Redburn Transfer, Stagetruck, Fly By Nite, KB, Trans-am and Stardes, but there are also a fair number of smaller operators.

Whats it all about: Getting a production from one place to another?

Money: Not very good in its basic form, most drivers do other things, say a followspot call or merchandise to boost income, there are a few perks, PDs, catering, so its possible to get a much better figure on the right tour.

How long away: I day to 3 months, however long the tour is.

Experience: Nothing really more than the ability to drive the truck, a background in production would help, you need to have an understanding of what’s in the back, but that would soon come.

There are many different types of tour, but lets say it’s a shed tour. There might be 5 - 10 trucks carrying the production for an arena tour. The catering and light trucks would be in first, somewhere around 8.00 - 9.00am, then the sound and backline trucks. The order is reversed on load out, so the poor light trucks will be out last, maybe 1.00am finish on load out. Then you can drive to the next city. Your driving job is as far as the next gig, could be 2 hours, could be 2 or 3 days. The arena tour days are mostly the same, there is catering, so you eat for nothing and during the day you sleep.

Bigger tours, say Rolling Stones will also run with an advance system, perhaps the main stage and lighting mothergrids, its normal that there is a A and B system leapfrogging the main show, as there is only so much time during a day to get production in. In this case while system B is doing the show system A is being installed somewhere else. These tours are pretty easy, a fair number of drivers involved, truck and nightliners, it’s a good laugh I think, very boring for the most part. These load ins and load outs are very tight with time, stuff fly’s out on a load out and everything has an order and place. You would be involved with the loading and in the truck would be a number of local crew, your job is to get them to put the stuff in the right place, shut the doors and let the next truck in.

I would say that any company will have a number of long term drivers who get the pick of the tours, I see the same faces all the time, it may be harder to get this kind of tour.

Down the scale a bit we get the one truck tours, doing the Odeon’s and Civic Halls. I am doing lights on such a tour at the moment, we have a nightliner for the crew and one truck from Stardes for the production. Its quite easy, midday load in and we are out by midnight. We carry no catering, but get PDs and the promoter pays a “buy out” for food. The tip is 20 minutes and about 50 mintues for the repack. This week we were in Northampton, Bolton, Fareham and Torquay, so our driver drove overnight and parked at the venues, the nightliner has 12 people on and we all shower after the gig, so we arrive an hour or so after the truck. The driver might get 4 hours sleep, then the load in and then he goes back to bed. He come is for the followspot call, show comes down and we send the stuff out in the right order and with 2 local crew he loads the truck.

Not for a light sleeper, these gigs are in the centre of towns and cities often parked on the main street with all the roaring traffic passing by. I think the driver has a tough job for the most part, not as hard as the nightliner driver perhaps, but it can be very tiring and boring. On a good tour the crack is great and a day off with all the crew and band can be a very fun time. Well that’s a sort of overview, hope it helps.

Andy

We sub a lot for EST. We have just finished the Madonna tour.

As has been said, silly o’clock working hours. Maybe away 3 months at a time. You have to be able to get on with people.

I don’t do so much tour work myself as I am getting too old for it now but the guys who do it clear nearly £3k a month.

Gone for a bike ride…post a reply soon!!!

can’t wait :unamused:

Stage Truck are after class 1 drivers on their website!!!

Harry Monk:
We sub a lot for EST. We have just finished the Madonna tour.

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Where you been? Malawi

Sod it…just got to watch this Korean movie first…

Wheel Nut:

Harry Monk:
We sub a lot for EST. We have just finished the Madonna tour.

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Where you been? Malawi

hehehe nice one

Cheeky ■■■■■■■ at NTL…Filmfour is now free…but they still have it on some premium channel business…not happy :imp: :imp: :imp: :imp:
First time I’ve switched the TV on in months…

Anyhow…first of all thanks for your replies…especially Andy

The glamorous side of it…I’m not really bothered about…don’t really want to be around artists or any pretentious people………and defiantly not those corporate arse lickers.
Nah just the general crew of ordinary folk……will do me……same like the people I meet all the time nowadays……….some ■■■■■■■■■■■■■■ most r sound…just ordinary general folk……

The money, travel and sharing of such time with others……was what appeals to me……having done it before

The money doesn’t sound as good as described yesterday…and at present (if Harry’s correct)….I’m on just a little less……although I’m not sure how much Gordie will be bugging my accountant 4………
I’m home every night/day……. + don’t really do much work at all…………Mr POA that’s me….either sleeping, playing on my laptop or dawdling around

The bloke I was talking to had been in the game 7 years……from 7.5ton….to class1…so he probably got to pick n’ choose….Thinking about it he did mention some big names……so that may explain the big figures…
It does surprise me though that in a business with big money flying around……drivers whom…must get the gear there without fail…wouldn’t be well sorted anyhow……errrrmmm

He did say it’s hard work…when work needs to be done….and u do drive around at funny hrs……whilst all r asleep…………Which is a fair bit of what I do now……weekends included when everyone else is partying…….(sorry just a greedy git for weekend rate……+ Pubs n’ clubs ere r ■■■■■ anyhow compare to some places I’ve been)…….

He also mentioned when it ■■■■■-up…don’t be the cause of it!!!

Is it true that as a driver u r still treated as an equal to everyone else and not ‘Just the driver’■■?
It was explained for example……if a corporate tour was having their normal dinner…you weren’t just cast outside…out of view….but invited in to join…no big deal……….obviously no ‘Professional Bums’ allowed……
Also….if the crew were being set up in an hotel…the driver was always naturally included…

Basically your seen as just as important as everyone else….if not more so………

BTW….I’ve noticed Daf’s r used on most of the websites…from your recommendations………I hope none of these companies have converted to MAN’s….cos I ain’t bumming out for more that 1 day in one of those heaps…….

Does anyone know if they deal with Ltd company drivers■■?
Do they struggle to get drivers…taking into account….the time spent away from home…….Would have thought that would be an advantage in making it that easier to get in. …………or are there any agencies that supply drivers.

When saying so…I know ■■■■ all about trucks….only had me Class1 10 months……n’ to be honest with u…never really given a ■■■■■■■■
I make a nice few bob and it suits my life style
A background in production…….Nah…….Amplifier…What’s that■■?………….
I hope there would be some element of training on the job……and how to maintain the basics on the fleet truck!!!

Ta once again

smiley think of it as a removal as you will end up getting you ur hands dirty. that kind of job is a specialist area and dosent suit everyone the dead lines are extremly tight

usually the progression is start on a van
then move to 7.5 tonner
then 18 tonner
then may be wag and drag and or artic

this was told a few years ago by mr stardies himself as i looking to get in to that kind of job. but be warned if you do go for it it WILL be hard work and you social life will take a back seat

Have a look at this
amazon.co.uk/s/ref=nb_ss_w_h … ur+sabbath

I know you’re not after the glamour or the post gig parties, but it’s an entertaining read

I doubt you would be looked down on by the touring crew, not like the real world, everyone has a job on the production and everyone is important to the production. The only difference is the bus and truck drivers are doing their job when most of the production crew are off. On a smaller tour we often get up for a bit of breakfast and wake the driver up before load in with a coffee and a bacon buttie, everyone looks after each other.

The tours are well managed, too much money is at stake to risk silly moves. Tour mangers understand what is possible in a load out and load in, so if it looks like you will run out of hours, then they fly a second driver out. Most of the kit is very good, big cabs are the norm, as they should be, its gonna be your home for a few weeks. There are some old trucks out there, mostly because there is not a lot of mileage done in the long run, our tour has a 12-year-old Daf, but it still looks very good.

The trailer would be a step frame or mega cube, nothing special, the gear is moved off down alloy ramps, which live under the trailer. A lot of the roadcases involved are designed to fit in a truck, but some grey matter in the head at the first show is important, the gear come out the venue quick and the truck pack needs to keep up, so many drivers make drawings or take photos of each wall of cases, been on a couple of gigs when its gone wrong and we are left with a few cases on the road and no where to put them. You would soon learn what is in the cases and how best to place them, not a good idea to have the rigging and motor boxes up high, not if you want to make friends with the local crew.

On days off, there are hotels, many drivers stay in the cab as they do a deal with the production and get some money instead of a hotel room, but it would be normal that members of the crew will give them access to their rooms to shower and then everyone goes out together. The tour manager will sort of free entrance to a nightclub, sometimes the bar is free, Hamburg can be a blast!!!

As already said, your money gets put in your account and its easy to live off very little as most things are provided.

The hours are bad or strange, sure, but most of the crew do strange hours, so its just the way it is, the top riggers will do the same odd hours, having to sleep between shows, I have managed to sleep on a roadcase while Metallica were playing 10 meters away.

There are a few different elements to the job, apart from Rock “n” Roll there are theatre moves, exhibition work. I think it’s a state of mind as well, this is not for everyone. At this time I live on a bus with 12 other people, it’s a nice bus with AC, Plasma TVs, but it’s a small space for so many people and I sleep in a bunk were I can only just turn over without my body hitting the roof and sleep while the bus is moving, then get up in the morning and climb 15 or 20 meters and hang some points, it’s a way of life, some very good parts of it, but some real downside.

andy pattern