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oh the poor little lambs we should compensate them immediatly its not their fault they trecked 10’s of thousands of miles in over crowded vehicles paying for the privilege which is where they got the infections and disease probably. No this must stop immediatly they must be put up in single rooms in 4 star hotels and fed 4 meals aday from the get go.

oh wait…they bloody are.

If any clown entertains this crap i seriously hope it comes back to bite them

They do,.and it WILL …no mistake.

Trouble is it will also come back and bite the rest of us also.

well i personally think that anyone that allows these illegals into the country should be held liable for them. oh they have rapped a young child you go to jail for assisted r4pe oh they have killed 100 people you go to jail for manslaughter etc etc it might focus their minds a bit more.

bit of trump justice is what we need … you allowed this to happen you go to jail.

The inquiry into the Southport ‘‘Christian Welsh Choirboy’’ murder atrocity starts today.

There will be a few twitchy arse holes in the vicinity of no10, although I reckon he’ll be fireproof as far as revelations and confirmations of alleged cover ups go.

They could save thousands because we all know the usual crap that will come out..

The obligatory ‘‘Lessons have been learned’’ cliche springs to mind…
I would prefer ‘‘Heads will roll’’ and ‘‘Hang em high’’'.

Maybe a swift bullet behind the ear for Welsh Choirboy for good measure.
Never happen unfortunately more than likely a claim of mental health instead if/when the Lefty lawyers get involved.

i bet you a pizza and a 4 pack of your favourite tipple that amazon will be blamed for him getting a knife and the do good hand wringers that were supposed to work with him will be blaimed for not following up with the filth when he wasnt cooperating. The parents will go into hiding at tax payers expense and the gov will be exonerated as although they are in charge and stipulated what was released etc starmers mates will look after them

Having sabotaged/mothballed our coal resources and wanting China to take all the oil and gas what are you going to use when the wind isn’t blowing and sun not shining ?.You know during those freezing cold short sunless winter days under cold high pressure.
Your real agenda is fossil fuel for China while burning our forests and trees for fuel and covering our farmland in solar panels.Bonus points for a Chernobyl or two.

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well if we do end up with a chernobyl we have plenty of illegals to run out and pick up the rubble a 60 seconds at a time

Another one abusing our hospitality, terrorist tendencies.

At least the clampdown on free speech has bitten one of them on the arse for a change…wonders will never cease.

too bad he want sentanced under the terrorism laws like he should of been… minimum of 14 years not under 4

Or better still deported.
Why should we have to keep him alive…what use is he exactly?
Just send him back permanently to where he came from.

This has aways been my argument and oddly enough it is largely ignored or denied by the lefty liberal illegal immigrant supporters. Why after crossing an ENTIRE CONTINENT do these “war torn” persecuted people feel the need to risk their lives for A 2ND TIME getting in a dinghy at Calais, then playing Russian roulette in the English channel with their lives, when they simply could have avoided that risk by staying put in the 2nd, 3rd 4th, 5th, 6th etc safe country that they found themselves in along their journey from the middle east or Africa? :thinking:

My dear good man,

WHAT?

I ain’t clear on your response. Were you combining replies by any chance?

For the record. I’m the very last left leaning person you’d ever find suggesting that cutting down forests to burn in power stations is remotely a good idea.
It’s yet another capitalist scam. The tree to furnace process probably uses up more fossil fuels than the power station would otherwise on coal. I am on record for clearly condemning the international trade in wood pellets.

Oh and don’t forget, those pesky eco warriers that annoy you so much, they have stopped the wood pellet trains before as well as fuel tankers. I’ve roundly condemned the likes of Drax for cheating the taxpayer out of millions for so called eco fuel which investigations have shown were as much virgin forest, as waste wood trimmings.

I’m also on record for condemning the large scale misuse of farmland for solar farms. It’s plainly wrong that a vital natural resource we need to minimise the vast amount of imported food, should be used for solar that attracts large subsidies even when conventional power stations are churning at full power and the solar energy gets ignored. Again it’s a capitalise scam, taking taxpayer money and shovelling it into a few rich bar stewards pockets.

I’m also on record for having zero love for the Chinese. They have an oppressive regime that treats the majority of their people badly, and some minorities like the Uyghur who have been rounded up and imprisoned to be used as cheap labour.

Eh? At least you didn’t mention 15 speed boxes. Do you think I’m insane as well… Nuclear radiation can hang around an awfully long time. Given the choice between nuclear fission and coal, neither of which are cool, one still has to choose coal and hope that soon this new kid on the block actually works without blowing half the world up. It will be fascinating if nuclear fusion can be made to work as it could be that key decisive development that actually makes true space travel possible.

But given how insane and incompetent supposed geniuses like musk are, I’m not holding my breath. Anyway. Back your road train up a bit. Mothballed? You do know that A.) it was maggie efffing thatcher that ruined the coal industry. And that even though some deep mines were “mothballed” in reality as anyone with knowledge of mining will tell you. Unless you actively maintain a deep mine, things get a bit wet down there. Over time existing excavations start to collapse which are far harder to clear later because the entire overburden starts to shift down. Very few deep mines in the UK could be reopened.

Maybe, instead of all the waste and administrative costs that have gone on previous house insulation schemes could be prevented. A proper scheme that tackles the worst insulated houses first, knuckles down and gets the job done.

Try this for economic logic. If something needs doing, and the cost of not doing it increases year on year. And the cost of doing it also increases year on year. And the negative effects on the people affected by not doing it, also add on over time in terms of health.

Then why the duck don’t we get on NOW with doing it. Keep saying, oh we can’t afford it. Bull. We can’t afford not to. How long would you drive a vehicle with a leaking fuel tank saying, ah no, can’t afford to fix that. Very similar. waste of fuel. more inconvenience because you have to refuel more often. More danger because petrol could ignite, or someone slip on diesel.

And, the more you need a commodity which is finite, the more it’s cost goes up. 101 law of economics - supply and demand. You know, how OPEC keep trying to reduce production to force the barrel price up. (and all the while the Saudis etc are investing heavily their profits in solar because they’re not stupid…)

So if we hurry up and get the worst homes insulated, we then need less energy, which means we need less energy generation, we reduce the energy price because we’re not demanding it so much.

Then we can spend the money then saved on other things. But all the time we buy the energy, then throw it out the roof and pooof, it’s gone. Gone whether it was useful or not. No matter how long we keep throwing energy way through bad insulation, the one thing it won’ do is somehow magically improve the insulation. Only by improving the insulation now, can we save energy later.

And solar on every roof that can take them. Then we won’t need so much extra transmission towers for importing electricity. It’s insane that neither tory nor labour have made it law to design all new buildings to the highest standards now. Again, at some point it will need doing, and it’s darned easier to fit insulation as you build than add it later.

Oh but that will put the cost of houses up you say.
And here we go around in another circle. Why does building materials cost so much now?
Plastics, cement, aggregate, timber, bricks etc etc. Because the cost of energy is so much higher. Bricks and cement need a lot of energy to make. And it all needs transporting.
So if we keep cost cutting, we keep using more energy which means energy costs keep rising which means material costs keep rising which means house prices keep rising.

Part of the huge cost of housing is profit for the builders anyway, Barratts, Persimmon, and Taylors are hardly slumming it. And the other major cost is land. As we’re not building land anymore, that cost ain’t gonna drop ever, so again, get cracking now with the hard stuff. Insulate buildings properly now, save energy going forward, reduce the need for power stations and gas imports, slow the energy cost rises or even reverse them.

Meanwhile.

Sorry to burst your bubble but labour and the unions finished the mines off. Thatcher tried to save them but because of the union rights and the strikes when she tried to change things they couldnt be made to run cost effectively.

As to home energy saving schemes they will never work. A large proportion of houses that need modernisation in that sense dont have cavity walls. Lots of them have walls built out of slag and other materials. The next issue is houses have to be able to breathe its no good rushing round plugging up every little gap. Then you have these stupid boiler replacement scams and smart meters. All that does is cause far more pollution rushing round installing then fixing them. The only sensible answer is find an energy source that causes minimal pollution and works with the countries climate ie nuclear.

If THIS does not prove what I have been saying about freeloading '‘asylum seekers’'and their pi55 takes…I do not know what could prove it anymore than this.
Does anybody remember of any WW2 Jewish refugees reportedly going back to Poland to visit their friends?
Refugees my arse…we are being taken for a very expemsive ride and laughed at.
Looking forward to our resident apoloogist’s take on this one.:grinning_face_with_smiling_eyes:

Watch in disbelief…and anger.

..https://youtu.be/nY2EFBQLM5E?si=QY1La3h53nCCc3QT

nothing new here… i know it said in the clip that he got the money from another illegal but i susspect that if not him others have got it from the gov in some way. we used to pay for the ee’s to go home with their vehicles stuffed with goodies paid for with untaxed cash for their mansions.

The bit that wasnt discussed was that these people are supposed to be christian escaping from a muslim country where they are being persecuted yet they want to go back to celebrate eid a muslim celebration.

Kahn saying london is a multi cultural and diverse city is cobblers when is the last time you saw xmas trees and streamers and all the other decorations in trafalgar square the most they have is a few plain lights that celebrate the festival of light.

It makes no difference there’s no way of clearing a line of cyclists, that long, without meeting something going in the opposite direction.

If an asylum seeker returns to their home country for am holiday or similar, that looks like evidence that they are not in danger there, and so should not qualify for asylum in the UK, nor anywhere else.
That seems quite clear and obvious to me.

If some are taking the piss, then they are illegally here, and should be deported.
Those who are not taking the piss should be dealt with like human beings.

2024
https://londonist.com/london/christmas-in-london/trafalgar-square-christmas-tree
And here is a list of 2025 trees for you to witness your own self.
https://www.visitlondon.com/things-to-do/whats-on/christmas/best-christmas-trees-in-london

So as a percentage, …
In your considered opinion (being that they have already reached (and left) god knows how many SAFE countries…(ie their primary quest as a bonafide refugee,) to reach here for the second to none land of milk and honey type iincentive in all of Europe…AND by putting themselves in the worst danger so far in their journey from home to do so and that the absolute vast majority of them are young men more than capable of defending any war) …how many are taking the pi55??
My estimate…98%
What s yours?