Political discussions...

fair point i miss read it… still suffering from last nights beers and curry

By definition net zero means higher energy prices.

Could be worse you could have fell for TWO April fool gags..:roll_eyes::joy:
You need to watch yourself on here now for any faux pa.s…Franglais jumps on them like a 'kin ninja.:roll_eyes: :grin:

not to rub salt in the wound but im guessing you didnt read all the article about the truck

thing is though the FIT (feed in tariffs) have fallen as the price has gone up

Nah I was ‘starstruck’ by the pic.:joy:
I do like ute type pick up trucks,.and the pic appealed to me.
I used to get told off at school often for ‘‘not reading the question properly’’…same with posts and links from certain ones on here.:grin:
I have a low boredom threshold…or is that a high
one.

git has more hair than me despite being over 10 years older.
didn’t think much to his style of political action, if I remember right from those balmy summer days watching that codswallop, he had a tendency to run whenever there was trouble, usually the trouble he had made.

I agree the energy system we have is totally corrupt and starmeeeeee has done bo diddly squat to correct that. You know why people getting FIT are receiving naff all? it’s because the true cost of solar and wind is so low, and the companys are hardly likely to pay more for your generated juice than their own. The reason why we have to pay through the nose for energy is because it’s all traded on the international markets. And they sell the juice for a price that

makes nuclear energy seem profitable or at least break even, else if nuclear had to compete directly for price with wind and solar, we’d see just how expensive it really was. And that’s before the cost of the clear up afterwards and storing the waste somewhere

We’re being conned. And yes, labour are as bad as tory for perpetuating that lie.

see my above pal. It’s simply not true that green energy costs more. It’s the market rigged to make nuclear seem cost effective.

you do realise that with the money starmer has sent to france to tackle the illegals we could of built a nuclear station that would power every household in the country.

The issue is thanks to labour we dont have anyone that could run one or even build one. European countries dont want to build it for us as they were part of labours plan to make us totally dependent on the rest of the world. That only leaves america or china pretty much. You dont want the chinese involved as we will be at their mercy like we are with russia. America is too busy building their own reactors.

Then of course you have the nuclear fusion pipe dream with the likes of starmer beliving were world leaders like we are in ai and all the other crap he keeps spouting.

What ?
If I hadn’t paid for a house I could have had more foreign holidays.
If I hadn’t paid into a pension I could have bought an Aston Martin.

And the actual you seem to be talking of are pure fiction too.

Hinckley Point C, so far 8 years to build, is expected to cost £46bn, and produce 3.2MW, less than10% of UK needs.

Sunak signed a deal giving France half a billion over 3 years.

So (back of a fag packet) it would take 3 centuries for your statement to make any sort of sense at all, and any scheme taking 3 centuries is beyond the pale.

France and China are providing the expertise and finance for Hinkley Point C. It was a deal signed by the Tories, not Labour.

Right…all one of them under construction at the moment.
And with “drill baby drill” and carbon companies pet in the White House is that likely to increase soon?

no that is what we are paying the french to build it. im sure if i looked around i could find a builder to build me a 3 foot wall for a billion if i so wished.

so what your saying is that it would cost 50 billion
lets look at that…

“The modelling uses a $10 billion per gigawatt (GW) cost for large-scale nuclear reactor construction. However recent international experience shows actual construction costs of $15 billion to $28 billion per GW excluding financing costs. This is 1.5 to almost three times the Coalition Opposition figure.

so even taking the highest end of that estimate your saying we need 2gw/h aprox yes i know 28 x 2 is 56 so 6 billion more but for something so over the top i cant be bothered to get the calculator up.

We estimate the typical household in England, Scotland and Wales uses 2,700 kWh of electricity and 11,500 kWh of gas in a year.

This translates to 7.4 kwh (rounding up) per day.

Families and households in the UK - Office for National Statistics.
There were 28.4 million households in the UK in 2023,

so… 28.4 million * 7.4 = 21016000 kwh per day or 21 mwh per day

as above your plan is to build one that is capable of supplying 2000 mwh or 48000 mwh per day so according to you we have 64.9 billion homes.

in the real world rather than the tree hugging leftie wanna be belive what your told world as said there are 28.4 million households. at 28 billion per gw/h that works out to 28 million per mw/h so your right i was over estimating by a factor of 20.

where did i say labour signed the deal… i said

because between the idiots in the 70’s and early 2000 they smashed up all the industry in this country and made it possible for what remained to be shipped over seas and staffed with cheap labor not to mention the flood gates they opened.

https://www.eia.gov/energyexplained/nuclear/us-nuclear-industry.php#:~:text=and%20the%20environment-,Close,3%20at%20the%20Alvin%20W.

i forgot to add this to the post.

glad to see your beginning to see the real world although the aston martin is a bit of an exaggeration. now just apply that to houses and you will see we dont need any more.

Again the official rhetoric default b/s…‘‘The last govt’’ this, that and the other.

So has THIS govt attempted to change any of that, and the complete waste of money by clamping down on your ‘‘irregular’’ immigrats?..oh no I forgot they are ‘‘refugees’’ aren’t they.:roll_eyes:

That amount and the ridiculous amount spent daily and counting, on all the scum in your ‘‘hostels’’ is irrelavant in terms of total amount …
Whether it is half a billion or half a 'kin crown it is money wasted that could be put to better use towards our country.

Sunak’s Gov started reducing the time it took to process asylum claims, that had shot up under Johnson.
I can’t find any recent figures but hope the numbers being processed at any one time, and hence the total number being housed by the taxpayers to continue to reduce.

So in comparison to this and cases like it,.what is the latest development (if any) on the Manchester airport thugs?

I thought crimes of and potential charges of assault and battery, GBH,.and assaulting a Police officer (s) was a serious crime certainly worth pursuing to the end,.and even fast track…Not some random bird on FB saying ‘‘hurty words’’ and possiblly offending snowflakes type woke crap.

Are they hoping we will all forget, and it will go away, or is it being treated like the Asian r4pe gangs, by walking on egg shells,.again in fear of ‘‘offending’’.
Got to say this…How would Trump deal with it?

Whoops there I go again showing disaproval of the 2 tier race crime and justice system, cue the default discussion stifling lefty accusations of racism to anyone who dare to do so.

Wow!..An admission at last :flushed_face:
Ah well ‘‘from little acorns’’ etc etc :joy:

last i heard they were worrying about the rights of the perpertrators… and how they were going to sue the world

i know i think his account has been hacked… he even admited that how you spend your money depends what you get.

Still no news on how many ‘‘irregulars’’ he is willing to put up yet.:joy:
Maybe he’s getting a security lock fitted on his bedroom door first,just to be on the safe side…a
An open mind at last.:joy:

Effin unreal…suing the government…presumably by a wealthy opportunist lefty lawyer on the ECHR ticket.
You would think that ANY conditions would be an improvement on their …‘‘War Torn Countries’’ .

Looks like 4 star hotels are the least standards they expect and accept now then..
Then we are told they are not taking the pi55 at our own expense.
All this crap really has to stop NOW,.seriously.
It is all just gut wrenchingly annoying…or is it just me?

Unless we leave the ECHR this will NEVER end. And we need to stop calling them asylum seekers as they most definitely ain’t