Meanwhile the term not a cat in hell’s chance is now turns into not a dog in Wales’ chance.Also looks like we’ll have to compromise on the bacon sandwich for lunch in the week and a couple of pints and a packet of crisps before roast Pork and apple sauce on Sunday.
too bad starmer said he would do it as soon as he got into power huh. that along with solving the nhs waiting list crisis by creatiing 40,000 more appointments securing teachers a better deal etc etc. oh and we must not forget that no working person will be worse off and he wouldnt be raising taxes.
what like boris with his plans you mean that tyou have constantly derided?
@robroy i read a good bit of propaganda that was in the telegraph i think… there reason that all the illegals are male is they put the women and children in the middle of the huddle on the boats and they are either crushed to death or suffocate!!
failed to point out that any decent morale male would make sure the women and children were ok
What’s the relevance in relation to my point?
Well it did as those illegal migrants starting making their way into the Republic of Ireland to avoid deportation. Sorry no tedious link included to back up my statement, so it’s obviously not true as far as you are concerned because you personally haven’t seen evidence. 
Glad you managed to squeeze some Tory bashing in too.
But it didn’t deter anyone. They made the crossing, applied for asylum and for those who thought the application would be rejected they did a runner across the Irish Sea to have another go at it
Anyone who went to Ireland must have already been in the uk and clearly hadn’t been deterred from coming here
Especially for @Franglais to view.
This is especially aimed at any Left wing pontificating gobshi*es who may or may not be on here, who defend the official narrative and the govt’s illegal immigration policy (or lack of policy)
Those who sit safe in the knowledge that it does not affect them, presumably living in some idyllic chocolate box rural village, or isolated market town.
Their only experience of immigrants is that nice Mr Patel from the corner shop, or some of the ones like who I know, such as the top lads in my local Indian restaurant for instance.
Because all this stuff about hostile young illegal, alien cultured men that they ‘Know’ so much about are only put in hotels in cities, the likes of Manchester, Newcastle, Carlisle…wrong again. 
Take heed of this, delivered by ‘Herbert off you tube’ (or an everyday ordinary Joe type of guy…or presumably in their eyes ‘a far right racist bigot’ .)
So not just the likes of the aforementioned cities, but now sleepy rural villages are getting infested with…you guessed it ‘young men of fighting age’ with no recorded history, with all the potential sh storm this can, (and invariably does) bring.
So watch out for the intimidation of girls and women I have continuously told you about, whilst they loiter around the duck pond on yer village green 
, watch your doors…, and your house prices.
Welcome to Realworld.
(God the mischievous side of me sincerely hopes this applies to Franglais’ home town or village.)
I look forward to the comments if/when it does…(or by past experience when proven wrong… lack of commments.)
Has refugee applications increased in Eire? Yes.
Applications have increased in recent years in all European countries.
Has the increase all been applicants who were previously in the UK?
For those who were in the UK and then chose to carry on into Eire, why did they do that? Because of the party in power and the Rwanda scheme?
Eire Aug 2023…1,160… asylum applicants
and Aug 2024…1,692…asylum applicants.
So there has been an increase in Eire applications after the Rwanda scheme was ended and after Starmer was elected.
So far this year there has been more applications in Eire than in the whole of last year. After the Rwanda scheme was declared illegal by the UK courts.
Correlation is not causation.
Because numbers changed at the time the Rwanda scheme was started does not show that Rwanda was the cause.
I expect it did have some effect. I do not think it had an effect worth the hundreds of millions of quid thrown at the problem.
(Breaking news.ie 10/11/24 for stats)
I posted some facts with their source.
If that refutes what you have posted, then that is because you have posted something that is not factual.
I posted two lines of facts and a link. What is condescending about that?
Yes. I showed what is actually going on.
Exactly.
its like i said months ago there is no housing shortage they just want to build more houses to house the foreigners.
had you heard about the protest in wales that stopped the hotel being turned into a dumping ground? i hadnt
As you say ‘‘Exactly’’.
I’m wearing the appropriate T shirt.
More oblivious irony from you.
You ask what is condescending and know it all in attitude…and send me a post like that.
Nah I hadn’t mate.
Tbf you can’t really blame the hotel (or is it ‘Hostel’ now. ) owners.
It’s the young couples who had weddings booked who now have to try and find another venue down to these low lives who I feel sorry for.
Got to say at this point if we were talking genuine persecuted refugees, my opinion would be very different, but we all know apart from a lot of deluded pathetic idiots…that we AINT.
If their business is somewhere between struggling and on it’s arse, and some idiots are prepared to give them maximum income with wads of cash…(and then some) for an unlimited time, the dilemna is …
Do you stick to your right thinking moral principles, or get back on your feet financially for the good of your family?
Anybody can call me wtf they like, but I am grown up and realistic enough to admit I would more than likely take the latter, despite my very strong feelings on all this…speaking as somebody who actually HAS been on his arse bones.
Principles do not feed and house your family.
On the other hand full marks to those who told the govt to shove it.
i think its slightly more insidious than that. I know for a fact (family in the hotel trade in portsmouth at the time) That when the serbs were coming over during the croation war in the late 90’s that the government and local council suddenly brought in a load of building and health and safety regs that necessitated complete remodeling in some cases. Then the gov inspector would come along and say well you can either spend 200k getting upto code or take these poor unfortunates and we will pay for it
And others do too, remember the prison debate over the high Muslim prisoner population as against the UK wide Muslim population? UK Muslims make up 6% of total UK population (supposedly) yet the UK Muslim prison population is 18% (supposedly). Your words, those figures seem “fair”. Class.
Hmm blackmail eh?
Not sure that applies now, but I would put nothing past a govt who do the sort of stuff this lot does…or the Tories for that matter, they are all the same.
I would bet a weeks wages (not literally btw ) that my theory is more likely.
More bribery and corruption than blackmail…(allegedlly.)
An alleged epic cover up of the Southport atrocity no less.
Surely they aint going to reveal that the animal who killed those poor kids, aint a Welsh choirboy after all? 
I sincerely hope WHEN whatever they are hiding from us comes out, that it at least triggers off a no confidence move towards this shower of sh, and it is their downfall.
If you read the comments, I am sure it reflects the mood of the vast majorty of the country, which this crew just ignore.
No doubt the pathetically limp Liberal left will.also have their say,.and try and if not defend it, try and explain it…I certainly hope so, what they usually spout just speaks for it’s self and says more about them than anybody who opposes them ever could…a bit like on here in fact.
(Incidentally with reference to our own ex very vocal political critique, and all the present almost daily controversy going on presently, it makes me think of the old football chant…‘‘You’re not singing anymore’’.)
I predict that the time it takes for this case to come to court, will make the prosecution of the Manchester Airport incident lunatics, look like one of Starmer’s ‘Far Right’ fast tracks.
The subject matter of this tragic case, and the way they are dealing with it, should make this inept Government hang their heads in shame. 
I do wonder what else this lot and previous government’s have covered up in recent times and what they know and aren’t telling us for obvious reasons.
The recent bus incident in Edinburgh, the Chris Kaba case, the solider outside the barracks in Kent, the 3 people killed in my home city of Nottingham around a year ago - allegedly by someone with serious mental conditions (if you go by “official” sources).
So long as Starmer can kick the can down the road regarding a trial date it remains sub judice.It can’t possibly ‘blow up big time’ against the Starmer regime under that provision.They can also keep every detail of the trial and the verdict secret on grounds of national security.
Yep it makes you think.
Govts have always kept stuff from us when they could get away with it, if they know they cant get away with it, they chuck in an ‘official line’.
If you are naive and gullible you readily believe it, if you are a bit streetwise…you don’t.
The thing with the Southport case is Starmer was too quick to jump with his ‘far right’ horse sh.
Some of those ‘far right’ guys are now in jail, if it turns out that they were right all along, Starmer is going to look pretty stupid.
A particularly shocking rumour can be found on the internet, (nothing can be kept secret these days) if that is true, there will have to be resignstions in certain high profile positions …especially with the situation of criminals being allowed to stay in this country.
The bus incident has gone very quiet, a bit devoid of evidence considering the numerous cctv in Edinburgh, including on the buses, there is definitely scent of a rat…and it aint coming from any rats.
The soldier was a bit obvious, but was played down,…presumably to protect a certain demographic,.same reason with the airport incident…
That poor copper had to suffer whilst waiting to see if he was going to jail for killing that scrote, who was protected by news blackout, then his name was revealed, putting his family at risk…no news blackout or anonymity for him in the usual 2 tier way.
If you question this type of stuff, the trend is to be instantly written off as a tin foil hat conspiracy theorist, but if you are accused of that by a certain type of person…that is when you know you could be on to something.
Also when the words ‘mental’ and ‘health’ are used, the alarm bells also ring.
Saw an interview with Sadiq Khan the other day, think it was from LBC radio and the presenter kept pushing him about whether he was going to apologise to the armed officer for what he went through during the trial and the circumstances now with him having to go into hiding.
You can see Khan squirming at having to offer something that resembled an apology and boy was it obvious he was reluctant to give it. This is what people are up against.