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Dilshad Shamo, 41, and Ali Khdir, 40, both from Caerphilly would ya believe…are accused of unlawfully moving hundreds of people through Europe.
So 2 people from Wales involved in traffiking and people smuggling, and caught.
Dai Evans and Daffyd Jones from The Valleys?
Nah Ali Khadir and Dilshad Shalo from the Middle East.

Nice to see these people accept and appreciate the hospitality of the UK, and enhance our society with their business acumen.:roll_eyes:
At least they will be deported… oh hang on a minute.

“The trial continues on Wednesday”

I hope you are never asked to do jury service.

Yeah because they are obviously going to be found ‘Not Guilty’ , …if only because people like you will be speaking up for them eh?

Well since you have so often praised the police for being infallible, I guess that is why you always find anyone who ends up in court guilty.

ALWAYS?
So where did that assumption come from exactly?
Maybe you should get your facts straight before you make more accusations about me.
You know the far end of f/all about me mate.
Sort your own many shortcomings out before you try and predict mine .

(That was a very polite way of telling you to go and do something physically and 5ex ually impossible to yourself btw…:face_with_symbols_over_mouth:)

Looks like its karma for saying the Welsh are just Paddy’s that couldn’t swim.
For sandpit wastes dwellers this lot seem to have learn’t to swim or at least row a dhingy across the Med and the Channel and the Bristol Channel just fine.
I’m sure we’ll soon get used to the new diverse Welsh names as they become established.

Nice swerve, but you still haven’t addressed any of his points.

He won’t, he cant face up to the inconvenient truth, the truth that does not correspond with his official narrative.
‘Does not compute’.
Even if he did you know exactly what is coming.

He’d much rather drone on about Brexit and the Tories.

I thought his more recent posts were more rhetorical in nature, rather than actually questions, or raising points that needed addressing.

@robroy alternates between telling me to “shut up” and to stop being boring etc, and demanding immediate responses to his posts. I was getting a bit confused about what part of the cycle we were in at the moment. Sorry.

But since you seem keen for some to be responded to, I will try.

The same place that this came from?

Are people concerned about hostels for irregular immigrants being opened near them?
I expect they are.
Are their concerns being addressed? Clearly not well enough for some of them.

Is there enough housing available in the country? Clearly not.
Undersupply has been an ongoing problem under many different colour Govs. Nimbies like @robroy and others, shouting that “the country is full” is not helping things. He has failed in the past to respond to the point that other similar countries to ours have higher densities of population to ours, BTW.

I see (not surprisingly) you’ve been brainwashed into terming them irregular rather than illegal migrants. Must keep up the official narrative and all that.

You should be on the stage with routines like that mate.

You really can’t help yourself can you, not only the ‘irregular’ immigrant euphamistic b/s , but now we have… ‘hostels’ which kinda downgrades the facilities and the all inclusive hotel vibe…because ‘They aint really hotels’ in your lefty warped logic, which kinda ‘excuses’ the situation…news flash, It does not. !
Pure Lefty Liberal dog sh.

Nimby me?..:joy:
No mate more of a ‘Niaby’ …‘Not in anybodys back yard’…you conveniently ignore the fact these people are illegal, they should not be here, they have not escaped from a ‘war torn’ country, they have escaped from FRANCE.
You are like those planks with the ‘Asylum seekers welcome’ placards who come up withevery excuse under the sun when asked if they would take them into their homes, as people do with GENUINE refugees from the Ukraine…so get your vanity mirror out of your handbag to see a Nimby.

And housing? :joy:…Why the f should we house them when young indigenous couples are struggling to find homes.:roll_eyes:
We are a small island that is gettting full of the wrong sort of people who are of high criminal and terrorist potential, who take everything and give nothing in return.

Brain washed?
By using an accurate term, instead of a politically loaded and inaccurate one?
It seems to me that using one term to describe two different groups is both inaccurate and (probably deliberately) confusing. It is used by those who wish to confuse the issues at hand.

Illegal immigrants should be, and are deported. They have been deported by this and the previous Gov.

Most irregular immigrants on small boats were given refugee status by the previous Gov and so were not illegal immigrants.

Whether or not you like the rules used to determine the status of irregular migrants, those are the facts, and those are the words used.

A big hand for…
Comical Ali ladies and gentlemen.:joy:

They are apparentlly entering our country legally now.
:joy::joy:

Anyhoo must fly, I’m parked in an ‘irregular’ place doing a bit of ‘irregular’ parking dont ya know.
:joy:

And here we have it.

There is a problem with irregular and illegal migration. Yes.
Calling everything by the same simple name makes it impossible to have a sensible discussion.

Simple terms, and simple solutions, are offered to complex problems.

Good illustration @robroy
If you are on double yellows are you illegal?
Or are you delivering?
Or broken down?

Yep brainwashed.

You have this inability to stray from the official line and naively believe anything you are told by official sources.

Keep up the pretence that these illegal migrants are escaping war, persecution and untold horrors. The rest of us know they are scrounging economic migrants coming here illegally and for a free ride because we are a soft touch. The fact they deliberately destroy all documentation before arriving in Kent is a clue.

Some are. Some aren’t.

Some are. Some aren’t.

Some do. Some don’t.

It is not the simple problem painted by the likes of Farage etc.
If you naively believe in the simple solutions offered by him, why do you think those simple steps have not been used by the last or any other Gov in the past?
There would be many votes for any party that gave the simple quick fix offered by Farage. Do you think that Patel and Braverman would shrink away from any steps that would actually work?

Just as with Brexit, Farage is pointing and an area where there is a problem and offering a simple solution. Again it is a false hope, as complex problems need complex solutions, not the simple one liners offered by those who know their plans will never be actioned and so do not need to be realistic.

Nah mate ‘illegal’ and ‘legal’ are adjectives that are ‘absolute’.

You can not be nearly legal, half legal, partly legal or anything else ‘legal’ or whatever else conveniently suits your pc agenda at the time.
If you aint legal you are illegal…end of.
So are they entering the country legally through the proper channels?
No.
They are illegal.

The phrase ‘Irregular Immigrants’ is just another lefty euphamistic smokescreen to make things look acceptable, and only used by gullible servile people like yourself.

More irony btw…YOU of all people labelling someone ‘naive’.
Comedy gold.:joy:

Btw if ‘Some are some aren’t’
Why not put your money where your gob is and open up your spare room to a couple of the ‘Some aren’ts’ as you like defending them being here.

You said yourself there is a housing shortage.
As I’ve said a couple of genuine good people in my home town have opened their homes to women and kids from Ukraine…genuine refugees, women and kids, not illegal irregular average age 23 economic fortune seekers.

You could be best mates with Tariq and Ali and hang out together…‘on da street dude’…:sunglasses:
Dump yer M&S cardigan and beige slacks for a pair of trackies a hoodie and a baseball cap, and spend your days together on the Play station whilst listening to a bit of Hip Hop.

Until they assessed it is not known whether the entry was legal or illegal.
That is why it is described as irregular.

For many genuine asylum seekers there is no regular means they can enter the country. There is no assessment office on Calais beach, so they enter irregularly,
After they are assessed some will be offered asylum and some will be deported.
It is true that some are legal and some are illegal, until assessed we do not know which.

Just like criminal trials innocent/guilty and legal/illegal are the options, but until assessed or tried in a court we do not know which it is.

Until then, we do know that the entry was irregular but not whether it was legal or illegal.

Oh ffs man give it a rest will ya🙄
As I have said before you are becoming a caricature of yourself.

You can embroider it all up as much as you like with narrative and pc bullcrap. …and to how you are told to do so.

Everybody else sees them for what they really are, freeloading chancers, parasites landing here Illegally, pretending to be refugees, for the sole purpose of reaping economic, social and monetary benefits, from an over generous state,…after leaving a not so generous one.

Get real for once in your existence man.