A centralised regime issuing directives to subservient states on a collectivised basis.
Callaghan actually stated that his reason for being in it, against the anti EU Labour majority, was because it is beneficial to Socialism.
Just like the USA then.
I really think it has ceased to be a Right v Left thing in politics.
It is virtually a Woke v The Anti Woke now (or is that maybe the same thing on reflection.
)
Most right minded people, or call them ‘Far Right’ if you feel the need, as it seems to be the fashionable term these days, for those who see through the general official narrative, all the b/s, and ‘rebel’ against it in varying degrees.
My biggest question is why do these people go into politics at all, if they fail to see…(or in fact in this case actually and conciously refuse to see) the general mood of the people they are supposed to represent?
Instead they carry on regardless as if the same people are thinking what these people virtually tell them to think, as opposed to actual reality.
Some politicians go into politics because they believe in something or other.
Because they want to get what they believe in done.
Some will be honest about what they want to achieve, be honest about downsides as well as upsides, and will hope that enough agree with their objectives and vote for them.
Some other politicians want to get power, and will say anything to get votes.
Often they will say contradictory things to different audiences.
They will say whatever the voters want to hear.
Yep, but on a ratio of something like …at a guess of 90% to 10% in favour of the latter I would say…from what I have seen in the past.
Needless to say you are going to refute that one as well.
And pleeease no usual anti Tory political party point scoring,.I’m referring to right across the board.
So Starmer is in Budapest in a meeting of other Euro countries, asking for assistance with the illegal immigrant fiasco…
Apparentlly he’s going to ‘smash the gangs’ 
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Fat chance, people better than him have been trying to smash the same gangs whilst selling drugs for decades, and if he flukes ‘smashing’ one of em,.another will just pop up.
He reckons he cant solve the problem on his own…no sh.
I bet they are all laughing behind his back.
Firstly France aint interested as the fact they all want to come to the UK from there, solves THEIR problem.
They prefer all inclusive stays in the UK over a tent in some sh hole in France apparentlly…can’t think why.
Other countries are shutting, and/or protecting their borders…unlike us, even looking at places like Rwandah…(the irony eh?..the system the UK has already funded for them in terms of doing the groundwork, but will get no benefit…)
Apparently having a deterrent was a ridiculous and derisory idea during the election campaign.
Still no actual mention or reference to actually ‘Stopping the boats’ though I notice, all about smashing the gangs b/s.
I bet they all can not believe how stupid this govt…and country is, it is obvious as the nose on your face…
Stop the incentive, solve the problem, simple as that…and the bonus is the gangs are redundant,.and back to hawking H & Coke.
Maybe somebody will point this out to him.
“Some other politicians want to get power, and will say anything to get votes.
Often they will say contradictory things to different audiences.
They will say whatever the voters want to hear.”
Labour Party pre election manifesto to a tee.
In Franglais world, the population was 65 million and only 17.4 million people wanted brexit. LOL 
In reality, there are millions of people who can’t vote for a very good reason - they are children or adolescents.
Then you have the people who haven’t got themselves in a situation to get themselves on the register.
Then you have the people that could have voted that simply didn’t.
Even if you believe the flawed logic, it is easily countered simply by the fact that even less people got themselves to a voting booth to vote remain. By Franglais logic, only 16.1 million people wanted to remain, so entirely self-defeating.
Yeah…but was it a REAL Hotel?
Apparentlly if they take the cordon bleu menu off, and the Thurs night dinner dances off the schedule, these young men…(sorry poor families in plight) aint living in a 4 star hotel…
Do keep up, man Franglais did almost a dissertation explaining all this,… and the hotel ‘star system’ to us.
Dont forget the mini bar or use of the sauna.
Vast majority of the right wing stuff I read or heard over the last few months made reference to it being more one sided than was being reported elsewhere.
When asked in Parliament how the Govt could justify cutting back on and virtually penalizing the farmers who essentially keep us all fed, whilst at the same time spending 8 million per day…(just digest that for a minute btw, 8 MILLION per DAY!, ) on illegal scumbags (my words not theirs) and would they review the policies…
The answer was (along the lines of)…They already have in the last budget.
Out of touch shower of sh…still, not as bad as the Tories though apparentlly.
(Well… none of them had a drink and a vol au vent after work when they were not meany to anyhoo.)
What? Labour are cutting back on farm subsidies?
Poor farmers!
robroy
unlike haulage firms, they get govt subsidies when times are difficult (ahh bless) despite always pleading poverty,in fact some of the poor souls are down to their last million, and can only afford ONE BMW. 
Well yeah I get that tbh…poor farmers, I aint naive enough to know they always plead poverty, but my point is still a valid one.
Also ‘poor pensioners’…not SO poor freeloading scumbag criminals though posing as asylum seekers.
I know where I would prefer the money to go, subsidise our food, meat, fairy production etc, or throw it down a drain in epic proportions.
But as ever you will blindly continue to defend what most people see as the infefensible…because it is Labour, and their official policies.
All that wind, pi55 slaver and pearl clutching a few years ago from you about Boris and his glass of Merlot after work still makes me laugh today, but nothing about the obscene amount of money wasted by this govt…albeit a continuationof the last one,.which neither justifies it or excuses it.
There’s clearly a far more Stalinist type agenda behind the farming issue.Control of food supply and limiting food supply is an essential part of control of the population.Net zero is the energy supply part of that scam.
He’s going to smash trafficking of illegal immigrants by declaring them all legal and inviting them in.With all the usual attractive perks on arrival.Which made the channel crossing by dhingy worth drowning for.
Standing on a false manifesto and infiltration of opposing parties is basically electoral fraud
Btw…love the way you concentrate on deriding my post, and the post subject, but make no comnent whatsoever on the extravagance of the illegal immigrant situation.
Expected nothing else from you if I’m honest.
Your post commented on the cuts to farm subsidies.
I addressed that.
You then mentioned immigration. You always mention immigration.
Anyone would think that you believe the politicians who tell you that if we did not have those migrants arriving on small boats everything would be great?
One easy fix and all will be wonderful.
The same politicians who told you that as soon as we left the EU everything would be great.
One easy fix and all would be wonderful.