Similarities there with the PM, Gaylord Alli, housing the PM, funding the Labour party to the tune of millions, furnishing the PM’s wife with gifts and any “other” services rendered to the PM. A tax on the twisted, turncoat lefties, seems fair to me.
There is nothing wrong with 2 tier accepting all those donations and free gifts because it was within the rules - well according to Franglais anyway.
Lots of people like The Kray Twins as well, I never bought into that BS either
No, I’m not lefty-liberal, and I’m most certainly not a pacifist. I consider myself to be right-wing, but not in the ranty, hateful way that followers of Mr Lennon seem to think is the only way to hold right-wing views.
I appreciate that we need laws that all of us should follow, and that most definitely applies to some A-hole thug who lies, cheats, cons people and disgracefully targets a schoolkid to further his own self-centred agenda.
So you’re only interested in what you see and hear and don’t want independent verification? My God! We are never going to agree. This is how the flat-earthers think, “say what you see”.
He’s a scumbag criminal. Anyone who wants to believe in the words of a scumbag criminal is obviously not someone I have the time of day for. The comments on the YT vid of “his” march confirm that a hundred times over.
He, or one of his financial supporters, had him represented in court by someone who has been a (formerly a QC now a) KC for 24 years, who is in her own right also a Judge since 1997 (more precisely a Recorder, which is similar to a Circuit Judge), she’s been practicing criminal law since 1981. If she claimed there had been any kind of unfairness, I’d listen to her opinion.
All she could say was that it was his “firmly held beliefs” that had landed him in court (again). Not a single thing about any conspiracy, or lies, or “facts presented negatively” - which it would have been entirely her speciality to knock out of the park.
The day I watch GBN would also be the day I buy a copy of Socialist Worker, and I don’t get my news from MSN either.
Yes, I believe it is true that that gathering was remarkably mixed
For as long as a gathering like that is linked to a scumbag like TR/SYL, it is a manageable situation
Listing someone’s previous and current criminal convictions is just “reporting”, not “character assassination”. Whatever validity could have been taken from the weekend’s collective expression of opinion is more than negated by TR/SYL’s criminal track record: His “character” is probably, more than anything, the one thing that prevents any forward movement in the desires of those who find something likeable in him and his ideas - He’s his own worst enemy.
Ffs Franglais your first few words, I actually thought we were making progress…thought you had actually removed your blinkers,.seen the light and any other appropriate analogy you can think of.
…a bit of common ground no less on a mutual realisation and concern of a grossly negatively loaded situation towards our country…‘Hallellujah at last’ was my initial reaction.
But back doen to earth, then came the obligatory and inevitable caveat, the ‘get out clause’ if you will.
The embarrasinglly displayed bile towards someone you hate (as usual) the implication that TR/YL with his alleged status of illegal immigrant, is of the same status as those foreign scumbags infesting our country under false pretences…(how’s that btw, for a relavant display of hatred of people, but this time in comparison to your ways, who actually have a bearing on my life? )
So TR/YL…
Convicted ?..definitely
Thug? Maybe.
Fraudster…see above.
But all 3 conclusions brought about by people just like you, but in higher status occupationd…which in my book always hold it open to doubt and ambiguity.
So you don’t see anything thuggish about making a 15 year old schoolchild the target of vitriol? Doesn’t matter where the kid came from, he was a child, being attacked online by an adult male. “What a scummy man…” as Arctic Monkeys sang.
These “higher status people”? The UK courts? You believe our UK legal system is “always open to doubt and ambiguity”? Always? What? Even when they send child abusers to jail?
No, our UK courts don’t always get it right, but we’re not talking here about an Andrew Malkinson travesty of justice, or The Post Office Scandal, we’re talking about a certified criminal agitator who attempts to defy our legal system at every turn.
I’m also not convinced that supporting TR/SYL’s agenda isn’t “promotion of extremism”
As I said…we will never agree.
But I still find your interpretation of some of my points a bit ‘taking it in a way to fit your argument’ rather than what I actually meant.
Whether or not that is intentional, or just a misunderstanding scenario, is known only to you.
Just to clarify, I aint a ‘fan’ of the Krays no more than I am a ‘fan’ of TR.
One I have read a lot about out of shear interest and curiousity, (fully aware that all versions of the same story are loaded and biased in different ways)
The other, who I agree with a lot of his points, but am under no illusions that he aint all he says he is…in fact in the same context as the Kray stories.
I think the fact in the ways the British Establishment (who famously and arrogantlly expect ‘kowtowment’ from us of whom they see as ‘The Plebs’ ) deal with and constantly watch Robinson, are an illustration of how serious they do actually take him, despite the official dismissive line on him, and irrespective of whether or not they see it as a ‘manageable situation’ …
As I said concluded on ‘What I see’…but at the same time absolutely certain the world is spherical. 
And here we go again, seeing my points as you want to see them, rather than in the context of how I meant them.
Unlike yourself, I have seen the offending video in question about this perceived (deliberately or otherwise) poor little ‘15 year old schoolboy’ as you describe him.
A model schoolboy, an angel in fact, who never did anything wrong, let alone gave out regular stabbing threats, or injured a young girl in class who had an athletical carreer ahead of her (but who was virtually condemned for his actions by all those who knew him…not just including, but especially his teachers, who had all suffered financially and occupation wise for daring to speak out against him publiclly.
I have seen and listened to both sides avidly, of the story in fact, and I have decided which side I believe.
Tbh …I think the derisory agenda loaded ott opinion of one schoolkid pouring a bottle of water over another in a playground described as wait for it…
…‘waterboarding’ ffs kinda sealed the deal for me on that one.
All b/s?..who knows.
But I’m sticking to my own interpretation of it, as I am sure you are.
I felt more sorry for the other offending ‘15 year old schoolchild’ who was threatened with machete attacks and the r4pe of his family…
(how quintessentially British btw I must say 
) if I felt sorry for anyone.
I aint even going to dignify the question with an answer that you put to me about child abusers btw…apples with oranges.
So I’m promoting extremism now am I ?
C’mon man, you are better than that, I would have expected that sort of b/s from the likes of Franglais but not you.
Either way, I hope Starmer does not get wind of it, or I’ll be in the next cell to Karen and Tracey off of Facebook.
Hey!..I might even get to meet my ‘hero’ Tommy Robinson in fact.
No and No.
I don’t think it is good for any politician to take any gifts and freebies from anyone.
I have already said (maybe you missed it) that IMHO all political parties should be state funded. MPs should be better paid, and forbidden to take monies elsewhere.
Starmer’s freebies are not legal because I or anyone else says so.
They are legal because they are not prohibited by law.
Alleged be buggered he admitted guilt.
Y-L later asked US buddies to help him seek asylum…but failed.
I get it how many more kin times man?
I just don’t particularly care.
I’ll leave the act of gross concern with trivialities, non relavant issues, and stuff that has no direct effect on my life to you.
You are so good at it enough for the both of us after all .
You pressed me to answer one of your earlier questions.
You don’y have to of course, but maybe you would like to tell us now what you think of those individuals and businesses that lost out when Y-L bankrupted the other year, just after he lost £100,000 on gambling?
Are you devoid of the power of comprehension?
C’mon you must be winding me up here surely…
Ok I’ll humour you if I must.
It has no bearing on my life.
It is irrelavent to me.
It is for the concern of those directly involved, not me…or in fact you.
I aint a spokesman nor an apologist for T kin R.
I do not get all pre menstrual about stuff that does not concern me or mine.
Ok?
I have been the victim of ‘bankrupts’ who tried to take the proverbial out of me on a smaller scale when I was in business myself.
I dealt with it in my own way and got it sorted.
I did not ask the likes of you or in fact Tommy Robinson to give it any concern whatsoever, and I am sure he aint interested in either mine or your opinion.
And that Jeremy is my Final Answer.
Jeez H kin Christ.
“a new way has been found to kill children”
https://www.aa.com.tr/en/world/un-agencies-slam-israeli-move-to-ban-unrwa/3378082
Nobody in their right mind would not condem this action.
But at the same time I equally condemn the mindless murders carried out on young people by the political powers of Palestine, which kicked off this latest cluster ■■■■ of events out there.
I do not pretend to know about ME politics, but some would say to those in this country who display support for Palestine, that it was all brought upon themselves by those murders.
I would suspect by your extreme almost rabid left wing views, that you have a Palestine flag flying somewhere yourself in fact.
You’ve watched his self-made video and believed what he said.
Here’s what Wikipedia (public and open to challenges) says on TRs ever-increasingly long page
On Facebook, Robinson subsequently posted a screenshot of a message from a mother saying her daughter had been bullied and he accused the refugee of being the bully. However, the mother responded on Robinson’s Facebook page informing him this was false.[206] Robinson also made a false allegation using a photo stolen from a news article on a teenage cancer patient.[207]
Ok, as we have established thus…
There are 2 or more sides or versions to every story.
Where FB is involved anything and everything is unreliable to say the least.
(As you have often stated or implied yourself.)
People can be made to say or do anything if threatened, under duress, or where monetary payment is involved.
A lot of info from authoriative bodies is mostly, (or at least partly) b/s what they want us to believe, and repeat.
Some people are astute, some are gullible and servile, each party decides what they think is right, and decide which category the opposing party is in, …but ironically they both think they are in the same one…that they favour
Not everybody is what they say there are.
And finally each individual has to choose what and who they believe.
So we are back to square one where we should just agree to differ.
True enough.
And some choose to ignore the many honest people, and believe instead those who make money from peddling lies, repeatedly commit acts of violence, fraud, gamble many thousands of pounds before going bankrupt, and ignore the UK court system.
I guess some are better judges than others.
True enough
On the other hand, others just readily repeat what they are told to believe, from an authoriative body,… which in reality is usually just an official narrative with a hidden agenda,.and seen as total obvious b/s to anyone who aint totally brainwashed.
Those who do this are usually so naive and servile that they actually believe it to be true, and are totally oblivious to how ridiculous they sound and look when they regurtitate it like parrots.
But I guess some are just better judges than others…as you said.
Are we talking TR or Piers Morgan or one of the myriad of “A” listers who jumped on the waterboarding bandwagon here?
Latest news…
That piece of sh who murdered those little girls at Southport, has had further charges brought against him.
Of the Terrorism variety !
What they are allowed to ‘share with the media’ so far as they put it, is he was found to be making Ricin, and an Al Qaeda terror manual of military tactics was found…so far.
Wow…shock horror eh? (not)
Who would have thought it eh?
I cant wait to hear what religion he is following…my bet is on Scottish Presbyterian. …joking btw.
Axel Rudakubana, 18, will appear at Westminster Magistrates’ Court by videolink on Wednesday.
I’m just sticking to TR, that proven liar who has dominated the thread.
But in fairness the proof of his lies is only from an authoritative body in the form of a UK court, so its just an official narrative with a hidden agenda, and I can’t see the obvious BS, so I guess I sound naive and servile, and am oblivious to how ridiculous I sound.
WTF must I have been thinking… ?
Thank God there are un-brainwashed people around to counteract that.