Well yeah.
At least you would get a lot more volunteers.
In fact I wondered where we were going wrong.
One of the Just Stop Oil lot got two years in prison today, for throwing soup at a painting that was protected behind glass and not damaged
Both the morons who threw soup at the painting were sent down 
Then this happens 
prison not much of a deterrent to some people it seems
Two years for doing possibly £10,000 damage to a picture frame?
From the link: “Raj Chada, defending Holland, said the women “did check” the painting was protected by a glass cover before throwing the soup.”
Lots of publicity for a stunt that did (relatively) little harm and hurt no-one.
It does seem an excessive sentence I agree. Perhaps though the whole idea is to make a point, a bit like jailing “far right” suburban housewives is? It’s not the act itself which is problematic, it’s the target I suggest that is. What can possibly be gained by this act? What can be gained by damaging Stonehenge? Publicity obviously, but I reckon it generates far more negative publicity and hatred of their cause than it does positive publicity.
What irritates me about it all is the sheer hypocrisy of those involved; they wear their Nike trainers and film their sabotage on their I phones after presumably travelling to these sites in their cars and then proceed to pontificate about the evils of fossil fuels.
After two years in The Scrubs they’ll probably be thankful of any petroleum products that they could get their hands on.
Personally I’d have given Phoebe Plummer an extra 12 months just for her apparent pomposity 
David Cameron and wife Samantha Cameron both got clothes from donor funds and didn’t declare them. This was while David was leader of the opposition and when prime minister. 
He was made a lord, absolutely disgraceful.
If you’re talking about that stupid bint Bernadette, aka Bernie, Spofforth, who was defended by people at the Ref UK conference, she wasn’t jailed, not even charged. She got an NFA
Your Babel Fish is still malfunctioning, we here on Planet Earth can make no sense of your trans-dimensional warbling.
Maybe so but David Cameron also did not totally lambast the last PM/govt for doing the same thing, and telling us pre election that his govt were not that type …(or words to that effect) in a display of shear hypocrisy.
Remember Boris’s wallpaper and HIS photographer?
Another point… Boris and Cameron was the actual PM not the deputy…
Just to redress the balance to my Tory hating ‘‘friend’’ (term ‘friend’ used extremely loosely btw 
) it seems it aint only the Tories leaving the sinking ship, Labour have them too.
Rosie Duffield accused Sir Keir Starmer of lacking ‘political instincts’ and displaying ‘sleaze, nepotism and apparent avarice’.
Seems bizarrely that at least one of them live up to their ‘Right Honourable’ title after all then.
I could kinda get in to this gloating thing ya know.
Just remembered that was who I was on about a couple of weeks ago.
She had the integrity to vote against Starmer’s disgraceful ‘pensioner robbing’ stunt, instead of just abstaining (and be seen to go against him ) like the rest of his spineless crew.
Great so I’ll await to see a big Confederate States flag behind the rostrum at this year’s ‘Labour’ Party Conference and an audience demographic that appreciates it.
While singing the Bolshevik Red Flag is banned in honour of our Korean War casualties.
Re Rosie Duffield, Labour “had it in for her” over her (anti) transgender stance, so her leaving isn’t that much of a surprise.
Yep.
I think she said along the lines of… ‘If you aint got a cervix, you aint a woman’.
She also said Transexual ‘women’ should not be allowed in female changing rooms, womens prisons etc.
Now I don’t have a lot of thought about transexuals, they aint really on my radar tbh, I also have absolutely nothing against them, …In fact I do have a lot of sympathy for them, ok it’s far too easy to deride them, but it must be bloody awful to look like a bloke, walk and talk like a bloke, look something like I do, but to genuinely 100% feel like a woman.
That said on the other hand her first statement is 100% irrefutably accurate.
You are either born male or female.
Now I know it does not fit in with lefty PC views, but she should be 100% entitled to her views without being ostracised by her party…but we all know what said party thinks of free speech.
I also have sympathy with her other points.
Admittedlly me personally, I would not (rightly or wrongly) feel comfortable with a TS sharing say a communal changing room, or similar, to my wife and/or daughters,… but I do tend to be a bit over protective towards them, and I make no apology for that.
So I suppose that said, with the lib lefty/Labour bed wetters, I as well as her will be labelled a ‘Transphobe’ (as well as my racist and religious bigot labels so far:grinning:…oh yeah and possiblly a ‘far right’ )
Cos we all know how they lurrrve their labels when someone has the nous to disagree with them.
Sounds like you know more about that than me. Perhaps it wasn’t declared or something, I honestly couldn’t tell you.
If that is your narrative, fair enough, I just posted a link to an article because it seemed relevant to the discussion.
Just heard it on the news at the time mate, that’s all.
Didn’t care one way or another tbh, I was just pointing out that Labour was squealing and protesting about it at the time very piously…then they go and do something similar themselves (and worse) later on, after telling us they ‘weren’t that type of party’.
Smacks of shear hypocricy.
But…what was it?..oh yeah.
.‘They aint as bad as the Tories’
Nobody listens to me on here.
No ‘Nige’ sure as hell would not be different, as I have said on here countless times…That in terms of ‘In it for what they can get out of it’’ …they are ALL the same…cross parties.
Just because I support ‘Nige’ in a lot of what he says and does, (and I have no qualms in saying I voted for his party last election) , it does not mean I am naive enough to think he is any different to the rest in those terms, nor am I some sort of self appointed Trucknet apologist for him.
(Just to add I know you weren’t ‘having a pop’ and I get the tongue in cheek remark.)
I’m maybe wrongly assuming you are also a Labour man…so can you (and/or any other Labour supporters on here) maybe answer this?
I am a British white working class bloke.
I have worked since the age of 16.
I am patriotic towards my country
I come from a traditional working class family, who have been staunch Labour supporters since long before I was born. My Granda was a miner and a strong Trade Unionist.
I also believe in trade unions, and I feel that workers rights and fairness are paramount.
I have also voted Labour a couple of times in the past.
So I have basically just described the type of person that the original old Labour Party was formed by and for.
Maybe a stereotype Labour fan?
So question is, in your opinion why am I (and many like me) , saying they would not vote for the present generation Labour Party if we were paid to do so?