In a drivers waiting room the other day (listening to the stories) when Poa cropped up. One driver said when you book Poa it pushes the WTD time back. Example start 4am, I assumed you would book POA at 10am to cover the WTD, other driver said if you booked 1.30hr Poa you wouldnt need to start to book any rest till 11.30am?
Ive just changed job so previously never needed to book any poa.
Scouse67:
In a drivers waiting room the other day (listening to the stories) when Poa cropped up. One driver said when you book Poa it pushes the WTD time back. Example start 4am, I assumed you would book POA at 10am to cover the WTD, other driver said if you booked 1.30hr Poa you wouldnt need to start to book any rest till 11.30am?Ive just changed job so previously never needed to book any poa.
POA doesn’t count as working time, so if you started at 04:00 and booked POA from say 06:00 to 07:30 you would need to have a 15 minute break no later than 11:30, or a 45 minute break when you completed 4½ hours driving, whichever comes first.
Scouse67:
Example start 4am, I assumed you would book POA at 10am to cover the WTD, other driver said if you booked 1.30hr Poa you wouldnt need to start to book any rest till 11.30am?
I don’t know why you think you would book POA at 10:00, I assume you mean break not POA.
Yeah sorry meant rest break at 10am not poa
Scouse67:
Yeah sorry meant rest break at 10am not poa
Don’t bother with poa just put it on break otherwise you’ll get in a mess.
bald bloke:
Don’t bother with poa just put it on break otherwise you’ll get in a mess.
+1
In most cases that is the easiest option … unless your contract states you do not get paid for recorded breaks
So in the above example, the 6 hour wtd isn’t reset at 7:30 (as poa was longer than the minimum break period of 15 mins)?
Nezza:
So in the above example, the 6 hour wtd isn’t reset at 7:30 (as poa was longer than the minimum break period of 15 mins)?
It doesn’t matter how long the POA is it doesn’t count as working time, so in the example above the end of the 6 hour period is put back to 11:30 because of the 1½ hours POA.
Be aware though that the digital tachograph does wrongly count POA as break and will reset the driving time on the display if the total POA is 45 minutes or more.
Ahhh, that explains it!
Also them that say don’t bother with poa put it on break just watch cause you’ll shove it on break then will have to have another 45 rather than half hour later …as Tacho says poa is not work but still counts as duty time
nick2008:
Also them that say don’t bother with poa put it on break just watch cause you’ll shove it on break then will have to have another 45 rather than half hour later …as Tacho says poa is not work but still counts as duty time
Possibly another 15 mins more later - yes?
Will have to have a word and make sure that if I do stick it on break they don’t deduct more than the usual 45, thanks all for the replies.