Petrol Tankers - How Dangerous?

Having only just done the tanker part of ADR I got the impression it concentrated quite heavily on tip over and traffic accidents involving tankers.

Certainly more so than the actual transfer of the contents. Not saying that isn’t dangerous but it does tend to be very well controlled, written rules etc etc

You get 15,000 lites of fuel or even just milk swashing round inside a tanker then negotiate roundabouts, junctions and disck head car drivers and you got a nightmare on your hands

iDriver:
I guess it is all about perspective really… I always muse about the signs on the back of tankers such as milk tankers that says “Non Hazardous”… Now thats just as may be when there is a pint of the stuff in one of those bloody stupid carton things but when they put several thousand gallons of it in a tanker its still going to sting when it hits you :unamused:

iDriver

Imagine how stupid you’d look carrying a pint of milk without a carton… :laughing:

shep532:
Having only just done the tanker part of ADR I got the impression it concentrated quite heavily on tip over and traffic accidents involving tankers.

Certainly more so than the actual transfer of the contents. Not saying that isn’t dangerous but it does tend to be very well controlled, written rules etc etc

You get 15,000 lites of fuel or even just milk swashing round inside a tanker then negotiate roundabouts, junctions and disck head car drivers and you got a nightmare on your hands

The ADR will teach you nothing about driving tankers, it only ever mentions parking :stuck_out_tongue:

Imagine how stupid you’d look carrying a pint of milk without a carton…

you could always use a bottle, or perhaps you are too young :smiley:

del949:

Imagine how stupid you’d look carrying a pint of milk without a carton…

you could always use a bottle, or perhaps you are too young :smiley:

Milk in a bottle? How quaint :laughing: I remember the race to get the ones without bird ■■■ on them from the crate outside the canteen at school :laughing: :laughing:

youtube.com/watch?v=nD9Jr5VdcEE

Fuel tanker explosion. Merc rigid with a Shell tank on the back.

good sound track… nickleback?

I drove fuel tankers in western canada for many years and believe me they are very dangerous…not only in road traffic collisions but general delivery at service stations idiots throwing lighted cigaretes on the ground etc etc…the trucks I drove were super b tankers hauling up to 60000 litres of petrol about fifty if the load was diesel.There are often drivers killed on one occasion a rig from my company clipped a broken down unit an accident that our driver would have probably walked away from if he was hauling another product the unit loaded with marked diesel exploded the fire department didnt even know what company the rig belonged to…everything was destroyed.I drove these units in winter conditions in the rocky mountains which again was quite dangerous.

They’re not dangerous if you do the job properly,and if hauling the stuff through the Rockies makes it iffy for you ,you’re in the wrong job.
Off to Thunder Bay in the morning with a tank full of Oxygen,now that stuff is volatile,but I’m looking forward to the drive,fantastic scenery when you live in the Prairies.

iDriver:
I guess it is all about perspective really… I always muse about the signs on the back of tankers such as milk tankers that says “Non Hazardous”…

You wouldn’t see that on a milk tanker, as milk is hazardous. That’s why it has the marine pollutant markers.

8wheels:
Genuine question

How dangerous a job is it then? Is is mega dangerous and everyone is so careful that there are never accidents or just exaggerated. The only big incident involving a tanker I can think of was when that one full of Hydrogen Peroxide (IIRC) blew it’s self to pieces on the M3? a few years back.

PS. What caused the Buncefield bonfire, was that tanker related?

Very dangerous when empty " the vacuum " :laughing: FLOUR is mental! BOOM :grimacing: :grimacing:

Remember when that tanker crashed at Spaghetti Junction and melted the concrete? 1990 I think.

8wheels:
Genuine question

How dangerous a job is it then? Is is mega dangerous and everyone is so careful that there are never accidents or just exaggerated. The only big incident involving a tanker I can think of was when that one full of Hydrogen Peroxide (IIRC) blew it’s self to pieces on the M3? a few years back.

PS. What caused the Buncefield bonfire, was that tanker related?

When i was young Tanker driver were smoking when driving,snipping Cigarets out of the Window,spraying sparks the Tank along.They also did other stupid Things,like Drinking,speeding,over rolling the Lorry and more,just like every other.
Dont say Fuel is not dangerous.But its Freight.Its not having 50 People judging your Driving.
I know a few Driver who,…No,actually not. Non i know passed away during an Accident (maybe just lucky)

Safe enough when nothing goes wrong…

I remember the fuel tanker that overturned and blew up in Sunderland mid 90’s, I was on the back of my trailer and about a mile or so away from the incident, I felt the heat wave and blast and saw the huge fireball rise, we thought it was a bomb at the time. Later when I worked for the Fire Service I saw pictures of the incident, no body was injured never mind killed but purely through luck more than anything, very little damage too. Anyone remember the one that went up in a small village a few years before that, it had a different outcome. All in all though there have been few disasters considering the amount of fuel moving around the country every day so has to be considered a lot safer than expected.

Not any more dangerous than any other load when the driver behind the wheel drives properly on the road and sticks to the safe systems of work when loading/discharging.

Ask your self this, how much fuel is moved about daily/weekly/monthly/annually on our roads and then ask what percentage is lost through fire/spillage/ evaporation in the event of an accident. i think you’ll find it doesn’t even get a mention anywhere except in the sad event of a major accident involving loss of life or property.

Its a job i’ve done and never once did i feel under any pressure or stress because of the product in the tank behind me/

grousebeater

It would seem that it’s not a dangerous job then if done properly, this is what I thought. However the fuel in North America is obviously much worse as when they haul it on ice road truckers it could combust at any time :unamused: :laughing:

It is not dangerouse done right ,they wuold not let them on the road if it were DHO

Most petrol tanker drivers who smoked, used a pipe, as it was allowed in the refineries at that time, even the smoke huts in Fawley, Lindsay Oil Refinery & others were only bus shelters :laughing:

Posted this on another thread but seems relevant to this one also, I was at a haulage yard local to me an I noticed some cylinders due to be loaded for France in a stillage, they were Silane gas -28 degrees C auto ignition temperature and spontaneously flammable in air, so basically open the tap and you have a 200 bar flame thrower.