peirre:
The only time I use it is at the start of my shift when I put my card in, stick it on for 10mins and start doing my checks to signify that they are being done
Surely that’s other work?
Conor:
adam277:
It’s great when you want to rake in the hours.
Without it people wouldnt be able to do 60+ hours a week.Which is precisely the reason I DON’T use it. 60hrs even including breaks is unacceptable in the 21st Century, even 48hrs most of the population would deem to be ridiculous.
If PoA didn’t exist then when the WTD came in we’d have had the 20%+ wage rises that companies were bandying around in the run up to the WTD introduction before the PoA was negotiated with the government by the unions. So you’d have the same wage working 48hrs that you did for working 60hrs. For those of us who think the wages are crap for the hours we work and the hours we work are ridiculous you can thank the FTA, the RHA, URTU and the rest of the haulage associations and unions for the existence of the PoA.
When wtd is a reality (and our hours are in line with Century 21) and not some ■■■■ charade to make it look on paper that we work reasonable hours, then and only then will I use poa.
Thing is that will never happen, and if it did there would be no point in using POA anyhow…work out what I mean for yourselves.
I know POA gets a bad name because companies start specifying to register a certain amount of it, but there are occasions where a driver might appreciate POA, such as:
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Money grabbing drivers who want a sixth day overtime shift
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If you have a delay getting loaded in the morning, putting it on POA doesn’t hurt because it gives you a bit more leeway once you get on the road.
Noremac:
I know POA gets a bad name because companies start specifying to register a certain amount of it, but there are occasions where a driver might appreciate POA, such as:
Money grabbing drivers who want a sixth day overtime shift
If you have a delay getting loaded in the morning, putting it on POA doesn’t hurt because it gives you a bit more leeway once you get on the road.
Leeway to do what?
Even more hours than what you’re allowed to already?
Nah I’ll just stick with cross hammers and break modes thanks.
One of the reasons that drivers work so many hours for low pay is because they work so many hours.
For many drivers, all that matters is the ‘take-home pay’. There have been loads of threads about this, but so long as some continue to moan about being restricted to 48/60 hours or whatever, there will be no improvement.
Santa:
One of the reasons that drivers work so many hours for low pay is because they work so many hours.For many drivers, all that matters is the ‘take-home pay’. There have been loads of threads about this, but so long as some continue to moan about being restricted to 48/60 hours or whatever, there will be no improvement.
Got it in one , Drivers worst enemy is not DVSA but them selfs
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Conor:
adam277:
It’s great when you want to rake in the hours.
Without it people wouldnt be able to do 60+ hours a week.Which is precisely the reason I DON’T use it. 60hrs even including breaks is unacceptable in the 21st Century, even 48hrs most of the population would deem to be ridiculous.
If PoA didn’t exist then when the WTD came in we’d have had the 20%+ wage rises that companies were bandying around in the run up to the WTD introduction before the PoA was negotiated with the government by the unions. So you’d have the same wage working 48hrs that you did for working 60hrs. For those of us who think the wages are crap for the hours we work and the hours we work are ridiculous you can thank the FTA, the RHA, URTU and the rest of the haulage associations and unions for the existence of the PoA.
True but it’s here and at some firms it can work out well for you. Especially when your paid to sit on your ■■■ waiting.
Noremac:
I know POA gets a bad name because companies start specifying to register a certain amount of it, but there are occasions where a driver might appreciate POA, such as:
Money grabbing drivers who want a sixth day overtime shift
If you have a delay getting loaded in the morning, putting it on POA doesn’t hurt because it gives you a bit more leeway once you get on the road.
I always use POA when waiting for a load at start of shift because it helps on the 6hr rule. If you sat waiting 3hrs for your load and you got it on other work you can only work 3hrs without a break.
elsa Lad:
Noremac:
I know POA gets a bad name because companies start specifying to register a certain amount of it, but there are occasions where a driver might appreciate POA, such as:
Money grabbing drivers who want a sixth day overtime shift
If you have a delay getting loaded in the morning, putting it on POA doesn’t hurt because it gives you a bit more leeway once you get on the road.
I always use POA when waiting for a load at start of shift because it helps on the 6hr rule. If you sat waiting 3hrs for your load and you got it on other work you can only work 3hrs without a break.
The same as putting it on rest then??
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