albion1971:
Or the ones that use hazard warning lights to park illegally or during unloading a vehicle.
Guilty conscience lights. 
Wardaddy:
albion1971:
Or the ones that use hazard warning lights to park illegally or during unloading a vehicle.Guilty conscience lights.
yeah, its funny how they think using hazards some how makes it more acceptable to stop on double or single yellow lines!
Saw one just earlier, Range Rover sport, half on and half off the pavement with hazards on outside a florists.
Evolved:
those who decide to turn off⌠brake first⌠then indicateâŚ
Totally agree. Mirror, signal, maneuvre the bible says, if youâre braking prior to indicating then youâve already started your maneuvre IMO.
Roundabouts and non indication also boils my â â â â , they canât be bothered to lift one finger to move the indicator stalk then I certainly canât be bothered to stop the 44 tonne of truck thatâs suddenly in front of them.
Correct me if i`m wrong, but are indicators put on vehicles in order to warn other motoristsâŚthats what i thought, so why should one use them if theres no one else around, i find it pointless when driving home at 3am in a country lane and have to use my indicators to warn no one that i am going straight over a roundabout. I also hate those who are going straight over a roundabout, yet keep their indicator on as if theyre going in my direction, forcing me to brake when i shouldnt have toâŚi suppose the normal thing is to always stop like you have to at junctions. In America, its against the law to not stop at junctions, even if theres no one else around ( except that police car )
Roadcraft used to state (presumably still does) that you should not indicate if no-one else was there - fair enough. But what if you canât see thereâs no-one there! So I always try to indicate, just in case. Those who donât indicate properly obviously donât know or care any better.
I find it more confusing if one indicates right on the Roundabout, i stop, and he turns left off 
Non use of indicators is a pet hate especially when you have a sluggish auto box and are forced to stop at a roundabout unnecessarily. Best use for indicators is to indicate your return to the slow lane as you have just overtaken a 50mph car on the motorway but they have decided they will not be passed by a stinking LGV and then try to undertake you, indicate and miraculously they slow down again 
albion1971:
Or the ones that use hazard warning lights to park illegally or during unloading a vehicle.
I see nothing wrong with this.
midlifetrucker:
All four passed first time. Have no reason to lie and were all adi instructors. They were however all young compared to my years. If they were teaching it lots of others would. The same as not using engine braking nowadays. Scarey
Yes things seem to have changed. Re the engine braking - in a car, unless itâs icy or youâre driving down a steep hill, why bother??! Itâs far far cheaper (and easier) to replace your disks and pads than get a new clutch or gearbox. I know the old school way was to work down the gearbox in this way, thatâs all gone out of the window now.
My step daughter tells me that she was taught that indicators werenât needed at certain times if no one is around - so I think youâre wrong Albion - this is the way things are taught now.
bazza123:
midlifetrucker:
All four passed first time. Have no reason to lie and were all adi instructors. They were however all young compared to my years. If they were teaching it lots of others would. The same as not using engine braking nowadays. ScareyYes things seem to have changed. Re the engine braking - in a car, unless itâs icy or youâre driving down a steep hill, why bother??! Itâs far far cheaper (and easier) to replace your disks and pads than get a new clutch or gearbox. I know the old school way was to work down the gearbox in this way, thatâs all gone out of the window now.
My step daughter tells me that she was taught that indicators werenât needed at certain times if no one is around - so I think youâre wrong Albion - this is the way things are taught now.
I may well be in some cases bazza but certainly not in all. As an instructor I would never tell a basic car driver not to signal if there was no one around simply because they have enough to concentrate on never mind thinking about if anyone is there.
Remember they are taught to pass a test and if they do not indicate when there is nothing around they will still pass so anyone that teaches that is not wrong but the potential of it all going wrong is a lot greater if they are taught not to indicate under these circumstances. Itâs amazing how much a new driver will miss as any decent instructor will tell you.
i think we have to admit that for the average driver⌠the indicating system is just too complicated
I donât indicate just to â â â â truckers off, anyway itâs quite difficult to get them to work on a BMW 
Gembo:
You guys would really love this one.Imagine the scenario. You approach it from the direction that the google car has come from.
You stop because dead opposite is a car indicating to turn right, he got to the line before you.
You wait thinking he or she is intending to turn across your path only for them to go straight on.
Why do people indicate right to go straight across a roundabout (specifically this one- ALOT!!)?
Any other time and they donât indicate at all anyway.
0
Some donât use them so habitually, I wonder why they have indicators fitted at all.
As a former ADI, I use to teach pupils they should generally indicate unless a signal could be confusing to other road users. At this roundabout going straight on, there would have been no signal necessary as a right one would be confusing and there is not enough time to do a left after the side road. At larger roundabouts they should only signal right if using the last exit, and then signal left after going past the preceding exit. However there are times like if itâs a two exit roundabout and the 2nd exit is just following the road ahead that a right signal wouldnât be appropriate.
A lot of instrutors used a clock face as an example of when to signal right or not. Anything past 12 o clock needed a right signal and anything before did not. Works in most cases.
Has anyone ever seen someone put their hazards on to indicate theyâre going straight on? I saw a coffin dodger in a (yes youâve guessed it) Rover 45 do it in Cheltenham. Iâve also seen it done in Portsmouth too.
albion1971:
A lot of instrutors used a clock face as an example of when to signal right or not. Anything past 12 o clock needed a right signal and anything before did not. Works in most cases.
As I was taught. The point of this thread however isnât about when you should or shouldnât indicate 'cos as proâs surely we all know when itâs appropriate or not to indicate. The point is the arrogance or just plain bad driving that causes issues for other road users. â â â â you Jack, Iâm alright springs to mind.
albion1971:
A lot of instrutors used a clock face as an example of when to signal right or not. Anything past 12 o clock needed a right signal and anything before did not. Works in most cases.
used to use the clock face for which lane to use when going straight on and there were no markings.
dani1972:
albion1971:
A lot of instrutors used a clock face as an example of when to signal right or not. Anything past 12 o clock needed a right signal and anything before did not. Works in most cases.used to use the clock face for which lane to use when going straight on and there were no markings.
Yep good method.
If Iâm behind a car (usually with a fish symbol on the back) on a country road and on approach to a tight bend he or she indicates to go around it I just know that Iâm in for an "interesting " few miles stuck behind them!
the maoster:
albion1971:
A lot of instrutors used a clock face as an example of when to signal right or not. Anything past 12 o clock needed a right signal and anything before did not. Works in most cases.As I was taught. The point of this thread however isnât about when you should or shouldnât indicate 'cos as proâs surely we all know when itâs appropriate or not to indicate. The point is the arrogance or just plain bad driving that causes issues for other road users. [zb] you Jack, Iâm alright springs to mind.
Agree. Pretty much covers it.
So many folk donât know or just plain cant be bothered.