PAUL GEE's PHOTO COLLECTION (Part 1)

Seatrain F88 with a 1100/1300 going the other way.Must have been one of the biggest selling cars of the 70’s as they were everywhere when i was growing up.

Anyone know where the Harrison ERF is from ■■

Bonsall Seddon Atkinson from ■■ Looks like an Opal behind and possibly a Jag going the other way.

Jameson’s units were normally sign written so reckon thats a subby pulling for them,anyone recognise the Scania ■■

Not had a Crow motor on for a long time. Scammell Handyman.

Dont think we have had a Maple Transport motor on before,anyone know anything about them ■■

When you think how many thousands of photos we have had on here we have not had that many Transon pics, compared to other motors of the same era.
Like leyland Marathons,F88’s, DAF 2800’s,Scania 111’s,ERF B’s etc. The only reason i can think is that they were heavy and cut down the payload ?
Anyone know any other reason ■■

A.G.Nelhams Transcon from Reading.

Anyone know where the H & I Haworth ERF is from ■■

Frank Tucker ERF from Exeter.

Daz, Not had a Bob Wells Routeman on before. Probably an owner driver as on the Holes Bay road job unless anyone knows different ■■

DEANB:
Anyone know what SCT stands for and where they are from ■■

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QTR Transport MAN.

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FTS Hatswell MAN. Anyone know where they are from ■■

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H.F.Owen from Wales.

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Davie Malcolm seem to come and go fairly quickly i seem to remember ? They operated some shorter fridges with unusal axle configurations.

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S.J.Bargh Scania. Dont remember ever seeing a rough one always look smart with a great colour scheme which is nice to see.

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Carefoot MAN. Article on page 495.

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Shame about the car,but another great colour scheme on the Shirley’s Scania.Article on page 487.

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Have not seen a G&S for a long time,anyone know if they are still going ■■

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Tidy Scania of Marron from Ireland.

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G&S were from Bellshill GIST bought them out about 10 years ago

Great photos today Dean :slight_smile:

kingswinford kit:

DEANB:
Heres a classic for the Welsh chaps. Morfa Borderer.

Dont remember having a S.Trutch motor on before,anyone know anything about them ■■

Intresting photo of a GUY Big J4 with a tri axle trailer loaded with timber. I assume the operator (anyone know who it is ? ) was anticipating the weight limit
to be raised and obviously it was not until years later.

Anyone know where the Keith Dickinson Scania 140 was from ■■

Bordan haulage AEC Marshall,anyone know about them ■■ Bit ironic that the smashed up ERF has “Freight & Repair Service” written
on it. :unamused:

Roger Davies DAF from Shropshire.

Greyhound Foden.

Anyone know where the C.F.Booth Volvo is from ■■

Anyone know where the K.E.R.Transport DAF is from ■■

Collett Bros Foden.

Cheers Dean for those Morfa Sedd Atkis on the previous page those stillages were for radiators from Pressed Steel Fisher Llanelli for Longbridge and Cowley
most of my memories of Morfa were hauling into Johnsons rolling mills West Brom,and Elwells at Dudley picking up scrap back to Port Talbot ,along with Richardsons of Oldbury ,regards Keith

I think the S Trutch Atkinson was from the Mendips probably connected to the owners of this tipper seen previously on here. The Guy Big J with timber trailer I believe was owned by Ian Hampshire-a timber contractor from the Medstead/ Four Marks area of Hants.

DEANB:
Anyone know where the J & I Haworth ERF is from ■■

Funnily enough, yes! Jim Haworth was an owner driver based in Eccleston, near Chorley, and at one time ran this 8LXB-engined B-Series on traction work for Bowker. That would have been the mid-1980s. At the same time, and for a longer period, his younger brother David ran three immaculate F12s on the same work. They were from a local farming family, and David and his wife Alice had a fleet of bovines as well. I think Jim was involved in farming too. I’m racking my brain to try to remember his wife’s name - I’m sure the ‘I’ stood for an unusual name.

I can’t remember all the details now, but the ERF ended up with J Ironfield Ltd of Clayton-le-Moors, near Accrington (I think Jim had packed up haulage) and the last time I saw it was with David Kay of Oswaldtwistle in the early 1990s. He’d bought a Borderer for rallying and then sold it, followed by an A Series, and then bought this B Series ERF next. I don’t think he ever had it on the road, and I think he used it as a source of parts when converting the preserved Transcon, JAR 53N, from a rigid to a tractor. I’ve a recollection that he used the whole back end off the ERF, axle, brakes and springs, and transplanted them onto the Ford. At that time, the Gardner would have fetched very good money from Walsh & Dearden, just up the road in Darwen.

Here’s the Transcon which Dave Kay converted from a rigid chassis cab into a tractor:

1975 Ford Transcontinental JAR53N by Martin Smith, on Flickr

And here’s one of David Haworth’s Volvos:

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DEANB:
Who remembers when the library van and shop use to visit small villages and towns.

This is the ‘Travelling Library’ I grew up with Dean, a magnificent 1932 Leyland Lion:

CK4649 by Len Wright, on Flickr.

0_CK4649_D_RS034A_001 by Paul Redmond, on Flickr

I was deeply disappointed when it was replaced by this purpose-built, rattly Bedford SB:

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240 Gardner:

DEANB:
Who remembers when the library van and shop use to visit small villages and towns.

This is the ‘Travelling Library’ I grew up with Dean, a magnificent Leyland Lion of the mid-1930s:

CK4649 by Len Wright, on Flickr.

0_CK4649_D_RS034A_001 by Paul Redmond, on Flickr

I was deeply disappointed when it was replaced by this purpose-built, rattly Bedford SB:

flickr.com/photos/rpsmithbarney … F7C-P43YLK
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Now I didn’t realise that you were so old Chris ------ 1933------ :open_mouth: :wink: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

DEANB:
Intresting photo of a GUY Big J4 with a tri axle trailer loaded with timber. I assume the operator (anyone know who it is ? ) was anticipating the weight limit to be raised and obviously it was not until years later.

Being but a ‘yoof’, this is before your time, Dean! Nothing to do with weight increases, this trailer is from the era when we needed 5 axles to gross 32T legally, especially with a trailer of less than 40’. That was the time of lightweight 6x2 tractors or, for some operators, the less popular tri-axle trailers. Three axles, but no ‘Super Single’ tyres. At a guess, this is a 30’ trailer, but with plenty of weight on it.

Here are some other examples of the short trailer 32T combination of the period:

Here’s something interesting,culina have equired stobarts ,William stobart is ceo of culina

Looks like SJB Transport on the Mercedes door,anyone know where they are from ■■

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Hi Dean,

SJB were from Poole, I think it was Cutlers of Poole daughter Sylvia who ran it the initials were her married name.

Regards
Richard

DEANB:
FTS Hatswell MAN. Anyone know where they are from ■■

They are from Deeside industrial estate, Flintshire.

DEANB:
Seatrain F88 with a 1100/1300 going the other way.Must have been one of the biggest selling cars of the 70’s as they were everywhere when i was growing up.

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Anyone know where the Harrison ERF is from ■■

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Bonsall Seddon Atkinson from ■■ Looks like an Opal behind and possibly a Jag going the other way.

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Jameson’s units were normally sign written so reckon thats a subby pulling for them,anyone recognise the Scania ■■

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Not had a Crow motor on for a long time. Scammell Handyman.

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Dont think we have had a Maple Transport motor on before,anyone know anything about them ■■

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When you think how many thousands of photos we have had on here we have not had that many Transon pics, compared to other motors of the same era.
Like leyland Marathons,F88’s, DAF 2800’s,Scania 111’s,ERF B’s etc. The only reason i can think is that they were heavy and cut down the payload ?
Anyone know any other reason ■■

A.G.Nelhams Transcon from Reading.

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Anyone know where the H & I Haworth ERF is from ■■

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Frank Tucker ERF from Exeter.

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Daz, Not had a Bob Wells Routeman on before. Probably an owner driver as on the Holes Bay road job unless anyone knows different ■■

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Hi Dean, I am fairly certain that J. Howarth were from the Chorley/Eccleston area of Lancashire.
The letter J stood for Jacob. Cheers, Ray Smyth.

DEANB:
Seatrain F88 with a 1100/1300 going the other way.Must have been one of the biggest selling cars of the 70’s as they were everywhere when i was growing up.

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Anyone know where the Harrison ERF is from ■■

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Bonsall Seddon Atkinson from ■■ Looks like an Opal behind and possibly a Jag going the other way.

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Jameson’s units were normally sign written so reckon thats a subby pulling for them,anyone recognise the Scania ■■

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Not had a Crow motor on for a long time. Scammell Handyman.

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Dont think we have had a Maple Transport motor on before,anyone know anything about them ■■

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When you think how many thousands of photos we have had on here we have not had that many Transon pics, compared to other motors of the same era.
Like leyland Marathons,F88’s, DAF 2800’s,Scania 111’s,ERF B’s etc. The only reason i can think is that they were heavy and cut down the payload ?
Anyone know any other reason ■■

A.G.Nelhams Transcon from Reading.

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Anyone know where the H & I Haworth ERF is from ■■

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Frank Tucker ERF from Exeter.

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Daz, Not had a Bob Wells Routeman on before. Probably an owner driver as on the Holes Bay road job unless anyone knows different ■■

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Cheers Dean for the menition about this Scammell Routeman which belongs to Bob Wells this photo is another one which has beeen pulled out of the woodwork and not been seen before which a cracking pic you have come up trumps again Many thanks posting and sharing all these photos All the best Daz :smiley: :slight_smile:

robthedog:
“DEANB”

Have not seen a G&S for a long time,anyone know if they are still going ■■

G&S were from Bellshill GIST bought them out about 10 years ago

Thanks Rob,fella nick named Willy Bandit used to drive for them back in the late 80’s early 90’s. Cant remember his surname. :wink:

Kempston:
Great photos today Dean :slight_smile:

:wink:

Tim C:
Dont remember having a S.Trutch motor on before,anyone know anything about them ■■

I think the S Trutch Atkinson was from the Mendips probably connected to the owners of this tipper seen previously on here. The Guy Big J with timber trailer I believe was owned by Ian Hampshire-a timber contractor from the Medstead/ Four Marks area of Hants.

Well done “Tim C” on tying those two Trutch motors up. Reckon your right as an unusual name. :smiley: :wink:

Intresting comments on the Guy will have a word with Richard “MaggieD” as he did timber in that area.

240 Gardner:
“DEANB” Anyone know where the J & I Haworth ERF is from ■■

Funnily enough, yes! Jim Haworth was an owner driver based in Eccleston, near Chorley, and at one time ran this 8LXB-engined B-Series on traction work for Bowker. That would have been the mid-1980s. At the same time, and for a longer period, his younger brother David ran three immaculate F12s on the same work. They were from a local farming family, and David and his wife Alice had a fleet of bovines as well. I think Jim was involved in farming too. I’m racking my brain to try to remember his wife’s name - I’m sure the ‘I’ stood for an unusual name.

I can’t remember all the details now, but the ERF ended up with J Ironfield Ltd of Clayton-le-Moors, near Accrington (I think Jim had packed up haulage) and the last time I saw it was with David Kay of Oswaldtwistle in the early 1990s. He’d bought a Borderer for rallying and then sold it, followed by an A Series, and then bought this B Series ERF next. I don’t think he ever had it on the road, and I think he used it as a source of parts when converting the preserved Transcon, JAR 53N, from a rigid to a tractor. I’ve a recollection that he used the whole back end off the ERF, axle, brakes and springs, and transplanted them onto the Ford. At that time, the Gardner would have fetched very good money from Walsh & Dearden, just up the road in Darwen.

Here’s the Transcon which Dave Kay converted from a rigid chassis cab into a tractor:

And here’s one of David Haworth’s Volvos:

Good stuff Mr Gardner ! :laughing: Sounds like it had a few owners. Any photos of the F12’s you mentioned ?

That Transcon looks good.

240 Gardner:
“DEANB” Who remembers when the library van and shop use to visit small villages and towns.

This is the ‘Travelling Library’ I grew up with Dean, a magnificent 1932 Leyland Lion:

I was deeply disappointed when it was replaced by this purpose-built, rattly Bedford SB:

Good pics of the Leyland chap. :smiley: “rattly Bedford” :unamused: How could you Mr Gardner !!! I have a soft spot for the “Mighty Bedford’s” :laughing: :wink:

240 Gardner:
“DEANB” Intresting photo of a GUY Big J4 with a tri axle trailer loaded with timber. I assume the operator (anyone know who it is ? ) was anticipating the weight limit to be raised and obviously it was not until years later.

Being but a ‘yoof’, this is before your time, Dean! Nothing to do with weight increases, this trailer is from the era when we needed 5 axles to gross 32T legally, especially with a trailer of less than 40’. That was the time of lightweight 6x2 tractors or, for some operators, the less popular tri-axle trailers. Three axles, but no ‘Super Single’ tyres. At a guess, this is a 30’ trailer, but with plenty of weight on it.

Here are some other examples of the short trailer 32T combination of the period:

Yes before i was born Chris. :wink: However after reading your post i vaguely remember posting something about it ages ago. Am i right on thinking this lasted for
a very short period before 32 T was allowed on 4 axles ? With thousands of photos posted we have not had many trailer like that which seems odd unless i am right
in thinking it was a short time scale.We have had pics of 3 axle units but again not a huge amount compared to the normal 2 axle unit’s. :unamused:

smallcoal:
Here’s something interesting,culina have equired stobarts ,William stobart is ceo of culina

Cheers John ,i seem to remember reading that Stobarts have been in trouble for a while with huge debts,but someone will know more. :wink:

MaggieD:
Looks like SJB Transport on the Mercedes door,anyone know where they are from ■■

Hi Dean,

SJB were from Poole, I think it was Cutlers of Poole daughter Sylvia who ran it the initials were her married name.

Regards
Richard

Learn something new everyday Richard,thanks for that ! :wink:

pig pen:
“DEANB”

FTS Hatswell MAN. Anyone know where they are from ■■

They are from Deeside industrial estate, Flintshire.

Thanks for the info “pig pen” :smiley: :wink:

Ray Smyth:
“DEANB”

Anyone know where the Harrison ERF is from ■■

Hi Dean, I am fairly certain that J. Howarth were from the Chorley/Eccleston area of Lancashire.
The letter J stood for Jacob. Cheers, Ray Smyth.

Thanks for the info Ray. :wink:

ArcDaz:
“DEANB”

Daz, Not had a Bob Wells Routeman on before. Probably an owner driver as on the Holes Bay road job unless anyone knows different ■■

Cheers Dean for the menition about this Scammell Routeman which belongs to Bob Wells this photo is another one which has beeen pulled out of the woodwork and not been seen before which a cracking pic you have come up trumps again Many thanks posting and sharing all these photos All the best Daz :smiley: :slight_smile:

Thought you would like that one Daz,it was a good one. :wink:

Anyone shipping out through Poole in the 1980’s will no doubt remember seeing Trans-Oman distinctive white and blue motors.

One of there draw-bar’s was often parked up on Poole docks. I notice it has E.F.Phillips on the door who were a local haulier with a depot in
Poole and Southampton. Not sure what the tie up was with Trans-Oman and wondered if anyone knew ?

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Stobart Scania.

Cullimores Foden from Stroud.

Anyone recognise the DAF with the B on the air deflector ■■

Anyone know where the Newton Volvo is from ■■

Dont think we have had a Freightmaster motor on before,anyone know where they are based ■■

Anyone recognise the Scania ■■

Culina Logistics Mercedes.

Anyone know where the Quattro Scania is from ■■

Dont remember having a M.Lutt & Sons motor on before,anyone know where they are from ■■ Unusual surname.

Dont remember having a Antony Woodward motor on before,anyone know where they are based ■■

Morning Dean,
The Daf is on of T Bakers from Cakemore road Rowley Regis, their yard is part of the former Shell Oils depot.

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From near Dunstable Dean.

DEANB:
Stobart Scania.

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Cullimores Foden from Stroud.

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Anyone recognise the DAF with the B on the air deflector ■■

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Anyone know where the Newton Volvo is from ■■

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Dont think we have had a Freightmaster motor on before,anyone know where they are based ■■

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Anyone recognise the Scania ■■

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Culina Logistics Mercedes.

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Anyone know where the Quattro Scania is from ■■

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Dont remember having a M.Lutt & Sons motor on before,anyone know where they are from ■■ Unusual surname.

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Dont remember having a Antony Woodward motor on before,anyone know where they are based ■■

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Newton’s are from Snodland Kent and still going
Quattro are from Stratford east London and still going doing mostly railways plant

Ray Smyth:
Hi Dean, I am fairly certain that J. Howarth were from the Chorley/Eccleston area of Lancashire.
The letter J stood for Jacob. Cheers, Ray Smyth.

There was a Jacob Howarth, Ray, but they were in Makerfield Way, Ince, having moved from Blackburn. I particularly remember their Leyland Roadtrains