LOL. It says “Driver’s Vehicle”, after several paragraphs detailing excessive noise, road shocks, steering column shake, Herculean steering effort; one out of three of the pedals does not cause pain; the seat boasts that it is designed to reduce perspiration. What sort of drivers was it aimed at? Returning war heroes?
Ta for all the uploads, Dean. Merry Christmas to all TNUK contributors.
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Ah but despite all that they still sold well Anorak! 
Pete.
windrush:
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^Ah but despite all that they still sold well Anorak!
Pete.
Yes, to accountants; not drivers!
Merry Xmas!
Mrsteel:
Dean B
Hi , just been looking at the pics of JR’s motors back in the day. The one entitled ’ before the borderers’ particularly caught my eye. I drove the unit facing the camera KNY 501D when employed as a night shunter in
the Abbey steelworks at Port Talbot and my father drove it on days. It was almost new at that time.
Re: KMills memory of the Atki his father drove for JR if it was a j reg then it would not have been Borderer.
I drove a few different motors there in the 70s , one was ATX 504J which was a Silver Knight. The first Borderers were L plate. Thanks for all the good stuff you put on TN and best wishes for the new year.
Regards Allan
Hello Allan, Thats nice to see your old Atki in the pic.Bet that brought back some memories ! 
I doubt if i have any more pics
of either of those reg numbers but will have a look and pop on if i do. That pic of your old motor was in a Atkinson factory magazine.
Heres a nice line up.
5thwheel:
“DEANB”The Commer recovery has a pal just off camera on the left,a Bedford TK by the look of it Dean.
David
Yeah you cant beat a Bedford David,always had a soft spot for them. Always amazes me how many were exported and how many different
countries they sold them in.They regularly exported more trucks than any other manufacturer in this country and were the largest exporter
of truck chassis in the World some years.
Click on pages twice.
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anorak:
LOL. It says “Driver’s Vehicle”, after several paragraphs detailing excessive noise, road shocks, steering column shake, Herculean steering effort; one out of three of the pedals does not cause pain; the seat boasts that it is designed to reduce perspiration. What sort of drivers was it aimed at? Returning war heroes?Ta for all the uploads, Dean. Merry Christmas to all TNUK contributors.
Bit like the Bedford’s above there was just something about those old Atki’s “anorak”
Trucks back then all had an individual look and had character unlike all the modern stuff that looks the same !
windrush:
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^Ah but despite all that they still sold well Anorak!
Pete.
ERF-NGC-European:
“windrush”^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^Ah but despite all that they still sold well Anorak!
Pete.
Yes, to accountants; not drivers!
Merry Xmas!
Anyone recognise the Volvo F6 W---- Feeds ■■ Wallace Arnold coach behind who were a huge concern,what happened to them ■■
Tarmac Maggie.
Anyone recognise the colour scheme on the brick carrying Volvo ■■
Not had a Firmin Coates motor on for a while.
Maidments Guy Big J6 giving it large through Westbourne,Bournemouth. Think they delivered meat to butchers ?
C.A.Stevens Volvo F7. Remember seeing there motors about and they use to do bulk grain work as well as flats.
Were they based Salisbury way ■■
Allan Morris & Co Foden. Anyone recognie where that photo was taken ■■ Cant place the roundabout ■■
John James DAF.
Waddesdon Transport Seddon Atkinson 201. Anyone know where they were from ■■
All of your Christmases have come together here Daz.
The late Peter Haworth ran John Marsh and Son (Blackpool) Ltd (Blackpool Van Transport) for 40 years.
The fleet mainly consisted of Atkinson’s, later moving on to Seddon Atkinson 401’s, ERF’s and a few Mercedes 1418 4X2 tractor units.
They had quite a modern service bay in the depot at Midgeland Road Blackpool.
In 1996 after some 40 years building the firm up to what it was operating more than 38 tractor units and 100 trailers owner, the late Peter Haworth, finally decided that enough was enough and decided to voluntary liquidate John Marsh and BVT not only due to health problems but mainly due to contract customers holding back payment and the ever increasing running costs etc.
Sadly Peter Haworth passed away in May 2006 aged 79.
Photographs courtesy of Chris Haworth (Peter Haworth’s Grandson).
ERF-NGC-European:
windrush:
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^Ah but despite all that they still sold well Anorak!
Pete.
Yes, to accountants; not drivers!
Merry Xmas!
As you probably realise by now I have always supported British built trucks, I have never even sat in anything foreign apart from just one MAN unit a few years ago which didn’t impress me. To my way of thinking its a case of ‘Whoever pays the Piper calls the tune’ and I doubt that many private hauliers or large companies would unduly concern themselves about anything apart from performance figures and cost when looking for a replacement truck? Being a ‘Foden Man’ I never actually drove a ‘proper’ Atkinson but they couldn’t have been that bad, plenty of ex drivers and at least one haulier on here seemed to like them, and they obviously did the job of work well enough. Some of the earler Foden’s were not especially comfortable to drive, but like the Atkinson/ERF etc they were well built and if looked after could give at least ten - fifteen years service for their owners. I posted a pic on here of a 32 year old ERF still working, it’s owner is happy with it and presumably sees no reason to change it and there are several British trucks in this area that are 20+ years old. My last Foden was 14 years old when I left the company (it was 11 years old when they bought it) and was then sold to another haulier who got more work from it, now’t much wrong with the Brits.
Pete.
Pete.
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anorak:
0LOL. It says “Driver’s Vehicle”, after several paragraphs detailing excessive noise, road shocks, steering column shake, Herculean steering effort; one out of three of the pedals does not cause pain; the seat boasts that it is designed to reduce perspiration. What sort of drivers was it aimed at? Returning war heroes?
Ta for all the uploads, Dean. Merry Christmas to all TNUK contributors.
I got a new Borderer (220■■■■■■■■ in 1973, I drove it for 3years, and loved it. In 1976 I was allocated a new Merc 1418, it had power steering, a sleeper cab, it was warm, roomy, and quiet enough to hear the radio I fitted. After three weeks I asked to have my Atki back! The request was denied, I was stuck with Adolphs revenge, I hated it with a passion!! Power wise the whole world was uphill with the beast, on the flipside going downhill you couldn’t stop it, it had the worst brakes on any motor I’ve ever driven. To me it’s only plus side was its reliability.
Regards Kev.
kevmac47:
[zb]
anorak:
0LOL. It says “Driver’s Vehicle”, after several paragraphs detailing excessive noise, road shocks, steering column shake, Herculean steering effort; one out of three of the pedals does not cause pain; the seat boasts that it is designed to reduce perspiration. What sort of drivers was it aimed at? Returning war heroes?
Ta for all the uploads, Dean. Merry Christmas to all TNUK contributors.
I got a new Borderer (220■■■■■■■■ in 1973, I drove it for 3years, and loved it. In 1976 I was allocated a new Merc 1418, it had power steering, a sleeper cab, it was warm, roomy, and quiet enough to hear the radio I fitted. After three weeks I asked to have my Atki back! The request was denied, I was stuck with Adolphs revenge, I hated it with a passion!! Power wise the whole world was uphill with the beast, on the flipside going downhill you couldn’t stop it, it had the worst brakes on any motor I’ve ever driven. To me it’s only plus side was its reliability.
Regards Kev.
They did do a 1624, which would have been the equivalent of a Cu220 motor, I guess. Dunno whether that had brakes.
Merry Christmas Dean,
Ref: The Waddesdon Seddon Akinson , they were but not sure if they are still about ,a very small general haulage company based on the A41 between Bicester and Aylesbury at Waddesdon , i think they had about three rigids , the fleet was very small but clean .
Hi Dean, With regard to the Wallace Arnold coach company, they were taken over by Shearings,
whose new main depot was at Lockett Road, Bryn, near Wigan, and not far from M6 Junction 25.
This large depot is now Stagecoach bus garage. Shearings used to be Smiths Happiway Spencers,
and before that it was Smiths Tours, Wigan. I believe there was an earlier coach connection with
an operator, Blundell from Southport.
Cheers, Ray.
5thwheel:
DEANB:
Commer recovery truck.Probably just recovered that Marina shed on the rhs.9
L.E.R. Rogers DAF doing traction work for Interoute off Poole docks.
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Suttle DAF tipper.
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Andrews Plant ERF from Wareham.
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One for “moomooland” Seddon Atkinson of John Marsh from Blackpool.
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Esso Seddon Atkinson 401 tanker.
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Anyone recognise the DAF registration ■■
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H.W.G.Rusbridge & Son Constructor. Anyone know where they are based ■■
Hi Dean H.W.G Rusbridge & Son were a haulage contractor for ARC and they were based at the Frome depot in Sumerset i do have a few pics of this truck in my ARC collection which i brought from a friend of mine
2ARC Volvo.
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Anyone recognise the ERF tanker ■■
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The Commer recovery has a pal just off camera on the left,a Bedford TK by the look of it Dean.
David
DEANB:
Anyone recognise the Volvo F6 W---- Feeds ■■ Wallace Arnold coach behind who were a huge concern,what happened to them ■■9
Tarmac Maggie.
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Anyone recognise the colour scheme on the brick carrying Volvo ■■
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Not had a Firmin Coates motor on for a while.
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Maidments Guy Big J6 giving it large through Westbourne,Bournemouth. Think they delivered meat to butchers ?
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C.A.Stevens Volvo F7. Remember seeing there motors about and they use to do bulk grain work as well as flats.
Were they based Salisbury way ■■4
Allan Morris & Co Foden. Anyone recognie where that photo was taken ■■ Cant place the roundabout ■■
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John James DAF.
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Waddesdon Transport Seddon Atkinson 201. Anyone know where they were from ■■
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All of your Christmases have come together here Daz.
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Hi Dean your spot on here with your comment above indeed that my christmases have come together here that photo of the Don Bush Scammell Routeman tipper is definitely a corker what cracking shot Many Thanks mate for every thing you have posted up on this thread for me plus the Routeman pics you sent over to my wife for me. PS Me and Wendy are going to sort some pics out of mine and well be sending them over to you and you are more than welcome to share them on this thread All the best for now and much appreciated Dean Mark Paul Daz
windrush:
ERF-NGC-European:
windrush:
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^Ah but despite all that they still sold well Anorak!
Pete.
Yes, to accountants; not drivers!
Merry Xmas!
As you probably realise by now I have always supported British built trucks, I have never even sat in anything foreign apart from just one MAN unit a few years ago which didn’t impress me. To my way of thinking its a case of ‘Whoever pays the Piper calls the tune’ and I doubt that many private hauliers or large companies would unduly concern themselves about anything apart from performance figures and cost when looking for a replacement truck? Being a ‘Foden Man’ I never actually drove a ‘proper’ Atkinson but they couldn’t have been that bad, plenty of ex drivers and at least one haulier on here seemed to like them, and they obviously did the job of work well enough. Some of the earler Foden’s were not especially comfortable to drive, but like the Atkinson/ERF etc they were well built and if looked after could give at least ten - fifteen years service for their owners. I posted a pic on here of a 32 year old ERF still working, it’s owner is happy with it and presumably sees no reason to change it and there are several British trucks in this area that are 20+ years old. My last Foden was 14 years old when I left the company (it was 11 years old when they bought it) and was then sold to another haulier who got more work from it, now’t much wrong with the Brits.
Pete.
Pete.
Here’s a few Foden’s from your part of the world Pete.
kevmac47:
“[zb] anorak”LOL. It says “Driver’s Vehicle”, after several paragraphs detailing excessive noise, road shocks, steering column shake, Herculean steering effort; one out of three of the pedals does not cause pain; the seat boasts that it is designed to reduce perspiration. What sort of drivers was it aimed at? Returning war heroes?
Ta for all the uploads, Dean. Merry Christmas to all TNUK contributors.
I got a new Borderer (220■■■■■■■■ in 1973, I drove it for 3years, and loved it. In 1976 I was allocated a new Merc 1418, it had power steering, a sleeper cab, it was warm, roomy, and quiet enough to hear the radio I fitted. After three weeks I asked to have my Atki back! The request was denied, I was stuck with Adolphs revenge, I hated it with a passion!! Power wise the whole world was uphill with the beast, on the flipside going downhill you couldn’t stop it, it had the worst brakes on any motor I’ve ever driven. To me it’s only plus side was its reliability.
Regards Kev.
I imagine the Borderer must have been one of the biggest selling units in the early to mid seventies as they were very popular Kev.
Engine options.
[zb]
anorak:
“kevmac47”I got a new Borderer (220■■■■■■■■ in 1973, I drove it for 3years, and loved it. In 1976 I was allocated a new Merc 1418, it had power steering, a sleeper cab, it was warm, roomy, and quiet enough to hear the radio I fitted. After three weeks I asked to have my Atki back! The request was denied, I was stuck with Adolphs revenge, I hated it with a passion!! Power wise the whole world was uphill with the beast, on the flipside going downhill you couldn’t stop it, it had the worst brakes on any motor I’ve ever driven. To me it’s only plus side was its reliability.
Regards Kev.
They did do a 1624, which would have been the equivalent of a Cu220 motor, I guess. Dunno whether that had brakes.
JAKEY:
Merry Christmas Dean,Ref: The Waddesdon Seddon Akinson , they were but not sure if they are still about ,a very small general haulage company based on the A41 between Bicester and Aylesbury at Waddesdon , i think they had about three rigids , the fleet was very small but clean .
Thanks for the info “JAKEY”
Ray Smyth:
Hi Dean, With regard to the Wallace Arnold coach company, they were taken over by Shearings,
whose new main depot was at Lockett Road, Bryn, near Wigan, and not far from M6 Junction 25.
This large depot is now Stagecoach bus garage. Shearings used to be Smiths Happiway Spencers,
and before that it was Smiths Tours, Wigan. I believe there was an earlier coach connection with
an operator from Southport.Cheers, Ray.
Thanks Ray for the information. You use to see Wallace Arnold coaches everywhere they must have had a large fleet back in the day.
ArcDaz:
“DEANB”H.W.G.Rusbridge & Son Constructor. Anyone know where they are based ■■
Hi Dean H.W.G Rusbridge & Son were a haulage contractor for ARC and they were based at the Frome depot in Sumerset i do have a few pics of this truck in my ARC collection which i brought from a friend of mine
Thanks for the details about Rusbridge Daz.
ArcDaz:
“DEANB”All of your Christmases have come together here Daz.
Hi Dean your spot on here with your comment above indeed that my christmases have come together here that photo of the Don Bush Scammell Routeman tipper is definitely a corker what cracking shot Many Thanks mate for every thing you have posted up on this thread for me plus the Routeman pics you sent over to my wife for me. PS Me and Wendy are going to sort some pics out of mine and well be sending them over to you and you are more than welcome to share them on this thread All the best for now and much appreciated Dean Mark Paul Daz
Thought you might like that one Daz.
moomooland:
The late Peter Haworth ran John Marsh and Son (Blackpool) Ltd (Blackpool Van Transport) for 40 years.
The fleet mainly consisted of Atkinson’s, later moving on to Seddon Atkinson 401’s, ERF’s and a few Mercedes 1418 4X2 tractor units.Reg No MRN 872T was the first Dennison tractor unit purchased in 1979 and the first purchased in the UK.
They were also the first company in the UK to take delivery of some Dennison tractor unit’s.
Powered by a 265 Rolls Royce in line with a fuller RT90 gearbox it was completely written of in 1984 after being involved in a motorway accident.
Pictured here with driver Tommy Hussey in 1982 Dennison 4x2 tractor unit Reg No CFR 723Y was powered by a 290 Rolls Royce.
It was the only 290 of the six Dennison’s in the fleet the other five were powered by 265 Rolls Royce engines.
Parked in the depot on Midgeland Road in Blackpool the two on the left are in John Marsh and Son livery while the other, Reg No OFR 445G on the right, is in Blackpool Van Transport (BVT) livery.A photo of some of the fleet, taken in yard on Midgeland Road, Blackpool in 1988. An ariel shot of the long gone depot on Midgeland Road Blackpool taken shortly before closure.
They had quite a modern service bay in the depot at Midgeland Road Blackpool.
Owner of Blackpool Van Transport the late Peter Haworth alongside Atkinson Borderer Reg No HXG 442 at Midgeland Road Blackpool in June 1986 which was later sold on for preservation.
In 1996 after some 40 years building the firm up to what it was operating more than 38 tractor units and 100 trailers owner, the late Peter Haworth, finally decided that enough was enough and decided to voluntary liquidate John Marsh and BVT not only due to health problems but mainly due to contract customers holding back payment and the ever increasing running costs etc.
Sadly Peter Haworth passed away in May 2006 aged 79.
Photographs courtesy of Chris Haworth (Peter Haworth’s Grandson).
Fantastic post Paul. Peter built up an impressive company,looking at the photos and 38 units / 100 trailers. The aerial pic
of the yard is a cracker.
We have had a few of Peter’s motors on here.He certainly liked his Borderers.
Fleet focus.
A few Dennisons.
Posted some stuff before about Dennison trucks on page 344 for anyone intrested.
Heres some more stuff.
Click on pages twice to read.
Brochure.
Readymix DAF mixer.
Hanson DAF mixer.
Anyone know what DFS stands for ?
Anyone recognise the Volvo ■■
Anyone recognise the Volvo ■■
Dont think we have had a Axle motor on before,anyone know where they are from ■■
Anyone recognise the Volvo tanker seen here on the Dorchester to Yeovil road.
Canute Scania.
Pete Harrison Volvo from somewhere in Shropshire ■■
Anyone recognise the ERF ■■
DEANB:
Thanks for your comments Chris.
Splendid, thank you Dean
Taken back in September - nicely turned out to say the least!!! Top of the range S730
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